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No Pretrib Rapture

A mark can mean a visible impression, identifying seal, inscription or label and also the thoughts of the mind and actions of the hand. The mark of the beast is just that which is full of political self governed power that disguises itself as a religious system full of symbolism that is very deceptive to those who have no Spiritual discernment. From its throne will be displayed many signs and wonders that will promise peace and safety during the time of great tribulation as Gods wrath will be poured out during the seven trumpets sounding. Many will take this mark believing it to be a visible sign of God, but with a great falling away from God will be deceived and separated from God forever, Rev 13, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12

The mark of the beast is to those who have no understanding of the word of God as they reject the teachings of Christ as they are lovers of self, 2 Timothy 3:1-7, and will allow themselves to be deceived in their mind as they reach out with their hands and bow down to this Luciferians false religion that promises them provision, peace and safety during the time of Gods great wrath in the end of days as they have no faith in Jesus who supplies all our needs, Philippians 4:19. To understand this mark of the beast we first have to understand what and who this beast is and its controlling deceptive power.

Galatians 6:17 From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

Revelation Chapter 13
John saw a beast (beast is often referred to as nations in scripture) rise up out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns and upon his horns ten crowns, (crowns denotes Kings) and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. The beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system of political, economic, military, environmental, educational and false religious power that Satan has always worked through.
 
Jesus is not directing this warning to Christians
It is directed to the nation Israel who up until this moment will think they have been saved from the enemies who have surrounded them for centuries by their messiah :

John 5:43
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

but who they have received as messiah is actually the anti-christ and he has established a false peace, the rebuilding of the Temple, & the daily sacrifice

The obvious clue that this warning is being directed to those of the Jewish faith is their dedication to the "Holy Place".
For the Christian there is no "place" on earth that is "Holy"
None !
And you can't name one ?
Only the Jews have a "Holy place" and it is to the House of Israel that Jesus is giving this warning.


Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
The Disciples of Christ were first called Christians during the 1st century A.D. after the resurrection of Christ. Christ gave this warning in Matthew 24:15-16 first to His disciples who were not Christians yet, but only carnal followers of Christ. We, with the Disciples, are now all the children of God by faith as we have now been baptized into Christ and have put on Christ.
The disciples of Jesus had clear understanding from Him, understanding which obviously escapes you, that the Temple no longer held a "holy place" or anything else for them .
Christ was now their All in All .
Jesus declared to them that the temple had been made "desolate" and they would never look to it as a means for their service to God

Matthew 23:38
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

My point stands, Jesus's prophetic warning for people to look to the "holy place" is directed at the future Jews who have been allowed to build a temple and resume daily sacrifice believing in a false peace establish by Satan's man whom they consider to be their Messiah .
They will look to what they believe to be a "holy place" .
The Disciples never looked back, and you will find nothing in scripture showing they held any belief in a "holy place ".
Nothing!

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
 
The disciples of Jesus had clear understanding from Him, understanding which obviously escapes you, that the Temple no longer held a "holy place" or anything else for them .
Christ was now their All in All .
Jesus declared to them that the temple had been made "desolate" and they would never look to it as a means for their service to God

Matthew 23:38
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

My point stands, Jesus's prophetic warning for people to look to the "holy place" is directed at the future Jews who have been allowed to build a temple and resume daily sacrifice believing in a false peace establish by Satan's man whom they consider to be their Messiah .
They will look to what they believe to be a "holy place" .
The Disciples never looked back, and you will find nothing in scripture showing they held any belief in a "holy place ".
Nothing!

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
Do you really think it is the Temple, that no longer exist, or is it the Holy ground that it was built on where now the Dome of the Rock sits.

BTW, I'm getting very tired of you telling me I have no understanding just because I disagree with you. If this keeps up I will report you for being in violation of the ToS 1.1 and 1.3. Let this be a warning.
 
The disciples of Jesus had clear understanding from Him, understanding which obviously escapes you, that the Temple no longer held a "holy place" or anything else for them .
Christ was now their All in All .
Jesus declared to them that the temple had been made "desolate" and they would never look to it as a means for their service to God

Matthew 23:38
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

My point stands, Jesus's prophetic warning for people to look to the "holy place" is directed at the future Jews who have been allowed to build a temple and resume daily sacrifice believing in a false peace establish by Satan's man whom they consider to be their Messiah .
They will look to what they believe to be a "holy place" .
The Disciples never looked back, and you will find nothing in scripture showing they held any belief in a "holy place ".
Nothing!

Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)

Do you really think it is the Temple, that no longer exist, or is it the Holy ground that it was built on where now the Dome of the Rock sits.
There was nothing "holy" to the disciples except Christ.
True then for the disciples , and true for all Christians today .
Nothing "holy" Except for Christ.
Your claim that Jesus's Prophetic warning regarding the "holy place" is directed to Christians rather than Jews makes no sense.
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
 
Your claim that Jesus's Prophetic warning regarding the "holy place" is directed to Christians rather than Jews makes no sense.
Everything was directed to the Jew first as there were no Christians when Jesus walked the earth. The Disciples did not understand the teachings of Christ until the day of Pentecost when they were indwelled with the Holy Spirit as then their Spiritual eyes and ears were opened to understand what Jesus taught them.

