jasonc
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That Really works ,let's call a theocracy state of xyz church a good thing. If by threat of death worked ,explain the cross?
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Revelation 1:1-3 Seldom examined verses
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Shilohsfoal
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I don't understand you question and I'm unfamiliar with the xyz church.
1 Samuel 8:17 - Samuel's Warning
He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.
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jasonc
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I guess America should never had the bill of rights,we should execute fornicators ,and gays and adulterers . idolatrous persons as well.I don't understand you question and I'm unfamiliar with the xyz church.
1 Samuel 8:17 - Samuel's Warning
He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.biblehub.com
You raised against jlb on his world wide beast viiew with Rome being the biggest ,and yet now push a beast here who conquered none, influences at best the u.s. and defends itself from the Arabs .
A tiny nation with less of population of Jews,Arabs then the south Florida or close and land mass less then my county .
Israel Population 1950-2023
Chart and table of Israel population from 1950 to 2023. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.
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South Florida - Wikipedia
With a square mileage to new Jersey .
Shilohsfoal
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This has nothing to do with size. But if you want to bring size into the discussion we will.I guess America should never had the bill of rights,we should execute fornicators ,and gays and adulterers . idolatrous persons as well.
You raised against jlb on his world wide beast viiew with Rome being the biggest ,and yet now push a beast here who conquered none, influences at best the u.s. and defends itself from the Arabs .
A tiny nation with less of population of Jews,Arabs then the south Florida or close and land mass less then my county .
Israel Population 1950-2023
Chart and table of Israel population from 1950 to 2023. United Nations projections are also included through the year 2100.
South Florida - Wikipedia
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With a square mileage to new Jersey .
It's described as being little in scripture. Littler than those around it yet appears to be stouter.
Yes, Israel is described as being little and looks stouter than its fellows.
And little Israel kicked three of thier butts in 67 when it secured the seven hilled city of Jerusalem.
What this is about is Israel rejecting God so they could have a king like the gentiles.
1 Samuel 8:7 - Israel Demands a King
And the LORD said to Samuel, Listen to the voice of the people in all that they say to you. For it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected Me as their king.
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So they rejected God as he said they would a d Insted have chosen a king like the gentiles have.
I don't remember God ever telling any other nation that he would be thier king but he did to Israel and they rejected him so they could have what they have now.
Just keep in mind what's going to happen to Israel after thier king they have chosen makes them his slaves.
1 Samuel 8:17 - Samuel's Warning
He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves.
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1 Samuel 8:18 - Samuel's Warning
When that day comes, you will beg for relief from the king you have chosen, but the LORD will not answer you on that day.
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So what they got is a beast that resembles many beasts.
Well, they got what they wanted, but the day will soon come when they cry out and the Lord isn't going to answer like he said he wouldn't.
The city on seven hills refers to Rome.
Shilohsfoal
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The city on seven hills refers to Jerusalem.
Matthew 23:37 - Lament over Jerusalem
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!
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Shilohsfoal
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If the prostitute is Rome, then why do the nations attack Jerusalem and not Rome?
Zechariah 14:2 - The Destroyers of Jerusalem Destroyed
For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.
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They don't attack Rome. The ten horns situated around Israel hate Israel and will attack Jerusalem,, not Rome.
The city on seven hills refers to Jerusalem.
Matthew 23:37 - Lament over Jerusalem
O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those sent to her, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were unwilling!biblehub.com
“The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. Revelation 17:12
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Shilohsfoal
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If the prostitute is Jerusalem then why does the Lord destroy those nations that He Himself gathered there?
Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:1-3
And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem:
Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet,
Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets,
And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
Zechariah 14:12
JLB
It not only answers the question, it ends the discussion…
Shilohsfoal
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Shilohsfoal
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Matthew 23:35 - Woes to Scribes and Pharisees
And so upon you will come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
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Revelation 18:24 - The Doom of Babylon
And there was found in her the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who had been slain on the earth.
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Shilohsfoal
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Because they fight against the lamb for possession of the promised land.
Revelation 17:14 - The Victory of the Lamb
They will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones.
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Same as David said in psalms.
Psalm 83:5 - Do Not Be Still, O God
For with one mind they plot together, they form an alliance against You--
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I have no problem answering a question. You can't though.
If the prostitute is Rome, then why do the nations attack Jerusalem and not Rome?
Zechariah 14:2 - The Destroyers of Jerusalem Destroyed
For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.biblehub.com
They don't attack Rome. The ten horns situated around Israel hate Israel and will attack Jerusalem,, not Rome.
The prosititute sits on seven hills.
The prostitute is not the beast.
The seven hills are the mountains on which Rome sits.
Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. Revelation 17:9
The ten horns of the beast are 10 kings.
JLB
Well since we see that the Lord Himself fights against those nations who attacked Jerusalem and destroys them, your question is indeed answered and your theory is proven invalid.
And this shall be the plague with which the LORD will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem:
Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet,
Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets,
And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.
Zechariah 14:12
Jerusalem is certainly not the prostitute who sits on seven mountains.
And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. Revelation 17:16
Those who come against Jerusalem are they themselves burned, unlike the harlot.
JLB
Because they fight against the lamb for possession of the promised land.
Revelation 17:14 - The Victory of the Lamb
They will make war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will triumph over them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and He will be accompanied by His called and chosen and faithful ones.biblehub.com
Same as David said in psalms.
Psalm 83:5 - Do Not Be Still, O God
For with one mind they plot together, they form an alliance against You--biblehub.com
I have no problem answering a question. You can't though.
Sorry but the Lord is the one who gathered the nations against Jerusalem, they didn’t come because they wanted land. LOL
Behold, the day of the LORD is coming,
And your spoil will be divided in your midst.
For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;
The city shall be taken,
The houses rifled,
And the women ravished.
Half of the city shall go into captivity,
But the remnant of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Then the LORD will go forth
And fight against those nations,
As He fights in the day of battle.
Zechariah 14:1-2
If you stop relying on Bible Hub and others to program you, and just read the scriptures, you will do better.
So far Bible Hub links are given your “answers”.
JLB
Shilohsfoal
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The beast is a kingdom.
The seven heads are the seven hills on which Jerusalem sits. The ten horns hate the prostitute.
That's why they attack Jerusalem and not Rome.
Zechariah 14:2 - The Destroyers of Jerusalem Destroyed
For I will gather all the nations for battle against Jerusalem, and the city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women ravished. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.
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Three and a half years of torment can cause some very hateful feelings toward Jerusalem. I understand where they are coming from.
Revelation 11:10 - The Witnesses Killed and Raised
And those who dwell on the earth will gloat over them, and will celebrate and send one another gifts, because these two prophets had tormented them.
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Yea they don't care about Rome. They hate Jerusalem and are going to rape the women and kill the men and babies. They won't even consider hurting Rome.