Sabbath Day business

[Sparkey]

“Don’t believe what your eyes are telling you. All they show is limitation. Look with your understanding. Find out what you already know and you will see the way to fly.”

― Richard Bach, Jonathan Livingston Seagull​

Now if you could learn that as well

Huh? I don't call Gentiles unclean. Do you?

I am a Gentile. I am saved by faith. I've been grafted in. No longer part of "The Yechy Unclean."

Also, I have been given an ear to hear. That means that I can hear you, JLB [and smile]. I know that God loves you even when you poke me. Just don't hurt others in my sight is all. I almost automatically pray and ask God for forgiveness for little jabs like this. But if you're hurting others? Then it isn't automatic at all. That's an uphill battle in me.

A riddle from the hawke:
If it's fair to say that gold is like WISDOM, (see Proverbs 16:16)
And if it's okay to say that silver is knowledge...
Because we know that Wisdom exceeds knowledge even as Gold exceeds silver,
Then comes the question, the riddle, if I may, "WHAT IS UNDERSTANDING?!?"​

 

[Sparkey]

Job 28

1. “Surely there is a mine for silver, and a place for gold that they refine.
2. Iron is taken out of the earth, and copper is smelted from the ore.
3. Man puts an end to darkness and searches out to the farthest limit the ore in gloom and deep darkness.
4. He opens shafts in a valley away from where anyone lives; they are forgotten by travelers; they hang in the air, far away from mankind; they swing to and fro.
5. As for the earth, out of it comes bread, but underneath it is turned up as by fire.
6. Its stones are the place of sapphires, and it has dust of gold.
7. That path no bird of prey knows, and the falcon’s eye has not seen it...
8. The proud beasts have not trodden it; the lion has not passed over it.
9. Man puts his hand to the flinty rock and overturns mountains by the roots.

RIDDLE: WHAT IS UNDERSTANDING?

The answer is found in Job 28:28
Understanding IS to depart evil.​

"And to man He said, 'Behold, the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; And to depart from evil is understanding.'"

 

[Jethro Bodine]

If a person thinks it to be a sin to kindle a fire on the Sabbath, because the law of Moses forbids it, then that person is doing it to be right with God, or as Jacor has explained it, "to maintain his salvation" which would be the very essence of doing it to be justified (declared righteous) by God.

I see. Just as you and I have resolved to not murder in order to be right with God.

Even though me and you know (well, me anyway) that our obedience does not make us right, legally speaking, before God, we do in fact seek to obey the law of Moses in order to please God. Jocor knows, no different than some of us, that we have an obligation, now that we have been declared legally righteous through the blood of Christ to actually seek to do what righteous people are expected to do. The only difference is he is convicted by conscience that he must keep the literal Sabbath to do that. We are sinning if we do not leave him alone. According to Paul, we are actually the ones who are sinning if we beat him up about it. He says we are not acting in love when we do that.

But I have the feeling you don't agree that YOU are the one sinning by bashing him about this matter and that you will continue to think you are actually doing the righteous thing by bashing him. I'm right, aren't I?

 

[Sparkey]

But I have the feeling you don't agree that YOU are the one sinning by bashing him

Nobody is Bashing him. I'm not certain who is not being bashed really but that's an exaggeration. We are online. This is virtual. There is no physical bashing going on. And if there was? Then it's a flesh battle and everybody is bashing. It's a free for all... but really? Nobody is bashing.

If we are involved in a FLESH battle over spiritual matters then we are not only bashing each other, we are bashing Christ. We are HIS BODY, right? Ever smack yourself in the face? I have. It's called *Palm to Forehead* and that could be a "bashing" maybe. Ever see Captain Jean-Luc Picard do it? Yeah. Me too. Let's not make our Savior do his imitation of that FICTIONAL star-trek Captain. PLEASE!

But it would be funny. Now I want to add a picture of our Shepherd doing a /DOH, Palm-strike to forehead. And if I get one? I'm posting it. But nobody is doing any real bashing -- that's just a figure of speech that means, "HEY! Let's count to ten..." It means, "I will take a short break and catch my breath because I'm here shadow boxing and I've done tuckered myself out!"

That's what that means.