Why do you think all the Disciples hid themselves, except for John, when Jesus was crucified that day? Even Peter denied knowing Christ three times when Jesus was brought before the Counsel. Does that sound like the Disciples had any Spiritual knowledge as of yet! All of God's word was directed to the Jew first, but many rejected Jesus as the coming Messiah as they had no Spiritual understanding. Jesus provoked the Jews to jealously turning to the Gentiles to have a close relationship with God, Romans 11:11. Salvation is for everyone and Christ will return on the last day as He sends His angels out to gather all who are His own to Him
 
Everything was directed to the Jew first as there were no Christians when Jesus walked the earth. The Disciples did not understand the teachings of Christ until the day of Pentecost
They had clear understanding from Jesus that the Temple was "Desolate"
Well before the day of Pentecost.
Matthew 23:38
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Not a complicated statement to understand

Do I take it then you believe not understanding Jesus is what would cause future Christians in the tribulation to worship a "holy place" rather than worship Christ ?

Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
 
They had clear understanding from Jesus that the Temple was "Desolate"
Well before the day of Pentecost.
Matthew 23:38
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
Not a complicated statement to understand

Do I take it then you believe not understanding Jesus is what would cause future Christians in the tribulation to worship a "holy place" rather than worship Christ ?

Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
The last Temple was left desolate in 70AD well after Christ ascended up to heaven. I never said we worship a holy place as it was Jesus who calls it a holy place, Matthew 24:15, and will plant His feet on the Mt of Olives when He returns on the last day as He sends His angels out to gather all who are His own to Him.

We do not enter the Millennial Kingdom here on earth in our natural bodies, but in new glorified bodies, 1 Corinthians 15:51-54. When Christ returns in the air we are then caught up to meet Him in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord as He has made us unto our God kings and priests and we shall reign on the earth as we rule with Him over the nations as His enemies have become His footstool in the end of days, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18; Rev 5:10; Psalms 110:1-4; Hebrews 10:12, 13.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21 Jesus descends down from heaven with His army of the host (angels) of heaven as while remaining in the air He sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather His own to Him. He will destroy the beast and false prophet casting them alive into the lake of fire, Rev 19:15, 16. The remnant in Rev 19:21 are the world leaders of every nation on the earth that have followed after the beast that rules their government. The remnant will be slain by the very words Jesus speaks of their damnation as the fowls will be filled with their flesh and at that time Satan will be chained and bound so he can not interfere with the ungodly people that are still alive on earth that become the footstool of Christ. Then the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ and He shall reign for ever and the saints will begin to rule over the nations here on earth, Rev 11:15; 5:10; 20:1-3; Matthew 5:5.

Rev 20:7-10 Those that have rejected Christ that still remain on earth after the beast, false prophet and all the ruling leaders from every nation that followed after the beast are destroyed are those who are the numbering as the sand of the sea. These are the enemy of God that Satan uses to battle against the saints during the battle of Armageddon that are camped upon the breadth of the earth after he is released for a season, Psalms 2:7-10; 110; Ezekiel 36; 37; Rev 20:7-9. The saints are camped not only in Jerusalem the beloved city of God, but also throughout the breadth of the earth. It's only the 144,000 generational Jews that believe in Christ that have returned to Jerusalem. After the 1000 years are fulfilled Satan is set loosed for a season and goes out to deceive the nations as he gathers the enemies of Christ to battle against the saints as the numbering of unbelievers is like the sand of the sea. As the enemy surrounds the camp of the saints God sends fire down from heaven and destroys the enemy and Satan is cast into the lake of fire. Zechariah 14:1, 2; Luke 21:20 and Rev 16:16 mentions the battle of Armageddon when Christ and His army of angels return as Christ plants His feet on the mount of Olives for the final battle as Gog and Magog found in Ezekiel Chapter 38 is the battle of Rev 20:7-9.
 
John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The Church, which represents the bride of Christ, will face seeing much tribulation as it will be hard to bare seeing Gods wrath poured out on the unjust as we are sent out to preach to them before we enter into the kingdom of God (New Jerusalem). There are many false teachings that teach we are taken out of here before some seven year Great Tribulation, but there is no scripture that speaks of a seven year Great Tribulation, but only 3 1/2 years during the sounding of the seventh trumpet. Some also teach that after Rev Chapter 4 the Church is no longer here on earth. If this were the case then why did Jesus say that those who endure until the end will be saved. The end of what, the end of days or as scripture calls it that great and terrible day of the Lord when final judgment will be passed as the Sheep are separated from the goats and the goats are cast into the lake of fire with Satan, the beast and false prophets.

