No Pretrib Rapture

[Consecrated Life]

So if "ALL" have either been Martyred or have the Mark of the beast when Jesus comes, who is Jesus telling to be "READY" ?
Luke 12:40
"Be ye therefore READY..."

Do those with the mark of the beast need to be ready ?
Who else is left if ALL have either been martyred or taken the mark ?

" but to know the man of lawlessness must come first causing all to take the mark of this beast or die a martyr's death, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 13; 20:4"

Be ye therefore ready means that WE.....

Who is "WE"
The only people on earth when Jesus comes to earth are those who belong to the beast.
"ALL" other have been martyred .
The Martyred are already with the Lord so He cannot be talking to them ?
So who are the "WE" you are referring to ?

 

[Consecrated Life]

Consecrated Life
Again, look who’s protected when the “locusts” and Satan are let out of the pit. God protects His children, those who know the truth, those who have the key of David (the seal of God).

And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

- Revelation 9:1-4 (KJV)

Your timeline is off .
Jesus's return to earth in Judgement happens before anything else .
Prior to the events of Revelation 9: 1-4
No need for locusts or anything else at the moment that the Glorified Jesus touches down on planet earth .
At His Arrival upon earth His enemies will all be slaughtered by one Word from His mouth:
2Th 2:8
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Notice that scripture says upon Jesus return "ALL" people have either taken the mark or been martyred .
Those are the only two options for people at the time of Jesus return.

" but to know the man of lawlessness must come first causing all to take the mark of this beast or die a martyr's death, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 13; 20:

 

[eddif]

Your timeline is off .
Jesus's return to earth in Judgement happens before anything else .
Prior to the events of Revelation 9: 1-4
No need for locusts or anything else at the moment that the Glorified Jesus touches down on planet earth .
At His Arrival upon earth His enemies will all be slaughtered by one Word from His mouth:
2Th 2:8
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Notice that scripture says upon Jesus return "ALL" people have either taken the mark or been martyred .
Those are the only two options for people at the time of Jesus return.

" but to know the man of lawlessness must come first causing all to take the mark of this beast or die a martyr's death, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 13; 20:

I am a little curious as to when time ends.

I am aware time starts in day 4 of creation, and ends somewhere around the return of Jesus.

It is hard to have a timeline with no time.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[for_his_glory]

Who is "WE"
The only people on earth when Jesus comes to earth are those who belong to the beast.
"ALL" other have been martyred .
The Martyred are already with the Lord so He cannot be talking to them ?
So who are the "WE" you are referring to ?

Those who have died a martyr's death in the past and who will die a martyr's during the 3 1/2 year reign of the beast for not taking the mark of this beast are/will be laying in their grave as no one has ever ascended up to heaven, but only Jesus. John 3:13.

In Matthew 24:15-21 Jesus warned us to flee when the son of perdition takes his seat in Jerusalem claiming he is God, but even the very elect of God will be deceived if possible. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12.

There is no pretrib Rapture found in scripture as it is only taught by man's hand me down theories since the early 1800's.

 

[for_his_glory]

I am a little curious as to when time ends.

I am aware time starts in day 4 of creation, and ends somewhere around the return of Jesus.

It is hard to have a timeline with no time.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

There is no timeline like in days, months or years for when Christ will return. Now is the time to make yourself ready to be caught up to Jesus when He does return. 1 Corinthians 15:50-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

 

[Consecrated Life]

Those who have died a martyr's death in the past and who will die a martyr's during the 3 1/2 year reign of the beast for not taking the mark of this beast are/will be laying in their grave as no one has ever ascended up to heaven, but only Jesus. John 3:13.

Do you think the dead can still think about things & expect things ?

Do you think the dead can still think about things? Do you understand the word martyred?

What use would the scripture be to the saved martyred dead , laying in their graves .
They can't read ?
Nor do they need to read .
They are dead in their graves and their fates are sealed.
Jesus's warning to be ready for His unexpected coming is clearly His Word to those living on the earth .

