[_ Old Earth _] Man evolving from apes

[Archetype]

I knew this was going to happen. :crazyeyes:

This conversation is about faith, not logic, which will be shown to be worse than the lord's foolishness, or reasoning. Yes i attacked him, because the faithful christian would understand. The heathens could not possibly understand along side with that, christ "reveals his message to whom he pleases." a heathen will never be able to comprehend it, unless he his transformed to christianity, thru the grace of the holy spirit.

Thats why I told him I couldn't quote anything outside of scripture or any so-called science scholar and bible scholars/pharisees. The argument would have to remain strictly scripture. He brought in #$%^ about an ape walking on his hind legs, clearly we all agreed that the conversation would be limited to scripture or at least I assumed it. obviously the christ hating atheists/antichrists didn't want that.

One individual claimed that god never assumed human form, i defeated it by saying then who is christ? then he tried to say thatif god did assume human form, then he would be imperfect, which again is false.

Christ was flesh and blood like you and me, except that he was w/o sin, christ was incapable of sinning. although, since he is god, he can sin if he wanted to, but he always remained faithful to the lord and called on the holy spirit, he is the son of god, through and through.

scientists say we belong to the ape class. since we have opposable thumbs, no tails( at least prehensible ones like monkeys), hair, warm blood and whatnot. but in the book of genesis, it clearly states that the lord created our ancestors, adam and then eve, in his image. therefore the story of creationism holds credence in the origin of humans by a supernatural human being, the one most high and not a monkey or talking frog.

now we are not talking about mutations in the genome sequence or animals selectively breeding in the ecosystems. there is also no direct link between the ape, man and the neanderthal to suggest otherwise. clearly, man was created from the divine spirit and is given dominion over all things on earth. I sincerely don't think any self-professing christian would be believe otherwise.

with that said, I can only argue scripture. i am not concerned with or will quote #$%^ from the likes of richard dawkins et al. that man clearly worships the devil.

Last time I checked, this is a Christianity AND Science forum.

If you only want to argue scripture only, then you should probably seek out a theology forum. This forum is for discussing science's relationship with Christianity, whether it be mutually exclusive or complementary (both cases can be made).

I liked your bible references. By the way, the bible clearly contradicts itself between the first and second books of genesis. First book: man made after animals. Second book: animals made after man.

Your tone clearly demonstrates a confrontational attitude. I urge you to be a little more "Christian" about it and stop the character attacks.

First and second books of genesis? What bible are you reading? The Book of Mormon?

 

[MrVersatile48]

5 mins till bedtime

& even half asleep I can recall the deliberate hoaxes of Java Man, Piltdown Man & Nebraska Man

& Neanderthal Man was fully human

& how dare those racist evo freaks say living Africans are sub-human!

Humans are created in the image of God, from the dust of the ground into whose elements rotting corpses return

We alone make love face to face

WE alone have spiritual dimension & unrivalled intellect

Don't let any evolutionist make a monkey outa you, readers!


See learned articles, mags, books, CDs, DVDs & MP3s @:-

http://www.discovery.org/csc

http://www.creationontheweb.net

http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org


Nutty Prof Richard (Dorky) Dawkins defined biology as the study of species that appear to have been designed for a purpose - as I quoted to him on http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool lunchtime phone-in, Jan '06, between his 2 blasphemous http://www.channel4.com docu's calling for the destruction of all religion - which is the crime of inciting genocide

I challenged him, or any other evolutionist professor,to come to EU's biggest & best http://www.ChesterZoo.org.uk to point out he myriad missing links - vital transitional forms - @ every falsely supposed stage of the Darwin drivel evolutionary chain/ladder/tree

If Darwin were right, the differences between mooted adjacent steps would be as tiny as those between adjoining frames of a movie

The fact we can plainly tell, not only dog from fox from wolf, but even King Charles Spaniel from Cocker, again shows each species to be Designer-made by the Most Brilliant Brain in the Universe


'Dork' comes to Liverpool Uni for a blasphemous public 'culture' prog lecture @ 6.30 on Feb 25


All at http://www.loveyouruni.org.uk urgently urged to read "Truth, Lies & Science Education" by Dr Paul Taylor, MSc, MEd, '07 @ http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org - foreword by their brilliantly witty Scouse Prof Dr Monty White

& "The Revised & Expanded Answers Book", by Dr Jonathan Sarfati

Feb's Elim Pentecostal 'Direction' mag, p31, offers 3rd edition revised & expanded colour A4 mag 28-page format "The Design Revolution: The Delusion of Evolution"

500 copies = 69p each

1000 copies = 59p each


Demand academic freedom of speech

Protest evil forcing kids to parrot lies & boycott plain truth to get what is therefore worthless 'qualifications'

Altogether now...