But before you trot out the old Paul / Barnabas quote, and try to misquote it to say that your every fleshly urge is justified because you are supposedly "contending for the faith," I'll simply remind you that although you are passionate, you are not Paul. But then, you know this. And the fact that they lost it and it went to the point that they would have nothing to do with each other? This does not dismiss the fact that even that epic battle was temporary and soon to be resolved by the Holy Spirit. Nobody was permanently disfellowshipped.

According to an online article written by Wayne Jackson of the Christian Courier, "[The] dissension between Paul and Barnabas was not over a doctrinal issue. The rupture involved a personal dispute based upon a judgment call. To their credit, neither Paul nor Barnabas let the conflict distract them from their respective efforts of spreading the gospel."

He said they were arguing over opinion as you may see here, "Making application to Christians today, there will always be times when good brethren will disagree in matters of opinion. The important thing is to keep focused on doing the will of Christ."

 

[jocor]

Yes we all know the Lord God became flesh...

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
John 1:1,14

The question was He a man only?

In other words, God beget a Son...

Did God beget God?
or
Did God beget man?


JLB

Drop it JLB. I will not enter into a theological discussion in this law thread.

 

[jocor]

Wait(!)

You were excommunicated for your beliefs? Okay, let's pretend I didn't hear that. You know that Paul (who should be the leader of your then-leadership) would disagree and by extension, God disagrees, if what they kicked you out over was solely about worshiping on Saturday or Sunday, right?

COL 2:15-17 (uncopyrighted, public domain version (we own it) that I just quick-grabbed off'n the spider infested inter-webs)
When He had disarmed the rulers and authorities, He made a public display of them, having triumphed over them through Him. Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day--things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.…​

Not only did the excommunicate me, but they turned me over to Satan for the destruction of my flesh!

 

[Sparkey]

jocor, I understand what they did and also understand the biblical authority to do such a thing. Although they are not here to defend themselves I can still say with great confidence that it was not done without ample consideration and not done lightly. That does not mean that I think they were right to do that. Maybe they were, and maybe they were not. I do understand that it could not be done without it hurting your feelings big time.

But you are commanded to not allow bitterness to grow in you, and so far, I see no reason to thing (EDIT by Sparrow: oops, typo -- I meant, no reason to think) that you have failed in that. Remain faithful to that command, I admonish you. Continue to guard yourself. If there is no bitterness (so far), then, "Good job." If that is the case (and only you can know) then I'm here to say that even you can't guard yourself that well, meaning: the Holy Spirit did that too(!).

Do you know that they said, "We are doing this for his own good," before it was done too? That is what they said (to themselves at least). Of that, I'm fairly certain. That is always what is said. I'm not standing in judgment of you, but snuffing a candle is only done for one reason (if it is done in truth).

 

[jocor]

jocor, I understand what they did and also understand the biblical authority to do such a thing. Although they are not here to defend themselves I can still say with great confidence that it was not done without ample consideration and not done lightly. That does not mean that I think they were right to do that. Maybe they were, and maybe they were not. I do understand that it could not be done without it hurting your feelings big time.

But you are commanded to not allow bitterness to grow in you, and so far, I see no reason to thing (EDIT by Sparrow: oops, typo -- I meant, no reason to think) that you have failed in that. Remain faithful to that command, I admonish you. Continue to guard yourself. If there is no bitterness (so far), then, "Good job." If that is the case (and only you can know) then I'm here to say that even you can't guard yourself that well and the Holy Spirit did that too(!).

Do you know that they said, "We are doing this for his own good," before it was done too? That is what they said (to themselves at least). Of that, I'm fairly certain. That is always what is said. I'm not standing in judgment of you, but snuffing a candle is only done for one reason (if it is done in truth).

This happened back in 1986. I had no bitterness whatsoever because I knew I was doing what my Father commanded and wrote in my heart and it was confirmed by a visiting pastor through his gift of prophecy. I also knew they did not even bother to try to understand what I was seeing in the Word. They just reacted in fear to "legalism" entering their church. I felt sorry for them for being so steeped in fear and ignorance.

 

[jocor]

If a person thinks it to be a sin to kindle a fire on the Sabbath, because the law of Moses forbids it, then that person is doing it to be right with God, or as Jacor has explained it, "to maintain his salvation" which would be the very essence of doing it to be justified (declared righteous) by God.

