Revelation 1:1-3 Seldom examined verses

[jasonc]

Correct God does Not make the laws in Jerusalem. Those who deny Christ do.

After rejecting Christ, the annointed king of Israel, chosen by God. The people of Israel have appointed thier own head of state to rule over them.

That Really works ,let's call a theocracy state of xyz church a good thing. If by threat of death worked ,explain the cross?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

That Really works ,let's call a theocracy state of xyz church a good thing. If by threat of death worked ,explain the cross?

I don't understand you question and I'm unfamiliar with the xyz church.

Amos 5:26 NIV: You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols, the star of your god -- which you made for yourselves.

1 Samuel 8:17 - Samuel's Warning

He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

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[jasonc]

I don't understand you question and I'm unfamiliar with the xyz church.

Amos 5:26 NIV: You have lifted up the shrine of your king, the pedestal of your idols, the star of your god -- which you made for yourselves.

1 Samuel 8:17 - Samuel's Warning

He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

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I guess America should never had the bill of rights,we should execute fornicators ,and gays and adulterers . idolatrous persons as well.

You raised against jlb on his world wide beast viiew with Rome being the biggest ,and yet now push a beast here who conquered none, influences at best the u.s. and defends itself from the Arabs .

A tiny nation with less of population of Jews,Arabs then the south Florida or close and land mass less then my county .

Israel Population 1950-2025

Chart and table of Israel population from 1950 to 2025. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.

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South Florida - Wikipedia

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With a square mileage to new Jersey .

 

[jasonc]

Of that area in my state ,isreal has a consulate and the second largest concentration of Jews in Miami beach .where my dad lived until they moved to Coral gables .

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I guess America should never had the bill of rights,we should execute fornicators ,and gays and adulterers . idolatrous persons as well.

You raised against jlb on his world wide beast viiew with Rome being the biggest ,and yet now push a beast here who conquered none, influences at best the u.s. and defends itself from the Arabs .

A tiny nation with less of population of Jews,Arabs then the south Florida or close and land mass less then my county .

Israel Population 1950-2025

Chart and table of Israel population from 1950 to 2025. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.

www.macrotrends.net

South Florida - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

With a square mileage to new Jersey .

This has nothing to do with size. But if you want to bring size into the discussion we will.
It's described as being little in scripture. Littler than those around it yet appears to be stouter.

Daniel 7:20 I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and the other horn that came up, before which three of them fell--the horn whose appearance was more imposing than the others, with eyes and with a mouth that spoke words of arrogance.

Yes, Israel is described as being little and looks stouter than its fellows.
And little Israel kicked three of thier butts in 67 when it secured the seven hilled city of Jerusalem.

What this is about is Israel rejecting God so they could have a king like the gentiles.

1 Samuel 8:7 - Israel Demands a King

And the LORD said to Samuel, Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you. For it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected Me as their king.

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So they rejected God as he said they would a d Insted have chosen a king like the gentiles have.
I don't remember God ever telling any other nation that he would be thier king but he did to Israel and they rejected him so they could have what they have now.
Just keep in mind what's going to happen to Israel after thier king they have chosen makes them his slaves.

1 Samuel 8:17 - Samuel's Warning

He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.

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1 Samuel 8:18 - Samuel's Warning

When that day comes, you will beg for relief from the king you have chosen, but the LORD will not answer you on that day.

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1 Samuel 8:19 Nevertheless, the people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We must have a king over us.

1 Samuel 8:20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to judge us, to go out before us, and to fight our battles."

So what they got is a beast that resembles many beasts.
Well, they got what they wanted, but the day will soon come when they cry out and the Lord isn't going to answer like he said he wouldn't.

 

[JLB]

Yes, Israel is described as being little and looks stouter than its fellows.
And little Israel kicked three of thier butts in 67 when it secured the seven hilled city of Jerusalem.

The city on seven hills refers to Rome.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

The city on seven hills refers to Rome.

The city on seven hills refers to Jerusalem.

Matthew 23:37 - Lament over Jerusalem

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!

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[Shilohsfoal]

The city on seven hills refers to Rome.

If the prostitute is Rome, then why do the nations attack Jerusalem and not Rome?

Revelation 17:16 KJV: And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

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Zechariah 14:2 - The Destroyers of Jerusalem Destroyed

For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.