By studying all the scriptures below in Revelations I come to the conclusion we will see much tribulation, but not to fear what must come first before the return of Christ, but stand strong in the faith of Christ Jesus so we can endure until the coming of the Lord. We need to be His witnesses as a faithful servant until He returns. God's wrath is not for the elect of God as they are kept from it falling on them and when we see the abomination that causes desolation, Daniel Chapter 7; Matthew 24:15-22; Rev Chapter 13, we are to flee from taking its mark as we stand in a greater faith in Christ that we need not fear that which has to come first before Christ returns, Matthew 10:28, but that we need to be prepared as His Bride when He does return on the last day and destroys the beast and false prophet at His coming, Rev 19.

Act 14:22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God as we are also His disciples.

Mat 24:13,29-31 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 3:5; 19:8 Jesus is telling us to watch for the signs of His coming and to overcome so that our names are not blotted out of the Lamb's book of life.

Rev 5:13; 6:17; 7:1-5 On earth and under the earth are those who are still here until the end of days as God's wrath begins with the opening of the seventh seal.

Rev 6:9-11 Note where John says fellow servants and brethren that should be killed as they were, which means those of the elect of God who refuse to take the mark of the beast and will die a martyr's death for their faith in Christ.

Rev 7:13-17 Which came out of great tribulation is the fullness of the Gentiles who also died a martyr's death for the sake of Christ.

Rev 8:13 Three woes are that of warning the people on earth that the last three trumpets are about to sound.

Rev 13:11-18 Here John is showing us about mystery Babylon ruling the world as a one world government. 666 represents the number of the beast and the mark is the action of the hands and thoughts of the mind as many will be deceived and accept this mark.

Rev 14:14-20 The harvest of Gods Children who are still alive at this time as they are being protected against the vial judgments that will fall on those who have rejected Christ.

Rev 16:11,15 And they repented not. The elect of God are told to watch for the return of Christ as He comes like a theif and we are to keep our garments clean and not found in shame

Rev 18:23, 24 We have now come out of great tribulation through the persecution of the revived Roman Empire and Christ is about to return for His Bride

Rev 19:7,8 We being the Bride of Christ have now made ourselves ready for His coming as those who are still alive at this time and asleep in the grave have endured until the last day when Christ returns and destroys the beast and false prophet and sends His angels out to gather the Bride up to meet Jesus in the air.

Rev 20:4-6 These verses show that we went through much annihilation and endured until the end being the last day when Christ returns.

Rev 20:12-15 The Great White Throne judgment and Jesus judgment for the works we did or did not do for him here on earth

Celebration of the Lamb's marriage? ONLY AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON​

According to the GOD's Word, what needs to happen first? Exactly what is written in Revelation 18: 1 to 5, i.e. the Judgment of the Great Whore.

 

Celebration of the Lamb's marriage? ONLY AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON​

According to the GOD's Word, what needs to happen first? Exactly what is written in Revelation 18: 1 to 5, i.e. the Judgment of the Great Whore.

Yes, this must also come first before the return of the Lord as I believe all of this happens on the last

Celebration of the Lamb's marriage? ONLY AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON​

According to the GOD's Word, what needs to happen first? Exactly what is written in Revelation 18: 1 to 5, i.e. the Judgment of the Great Whore.

The Marriage supper of the Lamb comes on the last day when Christ returns and will be caught up to meet Him in the air as at that time judgement falls on mystery Babylon as she is finally revealed.

Rev 18:1-3
Babylon being revealed the precursor of all those Empires that are her predecessors with the last one being the revived Roman Empire whose deadly wound was healed in 1929 have always come to kill, steal and destroy those who have faith in God and His son Christ Jesus, John 10:10.

God gave warning, Isaiah 13:19; 14:22, to all those who have followed after her and have made themselves rich through her abundance. Many will become even more dependent on her during the timing of Gods great wrath during the seven trumpet judgments that will destroy much of the earth’s resources as they are made rich by the abundance that is stored up by the Jesuit militant priesthood in all nations.

Rev 18:4-8
God created every one of us as He breathed life into us making us a living soul, Genesis 2:7, but soon iniquity was found in the hearts of many as they turned away from God to follow after other gods and making themselves their own god. It repented God that He made man, but has always found favor in those who have faith in Him, Genesis 6:6-13.

God says to come out of her and repent of your sin and no longer partake of her sins so ye will not receive the same punishment she is about to be given. During this time of the seventh trumpet there is a greater tribulation of Gods final wrath on those who refuse to repent that has never been seen on such a universal scale and will never be seen again, Matthew 24:21. God is still drawing man unto himself to repent and turn back to Him before the door of Salvation is closed forever when Christ returns for His Bride.

Babylon in the OT rewarded the Israelite's with much persecution, even to death as they tried to ware out the saints of God in order to make them bow down to Babylon's dependency and their gods. The revived Roman Empire whose deadly wound came in 1798 and was healed in 1929 carries on the same destruction as her predecessor Babylon unto the end of days before the great and terrible day of the Lords return. She will receive a double portion for her wrath against the saints of God as God destroys her like He did with Sodom and Gomorrah, Daniel 7:24-26, Genesis 19:1-29, Isaiah 14:12-23.
 
