Mystery, Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots

[Strangelove]

and this is the deepest end times study i have ever done.i have gotten more out of this then any church service.

Seriously man. I was gonna watch a movie tonight but this thread has me glued to my seat.

Who says you have to go to church to get good fellowship??

 

[TonkaTim]

I couldn't agree more with all you've said here except; Why are you so certain of this part I made bold and underlined?

From Scripture like this:
Isaiah 2:11-14
11And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

13Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

14Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Which is what Christ quoted to the Pharisees, who misunderstood big time.

From the Daniel 12:8And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

From Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Plus the Two Witnesses are not called prophets. A witness will be giving the testimony of Truth, and confirming. No need for anything new, because it would have to have the witness of scripture to verify.

 

[TonkaTim]

AMEN TO THAT BROTHER JASON!!!

Amen.

No one in Christ should have any fear.

Amen!

 

[TonkaTim]

you are to a degree, as it plainy states in the book of hebrews that we can come boldly to the throne of grace in our time of need, and we also have recieved the spirit of adoption

do you agree that we are the sons of God, and that we have that spirit of adoption whereby we cry abba father?

if the lord is the ruler(he sits on the throne) and we are his sons. what does that mean?
we are IN the kingdom NOW. that doesnt mean that we are in the millenial reign but that we have the assurance of where we will be. some here will argue that the kingdom of God is on the earth at present, btw i dont.

i see it this way, we are in the kingdom and are his representives on a sojourn to reconcile men to God(ambassadors) arent abassadors citizens of the very country they represent? i think so.

and this is the deepest end times study i have ever done.i have gotten more out of this then any church service.

and the noahide thing gives me no fear, as i know where i am headed. HEAVEN

You are correct in that God is Sovereign & Christ is our King.

As believers we're currently His heirs & servants of His perpetual Kingdom.

We believers are still waiting on the fulfillment of the finished plan for us & this earth. The fully restored & uncorrupted perfect Kingdom of the Most High to be finalized and revealed.

 

[zone]

missquote, my bad and if one takes that to mean kingdom to isreal, ok lets play this semantics

Isreal is jacob correct in the ot? and two if we are isreal and the kingdom of god is nigh when then why would it need to be restored to us when we are in it. you do believe that then we repent upon salvation we are in kingdom
how then can we come to the throne bodly except we are the lord's subject, and if we are his subjects then are we not in his kingdom.

so then YOU have a problem as that means a contradiction.

and zone, i have noticed the links you have posted dont have it in fact tonkatim pointed me to the right place but i was asking YOU do post some links that have the mention of the death sentence and so on that you claim.

is that too hard to ask.[/QUOTE]

i could easily do it jason,
but it's important for you to do the work yourself.
you must be settled in your own mind.
it's very good for you to be skeptical.

i'll give you some time to search, when i get a moment i'll post some info.
Congress quietly passed a resolution (if it's law yet i don't know) where beheading will become an option under captial punishment.
FEMA and HS have ordered thousands of guillotines....search.

i know this is disturbing, but we must PREPARE.

please don't wait for me, you must do this yourself. The Holy Spirit will lead you into TRUTH. if this is not truth, you will know it.

zone.

here's a start
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/noahide_laws.html

 

[TonkaTim]

Seriously man. I was gonna watch a movie tonight but this thread has me glued to my seat.

Who says you have to go to church to get good fellowship??

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Amen!

Exactly what we are doing now, studying & sharing together in His name.

 

[jasoncran]

uh no i am in the military and have some cleareances and i know at present we havent any guillotines.

i'm in the national guard and have responded to natural disasters and have carried live rounds at the ready.

you all need to be careful when you subscribe to these theories as thats all that they are. remember how the apostles goofed the idea of the messiah , we will do the same with the end times.

keep in mind just cause some guy posts it on the internet , does it mean that hes right?if had a guillotine and was planning to use it, i might ensure the world wont know.

the us govt monitors these sights, i know for a fact that fb is monitired as a fhp officer told me that the dea monitors the net for drug pushers and those that buy them and some idiots post there habits openly on the net.

 

[zone]

hi jason
sorry, i'm just SUPER BUSY warring against this on another forum. the cowards and hirelings are hiding.

remember that Hitler did everything LEGALLY. he undermined the existing system, made endruns around it, and made proclamations giving himself power to implement the equivalent of US Presidential directives (ironically, Bush's directive 51 and hitler's directive 51 are identical: they use the same playbook over and over - false flags, for example). how is it that America has accepted torture as legal? 9-11 and presidential consolidation of power.

The penalty for violating any of these Noahide Laws is spelled out on page 1192 of the Encyclopedia Judaica, "... violation of any one of the seven laws subjects the Noahide to capital punishment by decapitation."

Wow, in other words, if one person steps forward to accuse a Gentile of violating any one of these seven laws, that testimony alone would be enough to decapitate the accused. A person could be put to death for the flimsy accusation of being cruel to animals, and based on the lying testimony of one person!! Notice, there is no assumption of innocence until proven guilty, nor of the prosecution having to prove their case. No, on the accusation of one person, the accused may be legally decapitated.

NOAHIDE LAWS AND THE NWO

Revelation 20:4
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

don't be afraid. we're in it together, and we are IN HIM. He sees everything.