Luke 12:40
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

 

[for_his_glory]

Luke 12:40
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

Just as Isaiah and John the Baptist spoke, "prepare ye the way of the Lord", this has been proclaimed to every generation and will continue until the return of Christ for at that time the hour has come and all that are in the graves shall hear his voice and shall come forth. They that have done good unto the resurrection of life and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. John 5:28-29

Isaiah 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

Luke 3:4 As it is written in the book of the words of Esaias the prophet, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

If we are not prepared while we are still alive then our final judgement will be that of the lake of fire, Rev 20:11-15.

 

[Consecrated Life]

If we are not prepared while we are still alive then our final judgement will be that of the lake of fire, Rev 20:11-15.

Still you are unable to show any application of Jesus's warning to be " ready " to those who have gone through the tribulation having already made a single choice out of only 2 possible fates
Either be condemned to hell for following the beast .
Or suffering a martyrs death for refusing to follow the beast:


" ....... causing all to take the mark of this beast or die a martyr's death, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 13; 20:


Either choice being an eternal fate already decided before Jesus ever comes.
Meaning the admonition of Jesus to be "ready" has absolutely no relevance to anyone on earth at the time He comes in Judgement'
Everyone's eternal unchangeable fate having already been decided by their decision to go with the beast or die a martyrs death before Jesus ever shows up , in Judgement.
What then is the only logical explanation for whom Jesus is talking to when proclaims thet should " Be Ready " ?

Luke 12:40
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

The pre-tribulation believer has a perfectly logical explanation in that this warning to be ready is being addressed to believers who may losing focus in a world that is collapsing all around them , just before the beast takes command.
To keep their eyes upon the hills, and not to fear as the world descends into violent desperation.
Be ready for He is coming .

Luk 21:28
And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

The post-tribulation believer has no logical application for Jesus's admonition to be "ready" .
As you have clearly shown you have no answer for .

 

[WalterandDebbie]

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The Church, which represents the bride of Christ, will face seeing much tribulation as it will be hard to bare seeing Gods wrath poured out on the unjust as we are sent out to preach to them before we enter into the kingdom of God (New Jerusalem). There are many false teachings that teach we are taken out of here before some seven year Great Tribulation, but there is no scripture that speaks of a seven year Great Tribulation, but only 3 1/2 years during the sounding of the seventh trumpet. Some also teach that after Rev Chapter 4 the Church is no longer here on earth. If this were the case then why did Jesus say that those who endure until the end will be saved. The end of what, the end of days or as scripture calls it that great and terrible day of the Lord when final judgment will be passed as the Sheep are separated from the goats and the goats are cast into the lake of fire with Satan, the beast and false prophets.

By studying all the scriptures below in Revelations I come to the conclusion we will see much tribulation, but not to fear what must come first before the return of Christ, but stand strong in the faith of Christ Jesus so we can endure until the coming of the Lord. We need to be His witnesses as a faithful servant until He returns. God's wrath is not for the elect of God as they are kept from it falling on them and when we see the abomination that causes desolation, Daniel Chapter 7; Matthew 24:15-22; Rev Chapter 13, we are to flee from taking its mark as we stand in a greater faith in Christ that we need not fear that which has to come first before Christ returns, Matthew 10:28, but that we need to be prepared as His Bride when He does return on the last day and destroys the beast and false prophet at His coming, Rev 19.

Act 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God as we are also His disciples.

Mat 24:13,29-31 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 3:5; 19:8 Jesus is telling us to watch for the signs of His coming and to overcome so that our names are not blotted out of the Lamb's book of life.

Rev 5:13; 6:17; 7:1-5 On earth and under the earth are those who are still here until the end of days as God's wrath begins with the opening of the seventh seal.

Rev 6:9-11 Note where John says fellow servants and brethren that should be killed as they were, which means those of the elect of God who refuse to take the mark of the beast and will die a martyr's death for their faith in Christ.

Rev 7:13-17 Which came out of great tribulation is the fullness of the Gentiles who also died a martyr's death for the sake of Christ.

Rev 8:13 Three woes are that of warning the people on earth that the last three trumpets are about to sound.

Rev 13:11-18 Here John is showing us about mystery Babylon ruling the world as a one world government. 666 represents the number of the beast and the mark is the action of the hands and thoughts of the mind as many will be deceived and accept this mark.