Yes, this must also come first before the return of the Lord as I believe all of this happens on the last

The Marriage supper of the Lamb comes on the last day when Christ returns and will be caught up to meet Him in the air as at that time judgement falls on mystery Babylon as she is finally revealed.

Rev 18:1-3
Babylon being revealed the precursor of all those Empires that are her predecessors with the last one being the revived Roman Empire whose deadly wound was healed in 1929 have always come to kill, steal and destroy those who have faith in God and His son Christ Jesus, John 10:10.

God gave warning, Isaiah 13:19; 14:22, to all those who have followed after her and have made themselves rich through her abundance. Many will become even more dependent on her during the timing of Gods great wrath during the seven trumpet judgments that will destroy much of the earth’s resources as they are made rich by the abundance that is stored up by the Jesuit militant priesthood in all nations.

Rev 18:4-8
God created every one of us as He breathed life into us making us a living soul, Genesis 2:7, but soon iniquity was found in the hearts of many as they turned away from God to follow after other gods and making themselves their own god. It repented God that He made man, but has always found favor in those who have faith in Him, Genesis 6:6-13.

God says to come out of her and repent of your sin and no longer partake of her sins so ye will not receive the same punishment she is about to be given. During this time of the seventh trumpet there is a greater tribulation of Gods final wrath on those who refuse to repent that has never been seen on such a universal scale and will never be seen again, Matthew 24:21. God is still drawing man unto himself to repent and turn back to Him before the door of Salvation is closed forever when Christ returns for His Bride.

Babylon in the OT rewarded the Israelite's with much persecution, even to death as they tried to ware out the saints of God in order to make them bow down to Babylon's dependency and their gods. The revived Roman Empire whose deadly wound came in 1798 and was healed in 1929 carries on the same destruction as her predecessor Babylon unto the end of days before the great and terrible day of the Lords return. She will receive a double portion for her wrath against the saints of God as God destroys her like He did with Sodom and Gomorrah, Daniel 7:24-26, Genesis 19:1-29, Isaiah 14:12-23.
Revelaton 17:1-5
THE PRESENTATION OF THE WOMAN - THE GREAT WHORE
1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the Judgment of the Great Whore that sitteth upon many waters: (peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues)

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. (her religion, her idolaries and doctrines of demons)

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman(the Great Whore) sit upon a scarlet coloured Beast(Beast of sea, a Gentile Beast->sea=waters,verse 1 above), full of names of blasphemy, having 7 heads and 10 horns. (Revelation 12:3-THE DRAGON-, and his main partner- Revelation 13:1, verse 2 reveals the roots of the Beast of sea, that is the main partner of the dragon->Revelation 13:11 COMBINED LITERALLY WITH Revelation 13:2)

4 And the woman (the Great Whore)was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a NAME written, Mystery, BABYLON The Great, The MOTHER Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. (her roots ->Revelation 13:2)

JUDGMENT OF THE GREAT WHORE
Revelation 18:1-5 and 21
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, BABYLON the Great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all NATIONS have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues
.->REVELATION 18:8

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and GOD hath remembered her iniquities.

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city BABYLON (Vatican City ->Revelation 13:2, and the current Jerusalem, where will be the Throne of the dragon, Satan, it will be destroyed-Revelation 20:1-4- it will also be thrown down), and shall be found no more at all.



AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON-Revelation 19:1 to 10
ESTABLISHMENT OF GOD'S KINGDOM AND MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB


1 And AFTER these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and Glory, and Honour, and Power, unto the Lord our GOD:
2 For true and righteous are His Judgments: for He hath Judged the Great Whore(AS ABOVE DESCRIBED), which did corrupt the earth with her fornication(idolatries, doctrines of demons, satanic Eucharist, etc.), and hath avenged the blood of His servants at her hand.
3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. (Eternal punishment)


4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped GOD that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. (Revelation 11:15-18 also describe this celestial Event)
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye His servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.


6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth. (Revelation 11:15-18 combined with Luke 20:35-36 among many other biblical references)
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of JESUS: worship GOD: for the testimony of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy.
 
Revelaton 17:1-5
THE PRESENTATION OF THE WOMAN - THE GREAT WHORE
1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the Judgment of the Great Whore that sitteth upon many waters: (peoples, and nations, and multitudes of all tongues)

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. (her religion, her idolaries and doctrines of demons)

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman(the Great Whore) sit upon a scarlet coloured Beast(Beast of sea, a Gentile Beast->sea=waters,verse 1 above), full of names of blasphemy, having 7 heads and 10 horns. (Revelation 12:3-THE DRAGON-, and his main partner- Revelation 13:1, verse 2 reveals the roots of the Beast of sea, that is the main partner of the dragon->Revelation 13:11 COMBINED LITERALLY WITH Revelation 13:2)

4 And the woman (the Great Whore)was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a NAME written, Mystery, BABYLON The Great, The MOTHER Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth. (her roots ->Revelation 13:2)

JUDGMENT OF THE GREAT WHORE
Revelation 18:1-5 and 21
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, BABYLON the Great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all NATIONS have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues
.->REVELATION 18:8

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and GOD hath remembered her iniquities.