There is a big difference between salvation and justification. They are not the same, yet you use them interchangeably.

I don't think many of us disagree that the Sabbath is the 7th day.

Sabbath is the day that God designed for man to rest.

I think most of our contention is how the rest is to be conducted.

Are we obligated to keep the Sabbath as the law of Moses commands?

The answer is clearly no.

If you think we should keep the Sabbath as the law of Moses commands, please explain why.
JLB

We keep the other nine commandments as they are written in the Law of Moses. Why not the Sabbath command as well? Please show me how we don't keep the other nine as the Law of Moses commands. Do not use Yeshua's example of lusting in one's heart being adultery. All he did was reveal the true boundaries of adultery from lusting in the heart to committing the literal act.

 

[Sparkey]

The other nine commands are part of the Written in Stone tablet commands... there's more to the Law (even the LAW, as it came through Moshe) than that. There is more, much more. It's not about the 10 tablet command synopsis. But you know this and don't need me to teach it to you.

I thought you said you would not argue theological battles here in thread.

WB (Welcome Back) jocor Know that you are in my prayers here, as are all of our brothers and sisters who enter into this thread in General Talk aka The Lounge. We will keep it light and suitable to be labeled as a FIRESIDE chat. That's not a certainty, but it is my HIPE (oops, forgive me, I mean HOPE).

Men fight. God laughs. Battle is over! BOOM. I'm calling our HERO to come. Join with this little drop of rain and call as you fall. Let that fire go out! We don't need to snuff candles. That's not for here. It is NOT. And I'm not speaking to our friend, jocor either. Even though he really knows what I'm talking about better than most, I'm crying out to all who are given an ear to hear in this, our wilderness.

Church of CF.net ---> tune your radio dial to channel 410 (right next to channel 411) and HEAR what the Spirit says to you. We are joining together here, or the better way to say it is, the Holy Spirit is calling us to set down our flesh and join together in spirit and in truth even here. Attend this service or be taken to the church of slappy. It's up to you! Ignore this friendly reminder at your peril. Right now we are only "hard of hearing" but that doesn't mean that we won't go deaf utterly.

We are being seized and we are falling back. So then what? Stop and speak to your God. His Spirit, our Ruach HaKodesh is easily (readily) entreated.

According to Allen Walker, a writer for SabbathTruth.com, "There was nothing in the Ten Commandment law about meats, drinks, new moons, sabbath days (plural), or feast days. All these were in the law which the Lord told Moses (I like to call him MOSHE because that's his name -inserted by Sparrow) to command to the people. The weekly Sabbath is not mentioned in these texts. Paul says plainly that he is speaking of "sabbath days which are a shadow of things to come," and not of the weekly Sabbath [Saturday, end-of-week Sabbath of the Creation Week] which was a memorial of something that happened in the past at creation."

Walker continues and brings a very interesting point about looking forward vs. looking backward, and tell us that, "[t]he fourth commandment does not tell us to keep the seventh day as a type of something to come. It says: "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. ... For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

I think that Walker was saying that there is a big difference between continuing something that was given as a memorial even if it was etched in stone (to symbolize how it would never change) and something that was given as a type and a shadow of the new to come! We are told that it is a memorial. Right there in the text, but yet, some will refuse to hear and they will be seized and caught and dragged back. But that is not what I think of you, beloved of Him. Not one bit. He loves and will release you of all bondage. There is no doubt, but what will you do with your new found freedom? That is the question.

 

[WalterandDebbie]

Should a Christian for whatever reason decide to do business (monetary) on Sundays or on the Sabbath days?

The things that we normally would do in 6 days as a week endings, it is a custom not to do those things on the Sabbath days.