John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

 

[jasoncran]

and i have worked with fema numerously.
zone it goes like this
you hear this things and you hear it from a guy who heard from a guy and so on. how can we verify?

that is what a conspiracy is.

when i read about the aclu and what is doing that is easily verifable via newsources and their own statements
and on them, while i do hate them as a group they have actually defended the christian a few times. i have read the articles my self

we cant just assume that's the being done just yet, what you have told me i just watch i used to prepare as in almost quit jobs. and so on.

i wised up and will wait

heres the more verifiable stuff

in america
christians are losing rights
look at mass when the rcc cant run adoption agencies anymore or the fact that a christian without compromising his faith cant be justice of the peace

i can post alot on this as its easy to find and from secular sources that are real time newssource not bloggers or youtubers

john muise used to ask me about the oil rain in florida as he heard on it youtube and i told him thats funny i didnt hear that as i lived 120 miles from the location!

 

[Thranduil]

From Scripture like this:
Isaiah 2:11-14
11And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.

13Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

14Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Which is what Christ quoted to the Pharisees, who misunderstood big time.

From the Daniel 12:8And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

From Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Plus the Two Witnesses are not called prophets. A witness will be giving the testimony of Truth, and confirming. No need for anything new, because it would have to have the witness of scripture to verify.

So are you saying the two witnesses will not be actual men?
Men to whom God chooses to reveal His mind so that they can reveal the truth?

 

[jasoncran]

zone, let me state this waterboarding isnt torture if you doubt that then google this waterboarding/ af sere school. we waterboard our own as training!

 

[TonkaTim]

uh no i am in the military and have some cleareances and i know at present we havent any guillotines.

i'm in the national guard and have responded to natural disasters and have carried live rounds at the ready.

you all need to be careful when you subscribe to these theories as thats all that they are. remember how the apostles goofed the idea of the messiah , we will do the same with the end times.

keep in mind just cause some guy posts it on the internet , does it mean that hes right?if had a guillotine and was planning to use it, i might ensure the world wont know.

the us govt monitors these sights, i know for a fact that fb is monitired as a fhp officer told me that the dea monitors the net for drug pushers and those that buy them and some idiots post there habits openly on the net.

You're abolutely correct about .gov monitoring.

This too will get much worse as we see our God-given liberties deprived.

You do realise the DHS June 7, 2009 report on extremism delcares us "domestics" because of the topic of discussion in this thread?

DHS Report on Right Wing Extremism

Read it carefully - look at it closely.

 

[zone]

uh no i am in the military and have some cleareances and i know at present we havent any guillotines.

i'm in the national guard and have responded to natural disasters and have carried live rounds at the ready.

you all need to be careful when you subscribe to these theories as thats all that they are. remember how the apostles goofed the idea of the messiah , we will do the same with the end times.

keep in mind just cause some guy posts it on the internet , does it mean that hes right?if had a guillotine and was planning to use it, i might ensure the world wont know.

the us govt monitors these sights, i know for a fact that fb is monitired as a fhp officer told me that the dea monitors the net for drug pushers and those that buy them and some idiots post there habits openly on the net.

i'm well aware who monitors the net. there's nothing i can do about it.
if they shut mne down, or come for me, so be it.
i'll go down proclaiming Christ and him Crucified.

you will have to dig, but you can find videos and testimonies of miliatry men who have stepped forward and told the truth about what HS has waiting.

that's all i'm saying on the matter.

what we need is Scripture, AND ITS IN THERE.

 

[zone]

zone, let me state this waterboarding isnt torture if you doubt that then google this waterboarding/ af sere school. we waterboard our own as training!

i refuse to get into this, i don't have time.
zone.

 

[zone]

You're abolutely correct about .gov monitoring.

This too will get much worse as we see our God-given liberties deprived.

You do realise the DHS June 7, 2009 report on extremism delcares us "domestics" because of the topic of discussion in this thread?

DHS Report on Right Wing Extremism

Read it carefully - look at it closely.

yep.
seen it.
it's all in the playbook.
but what can we do?
there will come a time for hiding, but not as long as we have milk-bottle babies who love all things Rabbi.
love zone.

 

[jasoncran]

You're abolutely correct about .gov monitoring.

This too will get much worse as we see our God-given liberties deprived.

You do realise the DHS June 7, 2009 report on extremism delcares us "domestics" because of the topic of discussion in this thread?

DHS Report on Right Wing Extremism

Read it carefully - look at it closely.

i am aware of that, that is why i say a persecution is a coming to the american christian, the best to see this stuff isnt the blogger but these guys,

aclj.org(calling out iman rauf as a liar at present)
and also breakpoint.org with chuck colson he pointed out to me that the green movement wants to control the population via birth control and also the coming idea of modern eugenics and also the euthansia.

 

[jasoncran]

i refuse to get into this, i don't have time.
zone.

i personally know a man that has been to sere school he had his finger broken for training, its purpose is to teach you how to survive and evade capture.

 

[Strangelove]

zone, let me state this waterboarding isnt torture if you doubt that then google this waterboarding/ af sere school. we waterboard our own as training!

Keep up the resistance Jason. However misguided it may be.

Without you this thread prolly would have died out a long time ago.

 

[Thranduil]

Keep up the resistance Jason. However misguided it may be.

Without you this thread prolly would have died out a long time ago.

And with him does the enemy collect information?

 

[jasoncran]

so i should take yall words for it and not be a bearean?
let me see i should give up military career over a blogger?
as i have 19 yrs in and could use that 7g a yr for my pay for doing weekend service.

are you gonna pay my mortagage when i need money? nope
so i should tell the church that has some young christians that dont know better, and what if we are wrong that we missread the entire bible and also that nwo isnt what we think it and these things dont happen either at all or not for a hundreds of years.

i was raised primarily a jw and they taught that the lord would return before the yr 2000 and were quite sure about it and even taught that us govt would ban christianity, here it is 2010.