21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city BABYLON (Vatican City ->Revelation 13:2, and the current Jerusalem, where will be the Throne of the dragon, Satan, it will be destroyed-Revelation 20:1-4- it will also be thrown down), and shall be found no more at all.



AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON-Revelation 19:1 to 10
ESTABLISHMENT OF GOD'S KINGDOM AND MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB


1 And AFTER these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and Glory, and Honour, and Power, unto the Lord our GOD:
2 For true and righteous are His Judgments: for He hath Judged the Great Whore(AS ABOVE DESCRIBED), which did corrupt the earth with her fornication(idolatries, doctrines of demons, satanic Eucharist, etc.), and hath avenged the blood of His servants at her hand.
3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever. (Eternal punishment)


4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped GOD that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. (Revelation 11:15-18 also describe this celestial Event)
5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye His servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.


6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth. (Revelation 11:15-18 combined with Luke 20:35-36 among many other biblical references)
7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.
8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of JESUS: worship GOD: for the testimony of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy.
Not sure what point you are trying to make? Can you make it clearer as what this has to do with there being no pretrib.
 
Not sure what point you are trying to make? Can you make it clearer as what this has to do with there being no pretrib.
What I posted and my point is exactly what GOD will do now, even now, and from now on, in this current time, in this new millennium(Luke 20:35-36 among many other biblical references), in LITERAL fufillment of His Word as I have posted. I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, SELF-executing, understand?Jeremiah 1:12 and Numbers 17:1-12.
 
What I posted and my point is exactly what GOD will do now, even now, and from now on, in this current time, in this new millennium(Luke 20:35-36 among many other biblical references), in LITERAL fufillment of His Word as I have posted. I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, SELF-executing, understand?Jeremiah 1:12 and Numbers 17:1-12.
What does Luke 20:35-36 have to do with the topic of the OP.

If you are talking about mystery Babylon being revealed in the end of days, which I agree with, many of us have had this revealed to us already through the scriptures and studying the history of those Empires, especially the last one whose deadly wound has been healed. Her works that have always been from the beginning and throughout all four Empires are even now still working in the world until Christ returns and makes an end to these abominations by casting them into the lake of fire.
 
What does Luke 20:35-36 have to do with the topic of the OP.
If you are talking about mystery Babylon being revealed in the end of days, which I agree with,
Yes, I'm talking about of the events which will literally be fulfilled in this current time of Apocalypse.
many of us have had this revealed to us already through the scriptures and studying the history of those Empires, especially the last one whose deadly wound has been healed.
Remember, GOD calleth those things which be not as if they already were-Romans 4:17. The Beast of sea, a Gentile Beast, whose roots is from Babylon, simbolyzed first by lion-Revelation 13:2 combined with Daniel 7:4, this satanic Gentilic Beast has in this current time 7 heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy-Revelation 13:1. Only one of his 7 heads will be wounded to death from now on, but it will be healed. How? Well, soon will manifest himself the MAN Beast of the earth-Revelation 13:11-12- , who has two horns like a lamb(a false lamb, a false messiah-John 5:43-47), and he speaks as a dragon; and he exerciseth all the Power of the first Beast (the Beast of sea) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first Beast(of sea), whose deadly wound was healed. (Healed? How?) Well, the MAN Beast of the earth-the dragon-Rev.13:11-will give him his Power, and his Seat(in the holy city of Jerusalem), and great Authority-Revelation 13:2. This SATANIC event will heal the wounded head of the Beast of sea-Rev.13:3-, and all the WOLD will be wondered after the Beast.Re.13:4-And they-THE WORLD- worshipped (will worship) the false messiah -the dragon- Revelation 13:11 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:1-12, which gave(will give) power unto the Beast: and they worshipped the MAN Beast, saying, Who is like unto the Beast? who is able to make war with him? (Michael is able)

Her works that have always been from the beginning and throughout all four Empires are even now still working in the world
Right. And the END of the WORLD JESUS revealed how it will be by Matthew 24. As JESUS said, first must happen a period of sorrows-JESUS LISTED all the events of this period of sorrows-Matt.24:1-8, by the way, these events LITERALLY are in fulfillment, but as JESUS said: all these He listed must come to pass, but the END is not yet. When will be the END? 1CORINTHIANS 15:24-26 REVEALS IT.

in the world until Christ returns and makes an end to these abominations by casting them into the lake of fire.
First will come Michael-Daniel 12:1-4 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16, and with Revelation 12. JESUS also warned of this terrible time of the end-Mathew 24:15-25.