Or is it what you are talking about?
As he was doing in life, Are we suppose to follow our his steps/Jesus. I Peter 2:21

Here is what I'am talking about for the beginning of this post, about the Sabbath starts from the Civil calendar: starting on Friday/end of 6th. day at sunset until Saturday/end of 7th. day at sunset.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+4:16&version=KJV

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...2&ie=UTF-8#q=how to keep the sabbath day holy

 

[Sparkey]

Guys? My respite here is soon to be over. Wednesday calls me back to the doctors and I have every reason to expect that all my restrictions will be lifted. So I won't be here much longer. I'll be able (become enabled) to pick up something that I've not been allowed to lift before and I need prayers there too, please. At the moment, I am under a 10 pound lifting restriction due to recent surgery (not something that I am unfamiliar with - it happened last year too, for longer period of time) but that's coming off... and although we are talking about a physical restriction, I am so very used to taking liberty that I said to myself, "Wait... I know what I'll do. I'll fly to CF.net and do what my hand finds to do (and I admonished myself, "Do it will all your might because you are *now talking* about spirit man lifting and not about physical)... but that's another story... for another day.

Another member on page 8 in POST #158, Douglas Summers spoke of outdated blue laws (thanks for that). Those customs were once the customs of our culture (I speak of American culture - it may have also been Aussie culture too? Or Canadian? But it was part of Occidental culture and not just Middle Eastern or Jewish. Stores closed on Sunday. We used to be prohibited from sale of liquor on Sunday. There were other "blue laws" and if you never heard about them, go ask your grandma. But please! Do not try to teach her how to suck eggs. That's worse than preaching to the choir. "Sheesh!" or if I were to translate from idioms of reba to sparrow-squawk, "Harrumph!" :tongue

 

[jocor]

The other nine commands are part of the Written in Stone tablet commands... there's more to the Law (even the LAW, as it came through Moshe) than that. There is more, much more. It's not about the 10 tablet command synopsis. But you know this and don't need me to teach it to you.

I know there is more to the Law than the 10. Since JLB wanted to know about the Sabbath, the best way to teach that is to see if we treat the other nine any differently. For example, if we obey the command to not steal exactly as the Law of Moshe commands, they why can't we do the same for the Sabbath? JLB's argument that we should not keep the Sabbath as the Law of Moshe commands is flawed.

I thought you said you would not argue theological battles here in thread.

WB (Welcome Back) jocor

By "theological discussion," I meant a discussion of who "God" is or isn't.

 

[Sparkey]

You may do the same for Sabbath. THAT is what Paul said, Let no man judge you about Saturday Sabbath stuff... (paraphrase). And he went further than that in his urging and admonishment and said that we are to "Let no man judge" about things like foods too. And although there are many who are fond of twisting what Peter's vision sheet meant (the one that had the creepy-crawly bugs on it and he said, "Not so, LORD," three times and you may count them if you want) that does not negate the fact that we are not supposed to sit in judgment over our brothers about stupid stuff like eating a pork rind. If I wanted, i could sit with you and make a pizza on Saturday and put salami on it and we could freely eat, but if you thought that it was not supposed to even so much as be cooked on Saturday, our day of rest? I could respect your custom and prepare it on Friday and that would not be sin.

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days... (ibid)

By "theological discussion," I meant a discussion of who "God" is or isn't.

Thanks for the clarification there. Don't you wish we had Jesus (in the physical so we could email Him) and get our peccadillo resolved as easily?

But then again? Although I'm sure, I'm seldom certain. What if what Paul meant was we are to not let others judge about eating meat (implied clean meats, meaning flesh -- sometimes (like in Deuteronomy) we can see permission to eat flesh because we lust for it... and permission is given even after crossing Jordan there... but that's later defined as eating flesh that is clean like the roe or the hind or other field deer and although "The Unclean" is mentioned even there, he's not talking about giving deer and other herbivores permissions to become carnivores. That's just silly. He's saying that the stranger in the gate or servants who are "the unclean" are allowed to eat flesh.

Deut 12:20 When the LORD thy God shall enlarge thy border, as he hath promised thee, and thou shalt say, I will eat flesh, because thy soul longeth to eat flesh; thou mayest eat flesh, whatsoever thy soul lusteth after (or, as some have rendered, "and you may eat whatever you want").

Deut 12:21 ...and thou shalt eat in thy gates whatsoever thy soul lusteth after...

But that's taking stuff out of context and we should all throw a flag on that play. He's NOT giving permission to eat all flesh according to what we lust for -- he's saying that even after the borders are expanded and they come to the promise land after crossing jordan they can still eat flesh because He knows their souls lust for flesh and he's recalling for them because he knows their little bums are still smarting from the spanking He gave in the wilderness; how they had cried out against the mana because it was a repetitious gift that sustained them and He gave them flesh (quail?) to eat until it was coming out of their ears.

