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Old Testament Genocide

God is indeed perfect. There is no sin in Him, and for anyone to blindly carry on as if He was beneath him, then that person is guilty of idolatry, placing himself over and before holy God as someone worthy to judge Him.



Why do you judge God? Are you perfect? Preposterous.

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Then I don't think you understand what you are saying then.

The system is God's rules. Its pretty basic. That's called the Bible. That book with all the rules and doctrine in it. That gives you Jesus's Rules in order to be saved. That's a system. The rules of God are a system. And that is what we called an institution.


God's rules are the system, and the people who fallow it are the institution.

Too many people are being tripped up by religiosity and the thinking that the institutional church is the be all and end all, especially the Catholic person, who holds his institution, the RCC as his god and sole authority.

I am too careful about that kind of thinking. Yes, God does lay out for us a kind of system of belief, but I am careful not to speak in those terms, for too many people are taken astray by legalism and religiosity and 'churchianity'.

All we need do is believe in Jesus Christ, read the word of God and follow Him in it. Simple.
 
If you want to use that logic, you can't disprove the Koran or the Bhagavad-Gita either.

You can't trip up Krishna or Allah either.

Sure I can.

They don't speak to me or answer my calls, because they are dead, dead, dead.

Jesus lives.

They don't love.

Jesus loves me.
 
calm down

its not funny...

are you alright brother? :confused::sad

I am completely calm, except for having to refute people who claim other gods as equal in rank to God Almighty---that isn't fun or funny.

It is foolish and futile to claim anything in scripture is false, as for hundreds of years, men have tried to refute scripture and have never been able to do it. Scripture stands up to all scrutiny and criticism. Praise God! His truth goes marching on!
 
The Noah global flood story was not literal.

As for "perfect". . . . .

Let's say that a person is said to be "perfect and knows everything before hand and what is going on". But what if that person is unaware of something, hears rumors of bad things, and has to travel to a specific location to see if it were true? Is that person perfect?
 
I am completely calm, except for having to refute people who claim other gods as equal in rank to God Almighty---that isn't fun or funny.

It is foolish and futile to claim anything in scripture is false, as for hundreds of years, men have tried to refute scripture and have never been able to do it. Scripture stands up to all scrutiny and criticism. Praise God! His truth goes marching on!

..you're right

but you know that and they don't

deal shrewdly
 
The Noah global flood story was not literal.

Prove it. You can't.

As for "perfect". . . . .

Let's say that a person is said to be "perfect and knows everything before hand and what is going on". But what if that person is unaware of something, hears rumors of bad things, and has to travel to a specific location to see if it were true? Is that person perfect?

Every human being is imperfect.
 
..you're right

but you know that and they don't

deal shrewdly

I choose wisdom and plain truth over shrewdness. Most people who choose to argue over truth know in their hearts they are choosing error anyway. The argument is only sport.
 
I choose wisdom and plain truth over shrewdness. Most people who choose to argue over truth know in their hearts they are choosing error anyway. The argument is only sport.

are you arguing for sport...

are you being gentle and respectful


rebuke from a friend is better than the kisses of an enemy
 
are you arguing for sport...

are you being gentle and respectful


rebuke from a friend is better than the kisses of an enemy

I am truthful and conduct myself the way Jesus wants me to--contending for the faith! If you don't like it, you can go to the moderators or to God Himself.

Consider yourself rebuked, friend. The ball is in your court, sport.
 
I am truthful and conduct myself the way Jesus wants me to--contending for the faith! If you don't like it, you can go to the moderators or to God Himself.

Consider yourself rebuked, friend. The ball is in your court, sport.

what about 1st Peter

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I love you! :)
 
That's the truth.


how then should you teach them?

is that how Jesus taught sinners?


he taught the so called religious pharisees(like you and I)


rebuke from a friends in better than kisses from an enemy


maybe because I'm a new black Christian I'm wrong....
 
Sure I can.

They don't speak to me or answer my calls, because they are dead, dead, dead.
Nope, false. They are alive. The same way yours is. I can bring up countless testimonies from Hindus who claim to have been confronted by visions of Krishna and the same thing fro Muslims and Allah. They will claim your God is dead and he dosen't answer their calls try again.

Jesus lives.
In the exact same way Krishna lives. Have you actually looked into who Khrishna is?

They don't love.
False, Krishna makes a big speech about love in the Bhagavad-Gita and how his love is ever lasting, yet he is also above it. Allah also loves his people. You still didn't prove them wrong.

Jesus loves me.
And Krishna loves the Hindus, and Alah loves the Muslims.

When you make statements based on faith, you will quickly realize that all religions can use the exact same arguments against you as you can against them.

You find something one religion has and try and make a point about it, then that religion find something you don't have and use it against you. Its really fun when you get down to it.
 
The Noah flood was not literal.

Prove it. You can't.

It can most definitely be proven to have not occured, especially if it is stated to have occured 4,400 years ago.

Let's say that a person is said to be "perfect and knows everything before hand and what is going on". But what if that person is unaware of something, hears rumors of bad things, and has to travel to a specific location to see if it were true? Is that person perfect?

Every human being is imperfect.

So, in the senario above, that person could not be considered "perfect"?
 
I choose wisdom and plain truth over shrewdness. Most people who choose to argue over truth know in their hearts they are choosing error anyway. The argument is only sport.
Nope, you are making a claim you can't back up. You haven't convinced me that your position is actually truth. So since you haven't been able to convince me you are just assuming that I think you are actually right and am pretending that you are wrong for some reason that dosen't make sense at all.

The first point is that what you are saying is obserd, you can use this argument against anything.

Why would I secretly know your God is truth, but not believe it anyway? It makes no sense. Its more rational to just say, I don't believe your claims, so I won't fallow your path.

I did that God comparison thing to show you how you can use the exaxt same logic to state any God exists.
 
Nope, you are making a claim you can't back up. You haven't convinced me that your position is actually truth. So since you haven't been able to convince me you are just assuming that I think you are actually right and am pretending that you are wrong for some reason that dosen't make sense at all.

It isn't my job to convince you. I lay out the truth that the word teaches and Holy Spirit's job is to convince you, if you are hearing Him.

The first point is that what you are saying is obserd, you can use this argument against anything.

Why would I secretly know your God is truth, but not believe it anyway? It makes no sense. Its more rational to just say, I don't believe your claims, so I won't fallow your path.

I did that God comparison thing to show you how you can use the exaxt same logic to state any God exists.

Scripture teaches that people know that God exists--especially atheists. They spin their wheels in futility.

Romans 2:14-16
Even Gentiles, who do not have God’s written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. 15 They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. 16 And this is the message I proclaim—that the day is coming when God, through Christ Jesus, will judge everyone’s secret life.
 
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