Daniel 12:9-12

9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the END.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and NONE of the wicked shall understand; but the WISE shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away(the sacrifice of JESUS has lasted around 738.600 days, and it will be taken by the false messiah, and will be established the AD) the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Yeah, day 1335, the Ineffable, Wonderful, Indescribable, Unspeakable day, the day 1.335. Hallelujaaah!!!
 
whose deadly wound was healed. (Healed? How?)
Rev 13 the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system comprised of economic, political, militant, environmental and a false religious system. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. That caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (ten horns). The wound was healed in 1929 by Mussolini.
 
Rev 13 the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system comprised of economic, political, militant, environmental and a false religious system. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. That caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (ten horns). The wound was healed in 1929 by Mussolini.
Our GOD through JESUS reveals us-Revelation 1:1, the existence of two DISTINCTS Beasts: First the Beast of sea-Revelation 13:1-10, a Gentile Beast; and Second, the Beast of the earth-Revelation 13:11-18, a Jewish Beast.

THE FIRST BEAST
Revelation 13:1
- 1 And I (John) stood on the sand of the sea(sea= Gentile peoples/nations(John was from Israel, a Jewish citzen), and saw a Beast rise up out of the sea(Gentile Beast), having 7 heads and 10 horns, and on his horns 10 crowns, and on his (7) heads the NAME of blasphemy.

The Beast of sea, whose roots or origin was/is Babylon, as is described in Revelation 13:2 symbolized by lion, bear and leopard, a Gentile Beast which rose up out from the Gentile Roman Empire, precisely in Rome, Italy, but the Roman Empire had an appendage/ appendix within it, the nation of Israel formed by 10 tribes, the seed of Abraham, as a separated nation of the Gentiles, THE SINGLE NOBLE NATION OF GOD IN THE EARTH-10 CROWNS, understand? But Israel as a nation-10 horns- was dominated by the Roman Empire, even when JESUS came, later the nation of Israel was destroyed-from year 70AD until 1948, 1878 years of severe CURSES and punishments according Deuteronomy 28:15-68. During this extense period of time, the satanic body of the religious Gentile Beast of sea developed exceedingly, his devilish religious system, a false Christianism, RULED BY THE MAN BEAST OF SEA, comprised also of economic and political system, and on his (7) heads the NAME of BLASPHEMY.
NOTE:The 10 horns -the idolater and ESOTERIC Israel-through the false lamb with two horns(both horns symbolizes the two ancient kingdoms of Israel) yeah, he is a false messiah-the dragon-Revelation 13:11 combined with John 5:43-47, yeah, Israel will be linked to the MAN Beast of sea in near future, i.e. as soon be elected the next and last Pope. Be sure, the 10 horns still is not linked to the MAN Beast of sea, but will as soon as be elected the next and last Pope.


THE SECOND BEAST
The MAN Beast of the earth

Revelation 13:11-18-> 11 And I beheld another (MAN) Beast coming up out of the earth(Israel, a Jewish Beast, think he is from the tribe of Dan-Genesis 49:17-18); and he had two horns like a lamb(a false lamb, a false messiah-John 5:43-47 combined with 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, and he spoke as a dragon. (the red dragon with 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a TAIL)

12 And he excercises all the power of the FIRST MAN Beast (of sea) before him, and causes the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the FIRST Beast(Beast of sea), whose deadly wound was healed. (was healed by the false messiah-Revelation 13:2-> the dragon gave (will give) to the Beast of sea (the next Pope to be elected) his Power, and his Throne (in Jerusalem), and great Authority.

13 And he (the false messiah, the dragon, the own Satan incarnated, the MAN of sin, son of perdition) does (will do) great wonders, so that he makes(will make) fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceives them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the (MAN) Beast(of sea); saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the Beast, which had the WOUND by a Sword (the Sword is the Word of GOD-Hebrews 4:12-13), and did live. (with the help of the dragon, the false messiah, giving his throne in Jerusalem to the MAN Beast of sea, the next and last Pope to be elected in very near future.

Be careful or else Get ready
 
Rev 12:3 the other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been cast out of heaven until the beginning of the 3 1/2 year tribulation. The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44. This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. This is also confirmed in Rev 17 as mystery Babylon is described. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8. The last kingdom which stands greater than all the others is that of a revived Roman Empire that takes control over all the ten nations who then implements a deceiving peace treaty with the Muslims in which the Dome of the Rock will be given over to the son of perdition as he reigns from the very Temple mount of God. This is the abomination Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15, 16 that we are to flee from when we see the son of perdition take his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years.

Rev 13 the beast rises up out of the sea as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. This beast is a Luciferian system comprised of economic, political, militant, environmental and a false religious system. This beast system that Satan works through gives its power to the beast out of the earth as the beast out of the earth appears as the Lamb of God, but is a false Christ being the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 with two horns. The two horns represent the Old Roman Empire that received its deadly wound back in 1798 by General Berthier who made his entrance into Rome and abolished the Roman government and established a secular one. That caused them to scatter into the other ten nations (ten horns). The wound was healed in 1929 by Mussolini.