Rev 14:14-20 The harvest of Gods Children who are still alive at this time as they are being protected against the vial judgments that will fall on those who have rejected Christ.

Rev 16:11,15 And they repented not. The elect of God are told to watch for the return of Christ as He comes like a theif and we are to keep our garments clean and not found in shame

Rev 18:23, 24 We have now come out of great tribulation through the persecution of the revived Roman Empire and Christ is about to return for His Bride

Rev 19:7,8 We being the Bride of Christ have now made ourselves ready for His coming as those who are still alive at this time and asleep in the grave have endured until the last day when Christ returns and destroys the beast and false prophet and sends His angels out to gather the Bride up to meet Jesus in the air.

Rev 20:4-6 These verses show that we went through much annihilation and endured until the end being the last day when Christ returns.

Rev 20:12-15 The Great White Throne judgment and Jesus judgment for the works we did or did not do for him here on earth

Amen My Sister

Love, Walter

 

[WalterandDebbie]

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The Church, which represents the bride of Christ, will face seeing much tribulation as it will be hard to bare seeing Gods wrath poured out on the unjust as we are sent out to preach to them before we enter into the kingdom of God (New Jerusalem). There are many false teachings that teach we are taken out of here before some seven year Great Tribulation, but there is no scripture that speaks of a seven year Great Tribulation, but only 3 1/2 years during the sounding of the seventh trumpet. Some also teach that after Rev Chapter 4 the Church is no longer here on earth. If this were the case then why did Jesus say that those who endure until the end will be saved. The end of what, the end of days or as scripture calls it that great and terrible day of the Lord when final judgment will be passed as the Sheep are separated from the goats and the goats are cast into the lake of fire with Satan, the beast and false prophets.

By studying all the scriptures below in Revelations I come to the conclusion we will see much tribulation, but not to fear what must come first before the return of Christ, but stand strong in the faith of Christ Jesus so we can endure until the coming of the Lord. We need to be His witnesses as a faithful servant until He returns. God's wrath is not for the elect of God as they are kept from it falling on them and when we see the abomination that causes desolation, Daniel Chapter 7; Matthew 24:15-22; Rev Chapter 13, we are to flee from taking its mark as we stand in a greater faith in Christ that we need not fear that which has to come first before Christ returns, Matthew 10:28, but that we need to be prepared as His Bride when He does return on the last day and destroys the beast and false prophet at His coming, Rev 19.

Act 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God as we are also His disciples.

Mat 24:13,29-31 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 3:5; 19:8 Jesus is telling us to watch for the signs of His coming and to overcome so that our names are not blotted out of the Lamb's book of life.

Rev 5:13; 6:17; 7:1-5 On earth and under the earth are those who are still here until the end of days as God's wrath begins with the opening of the seventh seal.

Rev 6:9-11 Note where John says fellow servants and brethren that should be killed as they were, which means those of the elect of God who refuse to take the mark of the beast and will die a martyr's death for their faith in Christ.

Rev 7:13-17 Which came out of great tribulation is the fullness of the Gentiles who also died a martyr's death for the sake of Christ.

Rev 8:13 Three woes are that of warning the people on earth that the last three trumpets are about to sound.

Rev 13:11-18 Here John is showing us about mystery Babylon ruling the world as a one world government. 666 represents the number of the beast and the mark is the action of the hands and thoughts of the mind as many will be deceived and accept this mark.

Rev 14:14-20 The harvest of Gods Children who are still alive at this time as they are being protected against the vial judgments that will fall on those who have rejected Christ.

Rev 16:11,15 And they repented not. The elect of God are told to watch for the return of Christ as He comes like a theif and we are to keep our garments clean and not found in shame

Rev 18:23, 24 We have now come out of great tribulation through the persecution of the revived Roman Empire and Christ is about to return for His Bride

Rev 19:7,8 We being the Bride of Christ have now made ourselves ready for His coming as those who are still alive at this time and asleep in the grave have endured until the last day when Christ returns and destroys the beast and false prophet and sends His angels out to gather the Bride up to meet Jesus in the air.

Rev 20:4-6 These verses show that we went through much annihilation and endured until the end being the last day when Christ returns.