123...


We don't need no thought control!


Expose on all media how it's purposely preparing the gullible for the worst global tyranny ever: the Beast/Antichrist of Revelation 13, etc

 

[VaultZero4Me]

5 mins till bedtime

& even half asleep I can recall the deliberate hoaxes of Java Man, Piltdown Man & Nebraska Man

& Neanderthal Man was fully human

& how dare those racist evo freaks say living Africans are sub-human!

Humans are created in the image of God, from the dust of the ground into whose elements rotting corpses return

We alone make love face to face

WE alone have spiritual dimension & unrivalled intellect

Don't let any evolutionist make a monkey outa you, readers!


See learned articles, mags, books, CDs, DVDs & MP3s @:-

http://www.discovery.org/csc

http://www.creationontheweb.net

http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org


Nutty Prof Richard (Dorky) Dawkins defined biology as the study of species that appear to have been designed for a purpose - as I quoted to him on http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool lunchtime phone-in, Jan '06, between his 2 blasphemous http://www.channel4.com docu's calling for the destruction of all religion - which is the crime of inciting genocide

I challenged him, or any other evolutionist professor,to come to EU's biggest & best http://www.ChesterZoo.org.uk to point out he myriad missing links - vital transitional forms - @ every falsely supposed stage of the Darwin drivel evolutionary chain/ladder/tree

If Darwin were right, the differences between mooted adjacent steps would be as tiny as those between adjoining frames of a movie

The fact we can plainly tell, not only dog from fox from wolf, but even King Charles Spaniel from Cocker, again shows each species to be Designer-made by the Most Brilliant Brain in the Universe


'Dork' comes to Liverpool Uni for a blasphemous public 'culture' prog lecture @ 6.30 on Feb 25


All at http://www.loveyouruni.org.uk urgently urged to read "Truth, Lies & Science Education" by Dr Paul Taylor, MSc, MEd, '07 @ http://www.AnswersInGenesis.org - foreword by their brilliantly witty Scouse Prof Dr Monty White

& "The Revised & Expanded Answers Book", by Dr Jonathan Sarfati

Feb's Elim Pentecostal 'Direction' mag, p31, offers 3rd edition revised & expanded colour A4 mag 28-page format "The Design Revolution: The Delusion of Evolution"

500 copies = 69p each

1000 copies = 59p each


Demand academic freedom of speech

Protest evil forcing kids to parrot lies & boycott plain truth to get what is therefore worthless 'qualifications'

Altogether now...

123...


We don't need no thought control!


Expose on all media how it's purposely preparing the gullible for the worst global tyranny ever: the Beast/Antichrist of Revelation 13, etc

I think you should have just got some rest instead of posting that garbage........

 

[Jayls5]

First and second books of genesis? What bible are you reading? The Book of Mormon?

The King James Bible.

I don't know the jargon on how you categorize the book. Chapters 1 and 2 of Genesis then.

1:
http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer ... ision=div1

2:
http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer ... ision=div1


The order of creation switches between them.

 

[freeway]

That's how humans and gorillas are similar.

And no I am not a christian, but what difference does it make?

yes you have it right,, one is a man the other is an ape.. I like to believe I come from the one on the left, but my neighbor after seeing him this summer at a swimming party and the amount of hair I would almost throw him into the group on the right... :D.. and you know, I think he would agree with me...

 

[Slevin]

yes you have it right,, one is a man the other is an ape.. I like to believe I come from the one on the left, but my neighbor after seeing him this summer at a swimming party and the amount of hair I would almost throw him into the group on the right... :D.. and you know, I think he would agree with me...

Both are apes. One is a human, the other is a gorilla, two separate species, both under a classification of primate.

 

[freeway]

yes you have it right,, one is a man the other is an ape.. I like to believe I come from the one on the left, but my neighbor after seeing him this summer at a swimming party and the amount of hair I would almost throw him into the group on the right... :D.. and you know, I think he would agree with me...

Both are apes. One is a human, the other is a gorilla, two separate species, both under a classification of primate.

hey Slevin, science put us under the heading primates.. but God put man under the 'made in His image" and apes under the beast of the fields along with cattle and everything that creeps on the dry earth..

 

[Slevin]

hey Slevin, science put us under the heading primates.. but God put man under the 'made in His image" and apes under the beast of the fields along with cattle and everything that creeps on the dry earth..

Apes don't live in fields.

Classification is based on genetic similarities, not theology. I don't see how you can think it really matters.