God speaks to us in scripture of a 3 1/2 year tribulation during the time of the seventh trumpet, not a seven year tribulation, as being time, times and half time which equals 1260 days = 3 1/2 years or 3 Times as the Hebrew calendar only had 30 days for each month and this is where you get 1260 days or 3 1/2 years.
[Scripture reference]
Revelation 12:14; Daniel 7:25; Daniel 12:7
1260 days Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6
42 months Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5

No where in scripture does it mention a seven year tribulation, but only seven trumpets of God's fierce wrath as scripture says we will always have tribulations as the last time will be such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be, Matthew 24:21; Deut 4:30-31; 7:19; 29:1-6; 1 Samuel 26:24; Matthew; John 16:33; Romans 12:12; 24:21; James 1:2; 1 Peter 1:6.

Below is that of the seven remaining nations described as four beasts in Daniel 7:1-8 and the three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn, which is the Roman Empire.

The three kingdoms that were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:24 are the Heruli, Vandals, and Ostrogoths who were eliminated by the year 538 AD under the leadership of the Eastern Roman Emperor Justinian whose deadly wound came in 1798.

Seven remaining nations that still exist today:

Babylonian Empire:
(Iraq) The lion represents the winged lions that guarded the royal places of Babylon. This Empire ran from 2000BC - 1759BC

Medo - Persian Empire:
(Iran) The ribs of the bear are part of the consuming greed that devours the first empire. This Empire ran approximately from 536BC - 330BC

Grecian Empire:
(Greece, Turkey, Syria, Egypt) Four wings of the leopard described the swiftness of this empire that ran from 334-331BC. It wrestled world dominion from Medo-Persia. After the death of Alexander the Great the kingdom was divided into four minor kingdoms that continued as prominent factors in world politics until the Roman Empire gathered it back as one kingdom.

Roman Empire: (little horn, Daniel 8:9-14, 23-27)
Iron represents the stronghold this nation had. Daniel chapter 2 mentions the iron element of this empire that it to will be divided and broken as God will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed.
This Empire ran from 753BC -27BC

The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:23-25; Rev 13:3. The deadly wound came in 1798 when General Berthier of France, who made his entrance into Rome, abolished the Roman government and established a secular one and captured Pope Pius VI, who soon died in captivity in Valence, on August 29, 1799. In 1801 Napoleon made an agreement with Pope Pius II establishing Napoleon s Organic Articles of granting the Tribunal and the Corps legislative partial control of the concordat in order to help the state monitor any politically harmful Catholic or Protestant movements or activities. The wound was largely healed in 1929 when Mussolini gave the Vatican back to Pope Pius XI and established it as a country in it's own right in the Lateran Treaty.

The Roman Empire began in 753BC by Romulus who founded Rome in 27BC with Augustus Caesar becoming the first emperor of Rome in 27 BC and died in 14AD. Rome controlled over two million square miles stretching from the Rhine River to Egypt and from Britain (England) to Asia Minor which made up the Grecian Empire of Greece, Turkey, Syria and Egypt. In 146BC the Romans destroyed Corinth during the Battle of Corinth and made the Greece Empire into a province of the Roman Empire. This timeline goes from 753BC to 27BC. Nero burned Rome in 64AD and blamed the Christian community in the city causing the Roman Empires first persecution of Christians. In 1453 was the rise of the Ottoman Empire that conquered Constantinople destroying the Byzantine Empire (Eastern Roman Empire) that reigned from 330AD to 1453AD. The Roman Empire was then called the Holy Roman Empire that was a political entity beginning in 800AD - 1806AD from the time of Charlemagne (Holy Roman Emperor) who protected Pope Leo III from Adrian's supporters in Rome to Francis II, King of France. Pope Pius VII was the Pope from 1800-1823. The Roman Empire is known today as Vatican City, a city-state surrounded by Rome and Italy who has diplomatic relations with every nation around the world.

The crowns on its heads show that this dragon claims royal authority against the true King who is God of all creation as he prepares to take his seat above all that which is Gods Kingdom claiming he is God as he prepares to deceive the world through that of an existing Roman Empire, Daniel 8:9-12; Isaiah 14:12-15.

The beast rises up out of the sea, Rev 13, as the sea here is symbolic of people and nations as in a sea of humanity, Daniel Chapter 7:1-8; Revelation 17:15. The seven heads are that of the Babylonian Empire, Medo/Persian Empire, Grecian Empire and Roman Empire. The ten horns represent the nations the Roman Empire scattered to when the deadly wound was put upon them, Daniel 7:15-28.