Rev 20:12-15 The Great White Throne judgment and Jesus judgment for the works we did or did not do for him here on earth

Hello for_his_glory, and how are you all? we are well, This is a great post I would say.

Love, Walter

 

[for_his_glory]

Still you are unable to show any application of Jesus's warning to be " ready " to those who have gone through the tribulation having already made a single choice out of only 2 possible fates
Either be condemned to hell for following the beast .
Or suffering a martyrs death for refusing to follow the beast:


" ....... causing all to take the mark of this beast or die a martyr's death, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 13; 20:


Either choice being an eternal fate already decided before Jesus ever comes.
Meaning the admonition of Jesus to be "ready" has absolutely no relevance to anyone on earth at the time He comes in Judgement'
Everyone's eternal unchangeable fate having already been decided by their decision to go with the beast or die a martyrs death before Jesus ever shows up , in Judgement.
What then is the only logical explanation for whom Jesus is talking to when proclaims thet should " Be Ready " ?

Luke 12:40
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

The pre-tribulation believer has a perfectly logical explanation in that this warning to be ready is being addressed to believers who may losing focus in a world that is collapsing all around them , just before the beast takes command.
To keep their eyes upon the hills, and not to fear as the world descends into violent desperation.
Be ready for He is coming .

Luk 21:28
And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

The post-tribulation believer has no logical application for Jesus's admonition to be "ready" .
As you have clearly shown you have no answer for .

Why do you continue to make this hard to understand when it is so simple a child could understand.

Do we make ourselves ready before or after Christ returns on the last day?

 

[for_his_glory]

Hello for_his_glory, and how are you all? we are well, This is a great post I would say.

Love, Walter

We are doing well thank you for asking and praying all is well with you and your family.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

We are doing well thank you for asking and praying all is well with you and your family.

Thank you Sister

Love, Walter And Debbie

 

[Consecrated Life]

Why do you continue to make this hard to understand when it is so simple a child could understand.

Do we make ourselves ready before or after Christ returns on the last day?

For the pre-tribulation believer the application of Jesus's admonition to be "ready for His coming" is not only clearly understandable but for those Christians seeing the world around them descend deeper into chaos and bloodshed everyday His admonition is a source of great divine power to keep us ready and not distracted by this world's fear and violence.
Living beyond all this world can aim at us thru His Word of Love and concern for us casting out all fear .
Giving us renewed Spiritual poise and readiness as the material dread of this world reaches fever pitch.
For the Post-trib believer the confusion of Christ's admonition to be "ready" for His unexpected coming is understandable as for them contains no Spiritual Power for any circumstance to make application to & has no meaning, or logical use .
Wasted Words from the Savior.
That is why you will never hear them even attempt to make an application, the spiritual force they are getting ready for is not Christ but anti-christ .

Luke 12:40
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

 

[7 Thunders]

The Tribulation beginning however is not a sign, it is an event , that is why I specifically said there can be no beginning of the Tribulation prior to the Lord gathering His elect .
Everyone would know at that point He was coming.

Greetings…. Consider what Jesus has already told us:

1 Thessalonians 1:1-4 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the LORD Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the LORD Jesus Christ. We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers; Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our LORD Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father; Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

Note: This is written to God's Elect.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

1 Thessalonians 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

…because God's Elect know the times and the seasons when the LORD comes as a “thief in the night.” This happens after the Antichrist comes.

1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Destruction comes upon THEY and THEM, not on God's Elect. It comes upon those that worship the Antichrist, because they think he is Christ. Only to those deceived does the true Christ comes as a thief in the night. The Elect are aware of the “season” and have been faithfully watching.

1 Thessalonians 5:4-5 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Mark 13:32-33 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.

No one knows the instant, but God's Elect know the season.

Daniel 12:9-10 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Revelation 3:2-3
Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt NOT WATCH, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.