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They don't attack Rome. The ten horns situated around Israel hate Israel and will attack Jerusalem,, not Rome.

 

[JLB]

The city on seven hills refers to Jerusalem.

Matthew 23:37 - Lament over Jerusalem

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!

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“The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. Revelation 17:12


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[Shilohsfoal]

“The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. Revelation 17:12


JLB

That doesn't answer the question.

 

[JLB]

Zechariah 14:2 For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city
They don't attack Rome. The ten horns situated around Israel hate Israel and will attack Jerusalem,, not Rome

If the prostitute is Jerusalem then why does the Lord destroy those nations that He Himself gathered there?


Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:1-3


And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem:
Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet,
Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets,
And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
Zechariah 14:12




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[JLB]

That doesn't answer the question.

It not only answers the question, it ends the discussion…

 

[Shilohsfoal]

It not only answers the question, it ends the discussion…

In other words you can't answer the question. Lol

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Matthew 23:35 - Woes to Scribes and Pharisees

And so upon you will come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.

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Revelation 18:24 - The Doom of Babylon

And there was found in her the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who had been slain on the earth.

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[jasonc]

That would also mean in America.
Is the church

 

[Shilohsfoal]

If the prostitute is Jerusalem then why does the Lord destroy those nations that He Himself gathered there?


Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:1-3


And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem:
Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet,
Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets,
And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
Zechariah 14:12




JLB

Because they fight against the lamb for possession of the promised land.

Revelation 17:14 - The Victory of the Lamb

They will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones.

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Same as David said in psalms.

Psalm 83:5 - Do Not Be Still, O God

For with one mind they plot together, they form an alliance against You--

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I have no problem answering a question. You can't though.

 

[JLB]

If the prostitute is Rome, then why do the nations attack Jerusalem and not Rome?

Revelation 17:16 KJV: And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

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Zechariah 14:2 - The Destroyers of Jerusalem Destroyed

For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.

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They don't attack Rome. The ten horns situated around Israel hate Israel and will attack Jerusalem,, not Rome.

The prosititute sits on seven hills.

The prostitute is not the beast.

The seven hills are the mountains on which Rome sits.

Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. Revelation 17:9


The ten horns of the beast are 10 kings.



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[JLB]

In other words you can answer the question. Lol

Well since we see that the Lord Himself fights against those nations who attacked Jerusalem and destroys them, your question is indeed answered and your theory is proven invalid.


And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem:
Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet,
Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets,
And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
Zechariah 14:12

Jerusalem is certainly not the prostitute who sits on seven mountains.


And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. Revelation 17:16


Those who come against Jerusalem are they themselves burned, unlike the harlot.





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[JLB]

Because they fight against the lamb for possession of the promised land.

Revelation 17:14 - The Victory of the Lamb

They will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones.

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Same as David said in psalms.

Psalm 83:5 - Do Not Be Still, O God

For with one mind they plot together, they form an alliance against You--

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I have no problem answering a question. You can't though.

Sorry but the Lord is the one who gathered the nations against Jerusalem, they didn’t come because they wanted land. LOL


Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:1-2


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So far Bible Hub links are given your “answers”.




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[Shilohsfoal]

The prosititute sits on seven hills.

The prostitute is not the beast.

The seven hills are the mountains on which Rome sits.

Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. Revelation 17:9


The ten horns of the beast are 10 kings.



JLB

The beast is a kingdom.

Daniel 7:23 This is what he said: 'The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on the earth, different from all the other kingdoms, and it will devour the whole earth, trample it down, and crush it.

The seven heads are the seven hills on which Jerusalem sits. The ten horns hate the prostitute.

Revelation 17:16 KJV: And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

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That's why they attack Jerusalem and not Rome.

Zechariah 14:2 - The Destroyers of Jerusalem Destroyed

For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.

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Three and a half years of torment can cause some very hateful feelings toward Jerusalem. I understand where they are coming from.

Revelation 11:10 - The Witnesses Killed and Raised

And those who dwell on the earth will gloat over them, and will celebrate and send one another gifts, because these two prophets had tormented them.

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Yea they don't care about Rome. They hate Jerusalem and are going to rape the women and kill the men and babies. They won't even consider hurting Rome.