These ten nations were the Anglo-Saxons (Germans in Great Britain), the Franks (French), Suevi (Portuguese), Visigoths (Spanish), Burgundians (Swiss), Alemanni (Germans), Lombards (Italians), Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals in northern Africa. The last three being Ostrogoths, Heruli, and the Vandals had already been destroyed by the Roman Empire before their deadly wound came in 1798.

The beast out of the earth, Rev 13:11-18, is the revived Roman Empire (mystery Babylon) which causes man to take its mark. Daniel 7:25 and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, He will think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time, 2 Thessalonians 2:13-12.
 
This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. This is also confirmed in Rev 17 as mystery Babylon is described.
Mystery Babylon the Great is depicted riding the beast from the sea, both sitting on many waters, v1., and sitting on the seven mountain-heads, v9. No mention of the dragon/Satan in chapter 17.
 
Mystery Babylon the Great is depicted riding the beast from the sea, both sitting on many waters, v1., and sitting on the seven mountain-heads, v9. No mention of the dragon/Satan in chapter 17.
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

Nowhere in that verse does it say riding the beast from the sea.
 
Rev 12:3 the other sign John saw was a great red dragon meaning Satan. Remember, this is a vision and a sign as Satan has not yet been cast out of heaven until the beginning of the 3 1/2 year tribulation.
About the content above, the Word of GOD explains very well who is the red dragon. What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?

Apocalypse (Revelation) 12:9 reveals : -And the great dragon was (will be)cast out,
that old serpent,
called the Devil,
and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole world:(as we can see, including by Internet)
he was (will be) cast out (from heaven-Ephesians 1:3-8) into the earth,
and his messengers (2Corinthians 11:13-15) were (will be) cast out with him.

The description of the dragon being great and red depicts its nature and character as being fierce and murderous, John 8:44.
I disagree . First, in John 8:44 my Lord JESUS describes Him specifically as a liar, saying to the Jews: Ye are of your father the Devil(the MAN of sin, a Jewish MAN, the son of perdition), and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning (killed Abel-Matthew 23:33-35), and abode not in the Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. It's it.

OTOH, "the dragon being great and red" as you said, it is not only because his malign nature, but he is great as is written in Luke 4:5-7:
5 The Devil taking JESUS up into an high mountain,shewed unto JESUS all the kingdoms of the world, 6 saying unto JESUS: All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. It's it.

Finally, regarding dragon be red , linking "red" as "the nature and character of the dragon being fierce and murderous. In fact it is his SPIRIT as is showed when Cain killed his bother-Genesis 4. We are talking of the Word of GOD, not of the storytellers. In fact, biblically speaking, it is the Hebrew word Edom means "red", and the Hebrew Bible relates it to the name of its founder, Esau, the elder son of the Hebrew patriarch Isaac, because he was born "red all over". As a young adult, he sold his birthright to his brother Jacob.

FURTHERMORE, in this current moment the dragon still has not 7 heads, it will be added to his satanic body only after he stealthy manifest himself as a lamb(a false lamb, a false messiah-John 5:43-47), an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist messiah, and he will speak as dragon, as is written in Revelation 13:11. In fact he is at door, he was born decades ago, and as soon as he declares himself as the messiah of the Jews-John 5:43-47, he will sit in the holy city of Jerusalem shewing himself that he is God.-2 Thessalonians 2.

Get ready
This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. This is also confirmed in Rev 17 as mystery Babylon is described. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8.
Here is the mind which hath wisdom. What does the Word of GOD say? The 7 heads are 7 mountains, on which the woman sitteth-Revelation 17:9. Now, now, it already has lasted 2000 years the woman sits on 7 mountains. Which are these mountains? Who is the woman? Do you know? Do you have the answers? Please, tell us.
The 7 heads is linked with 7 kings. Who are them? 5 are fallen, is, the seventh still will be manifest ahead.
This red dragon is depicted as having seven heads, ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. This is also confirmed in Rev 17 as mystery Babylon is described. The seven heads and ten horns refer to the original ten kingdoms of which three were subdued by the little horn of Daniel 7:8. The last kingdom which stands greater than all the others is that of a revived Roman Empire that takes control over all the ten nations who then implements a deceiving peace treaty with the Muslims in which the Dome of the Rock will be given over to the son of perdition as he reigns from the very Temple mount of God. This is the abomination Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:15, 16 that we are to flee from when we see the son of perdition take his seat in Jerusalem for 3 1/2 years.
What does the Word of GOD say? The 7 heads are 7 mountains, on which the woman sitteth-Revelation 17:9. Now, now, it already has lasted 2000 years the woman sits on 7 mountains. Which are these mountains? Who is the woman? Do you know? Do you have the answers? Please, tell us.
The 7 heads is linked with 7 kings. Who are them? 5 are fallen, is, the seventh still will be manifest ahead.

We are talking of about 2000 years of biblical events: Furthermore, the Scripture says: And there are 7 kings: five are fallen( five died, so what period of history Scripture is talking from? Who are these 5 kings), and one is (when?who is him?), and the other (the seventh) is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

I stop in this point for now.
 
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