Revelation 16:15
Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

Lu

 

[Consecrated Life]

"ALL" ( All means everyone by the way) on the earth at Jesus's coming in Judgement have already chosen one of only two eternal fates there are to chose from, & have already sealed their eternal fate by either taking the mark of the beast or being martyred .
Write that down.
1.) People who have taken the mark of the beast have no need to be " ready " for His "coming. Write that down.
2.) Christians that have been martyred have no need to be " ready " for His coming , Write that down.
" ....... causing all to take the mark of this beast or die a martyr's death, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 13; 20:

 

[7 Thunders]

"ALL" ( All means everyone by the way) on the earth at Jesus's coming in Judgement have already chosen one of only two eternal fates there are to chose from, & have already sealed their eternal fate by either taking the mark of the beast or being martyred .
Write that down.
1.) People who have taken the mark of the beast have no need to be " ready " for His "coming. Write that down.
2.) Christians that have been martyred have no need to be " ready " for His coming , Write that down.
" ....... causing all to take the mark of this beast or die a martyr's death, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 13; 20:

The Elect will never ever take the mark of the beast.

 

[Consecrated Life]

The Elect will never ever take the mark of the beast.

Then they have been already martyred for not taking the mark BEFORE Jesus comes in Judgement.
Therefore they have no need to be "ready" for His coming or anything else.
After you write that down, try and make application to Jesus's admonition to either the martyred or the marked to be
"ready" for His coming in Judgement to fill the earth with dead bodies by the Word of His mouth ?
You can't do it .

Luke 12:40
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

 

[for_his_glory]

For the pre-tribulation believer the application of Jesus's admonition to be "ready for His coming" is not only clearly understandable but for those Christians seeing the world around them descend deeper into chaos and bloodshed everyday His admonition is a source of great divine power to keep us ready and not distracted by this world's fear and violence.
Living beyond all this world can aim at us thru His Word of Love and concern for us casting out all fear .
Giving us renewed Spiritual poise and readiness as the material dread of this world reaches fever pitch.
For the Post-trib believer the confusion of Christ's admonition to be "ready" for His unexpected coming is understandable as for them contains no Spiritual Power for any circumstance to make application to & has no meaning, or logical use .
Wasted Words from the Savior.
That is why you will never hear them even attempt to make an application, the spiritual force they are getting ready for is not Christ but anti-christ .

Luke 12:40
Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.

John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

I'm really not sure if you understand what it means to be ready.

Jesus said, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

It has nothing and everything to do with what is happening in the world as Jesus already forewarned us in Matthew 24 of those things which must come first before His return and not to be deceived. This present heaven and earth will pass away and made new again after final judgement and then a new heaven and earth will be established for the ushering down of the New Jerusalem, 2 Peter 3:1-13; Rev 21:1. But, of the day or the hour of Christ return is only known by God and no one else. This is why everyone from the beginning of time until the day of Christ return have been told to prepare you the way of the Lord and make yourself ready for His return. Not everyone that is Christ own will die a martyr's death as we are also told to flee from the abomination that causes desolation, but even the very elect of God can be deceived if possible for lack of knowledge.


1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[Consecrated Life]

I'm really not sure if you understand what it means to be ready.

Jesus said, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

It has nothing and everything to do with what is happening in the world as Jesus already forewarned us in Matthew 24 of those things which must come first before His return and not to be deceived. This present heaven and earth will pass away and made new again after final judgement and then a new heaven and earth will be established for the ushering down of the New Jerusalem, 2 Peter 3:1-13; Rev 21:1. But, of the day or the hour of Christ return is only known by God and no one else. This is why everyone from the beginning of time until the day of Christ return have been told to prepare you the way of the Lord and make yourself ready for His return. Not everyone that is Christ own will die a martyr's death as we are also told to flee from the abomination that causes desolation, but even the very elect of God can be deceived if possible for lack of knowledge.


1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1Th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Now try and make logical application of Jesus's admonition to be "ready" for His coming in Judgement to those Marked by the beast ?
And after failing to do that try and make application of Jesus's admonition to be "ready" for His coming in judgement to the Christians already martyred prior to His coming?
You can do neither, because there is no application to the only people left alive on earth at His coming in judgement who are going to be slaughtered By the Word of His mouth at His coming.
And likewise there is no application to be "ready" for His coming in Judgement to His Martyred saints because #1 they are not subject to judgement, and #2 their eternal fate has been sealed at the time of their death.


" ....... causing all to take the mark of this beast or die a martyr's death, 2Thessalonians 2:1-12; Rev 13; 20: