Resurrections

[Sinthesis]

that doesnt negate what ashua called the feast of terah ,

this was a feast in which the moon(new) had to be observed and you know the season when it came but the exact HOUR.

when the shout was given a full moon, there had to be two witnesses and also the feast and those in it stood by waiting for that cry.

sound familiar or like what christ says.

it should.

aka Rosh Hashanah

 

[Joe67]

only those with christ that are beheaded do reign.

jason,

Truly, for it is those who experience the yielding of their bodies as a living sacrifice and have their minds transformed, that are enabled to prove what is the good and acceptable and perfect will of God, the three-fold cord of the truth as it is in Jesus.

Rom 12:1-2
12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. KJV

Joe

 

[Vic C.]

might i suggest buying a dakes bible study and reading it?

The Dake Annotated Reference BIble - The World's Best Study Bible.

Sorry Jason, I would not recommend this to anyone. Some of his teachings range from unorthodox to downright heretical. :shocked!

 

[jasoncran]

Sorry Jason, I would not recommend this to anyone. Some of his teachings range from unorthodox to downright heretical. :shocked!

i noticed when i read some of his comments elsewhere. and was going to consult my pastor
dake believes the idea oddly that the ac doenst rule the world

and also a few others things

darn 40 bucks wasted.

 

[warhorse]

i noticed when i read some of his comments elsewhere. and was going to consult my pastor
dake believes the idea oddly that the ac doenst rule the world

and also a few others things

darn 40 bucks wasted.

i dont know who Dake is, but the man of sin or AC as you are calling him will not control the whole world he will control about quarter of it, even logic indicates that for war you must have at least two sides. Note this does not mean that the rest of the world is safe...

 

[jasoncran]

i dont know who Dake is, but the man of sin or AC as you are calling him will not control the whole world he will control about quarter of it, even logic indicates that for war you must have at least two sides. Note this does not mean that the rest of the world is safe...

well no obviously

but it romes day the christians werent into the worshipping of ceaser, but that the roman power did dominate them.

 

[reba]

well no obviously

but it romes day the christians werent into the worshipping of ceaser, but that the roman power did dominate them.

Jason most the time and i can read what you post because we write alike but can you please fix the above

 

[warhorse]

well no obviously

but it romes day the christians werent into the worshipping of ceaser, but that the roman power did dominate them.

Umm confused , please refrase.

 

[TRUTH over TRADITION]

Sounds like you need to get saved. We get the same thing that the apostles got, forgiveness of sins and the indwelling Holy Spirit. If you do not come to Christ and received the indwelling Holy Spirit just like the first century church did then you will die in your sins, there is not second chance after this life. Really commit to God and ask Jesus to be your Savior and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit and you will know it.

I will not respond to the comment that would suggest that I am not saved, but I do wish to be clear on my assertion that the bold statement above is false and has no solid scriptural backing. The 12 were made promises that were specifically applicable to them on various occasions, so to say that we get exactly what they got is inaccurate.

 

[jasoncran]

Umm confused , please refrase.

well alrighty then.

in the day of the height of roman power.
the roman legions conquered what they could and subjected men.

but they didnt rule the christians as they didnt yield to the power of them as unto idolatrous worship.

the christians were killed for this.

i dont think in the days of the anti-christ it will be any different.

 

[warhorse]

well alrighty then.

in the day of the height of roman power.
the roman legions conquered what they could and subjected men.

but they didnt rule the christians as they didnt yield to the power of them as unto idolatrous worship.

the christians were killed for this.

i dont think in the days of the anti-christ it will be any different.

Well, since the death of steven, approx 47 million christians have been martered for there faith in Jesus. We live in a unique time and place where personel sacrifice for our faith is rare, and apathy has set in. I submit to you that the Days of the anti-christ, started at the cross, and end on the DOTL.

 

[jasoncran]

Well, since the death of steven, approx 47 million christians have been martered for there faith in Jesus. We live in a unique time and place where personel sacrifice for our faith is rare, and apathy has set in. I submit to you that the Days of the anti-christ, started at the cross, and end on the DOTL.

i do agree that we are in dark days and the amount is correct

but i wonder how you intepret this
1 john 2
18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

if that isnt a person or then what do you say it is?

 

[warhorse]

i do agree that we are in dark days and the amount is correct

but i wonder how you intepret this
1 john 2
18Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

if that isnt a person or then what do you say it is?

The term Anti-Christ is only used four times as i recall and usually it is plural meaning more than one. the man of sin is the phrase i would chose to use when refering to the typical AC role. Anti-Christ is defined in those statements to include all who deny that Jesus is the christ, or Son of God. That means all Jews, Muslums and frankly some who call themselves christians. And yes they have persecuted the church since then. IT was and still is the last time, 2000 years is only a long time when you have a life expectancy of 70 years. its just a blink in light of eternity.

 

[jasoncran]

The term Anti-Christ is only used four times as i recall and usually it is plural meaning more than one. the man of sin is the phrase i would chose to use when refering to the typical AC role. Anti-Christ is defined in those statements to include all who deny that Jesus is the christ, or Son of God. That means all Jews, Muslums and frankly some who call themselves christians. And yes they have persecuted the church since then. IT was and still is the last time, 2000 years is only a long time when you have a life expectancy of 70 years. its just a blink in light of eternity.

messiah is used less but we dont stop calling the lord the messiah do we

yes but that doesnt negate the anti-christ.

one can have that nature but john was saying that he was to come

if since the cross, which the yohanine epistles are way after ,was the time of the anti-christ spirit then why would john write it that way.

better to have said that we have seen the anti-christ spirit or such like.

 

[warhorse]

messiah is used less but we dont stop calling the lord the messiah do we

yes but that doesnt negate the anti-christ.

one can have that nature but john was saying that he was to come

if since the cross, which the yohanine epistles are way after ,was the time of the anti-christ spirit then why would john write it that way.

better to have said that we have seen the anti-christ spirit or such like.

Here are all of them
1 JOHN 2
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is ANTICHRIST, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 JOHN 4
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 JOHN 1
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an ANTICHRIST.
--END--

 

[jasoncran]

Here are all of them
1 JOHN 2
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that ANTICHRIST shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is ANTICHRIST, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 JOHN 4
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of ANTICHRIST, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2 JOHN 1
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an ANTICHRIST.
--END--

that merely defines what the anti-christ is.

nothing there negates my side

shall come. if it was at the cross then why would he have said is come?

 

[warhorse]

that merely defines what the anti-christ is.

nothing there negates my side

shall come. if it was at the cross then why would he have said is come?

Let me just get this straight, It sounds like you are tying the roman empire to the Man of sin / AC and insinuating that only those who are / were beheaded by them will rule with christ, based on a drake study bible. Because i am still trying to determine what your side is.

 

[jasoncran]

Let me just get this straight, It sounds like you are tying the roman empire to the Man of sin / AC and insinuating that only those who are / were beheaded by them will rule with christ, based on a drake study bible. Because i am still trying to determine what your side is.

not at all. making a comparison to what it could be.

and not taking dake side till i find a less contraversial commentary. and reaserching

 

[warhorse]

not at all. making a comparison to what it could be.

and not taking dake side till i find a less contraversial commentary. and reaserching

OK That seems wise, i am confused on your position, and i suspect you are too. additionally i dont wont to argue just for the sake of argument. I was simply trying to point out that the term AC is often used in referance to a single person known Biblicly as the man of sin. But Biblicly the Term AC is a Broad definition used to define peaple based on there beliefs. And they have been present since the time of the cross.

 

[jasoncran]

OK That seems wise, i am confused on your position, and i suspect you are too. additionally i dont wont to argue just for the sake of argument. I was simply trying to point out that the term AC is often used in referance to a single person known Biblicly as the man of sin. But Biblicly the Term AC is a Broad definition used to define peaple based on there beliefs. And they have been present since the time of the cross.

not really. i do believe in the ac, and the seven yr trib before buying the dake study bible. i was wanting to back that up better on my own and to see what the bible does support not some cherry picked verses that support a doctrine.