It has nothing to do with eating unclean flesh. Nothing. Period.

 

[JLB]

Agreed, and calling it my "no so, Lord doctrine" honors me too much. That doctrine isn't mine. It belongs to the Holy Spirit. I found it in the bible and mentioned it and reinforced it because Peter was acting just as if he had been commanded to cook barley cakes over human dung (and that too was the Holy Spirit's 'not so, Lord" with Ezekiel, not Peter...)

But I do agree with you. Peter did obey. Peter did exactly what the Holy Spirit said to him (nothing more, nothing less) because Peter did stop calling the Gentiles 'the unclean' (as you say). That was just what Jews had been calling them for thousands of years. So it wasn't Peter only either. But Peter never stopped calling them spiders and creepy crawly yech because he never once called them spiders and creepy crawly yech in his life, that's why! He just said they were unclean and that's why he and others refused to eat with them. So God made them clean and showed Peter and the whole world what he did. And Peter was the first to stop calling Gentiles Unclean.

Also notice that it took an exceptional thing for God to get His point across. Typical order (with Jews) was just like Peter had said, "Repent, be baptized, and ye shall be filled [baptized] with the Holy Spirit (Acts 2 something). God filled with the Holy Spirit before they were water baptized. THAT is the point. Gentiles were ushered in. The Usher is the Holy Spirit who is utterly holy and apart from sin. That's why Peter's testimony about the Unclean (the gentiles) being made clean was so very effective. Without the Holy Spirit ushering the Gentiles in, you and I would NOT BE HERE. There is no chance of it happening otherwise. ('nuff said)



And here too Paul is correct. And you know he was speaking about idols. So if I go into a person's house, your house, for instance, and if I see something that might appear to be an idol, let's say it's a christmas tree... and if it's all decorated and has twinkles on it and if I see children holding hands in a circle and they are dancing around it and giving it more veneration than a dead tree deserves? And even if they are singing to that dead tree, "O, christmas tree, o christmas tree..." ???

Instead of declaring Oy vey ist mir! under my breath (Oh! Woe is me! for what I see...) We are assured that nothing is unclean in and of itself. You won't hear me calling you an idol worshiper. Not even in my heart. God has grace for his children even if they have not come into the fullness of His glory experientially. WE should too.

14 I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. 15 Yet if your brother is grieved because of yourfood, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ died.
Romans 14:14-15

Paul learned Jesus that all foods are pure and acceptable to eat.

Nothing is mentioned about Christmas trees here.


JLB

 

[Sparkey]

Paul learned from Jesus (actually it was from Peter and the Ruach HaKodesh, and not during the Damascus experience) that he was to no longer call that which God has cleansed (the Gentiles) UNCLEAN. But if you have a scripture that shows Paul sitting down for a pork chop dinner with somebody, bring it.

But does that mean that it is a sin for me, a Gentile< to eat a pork chip (a nibble of a pork chop)??? No. It does not. That is NOT what Paul taught either. But does that mean that it's not a sin for a person of Jewish culture? No. It could very well be a sin in that case. And I've taken pains to explain that to you . But if you're just gonna stand there and stick your fingers in your ears and mumble while I'm speaking? Then this is NO LONGER A CONVERSATION between brothers and I will no longer entertain your mumbling. Think before you speak, please. I adjure you.

The x-mas tree is well known (by some) as an idol. That's what Paul spoke of and a person in a Jewish frame of mind would know what I meant by our habit of singing to a tree. There is NOTHING unclean in and of itself. That idol has no life. That tree is dead. You should know this because it's very possible that you, yourself, cut it down. THAT's what Paul was talking about; little idols that we ourselves create, and strangely enough, that's what I'm talking about too, especially when our pet idols are false doctrines. And I'm not here trying to say that those who celebrate Christmas are idol worshipers. God sees hearts. They don't do any such thing. Even I know that much. Why don't you?

So stop with me, because I'm tired of being nit-pic'd here. So just stop it!

 

[JLB]

I know there is more to the Law than the 10. Since JLB wanted to know about the Sabbath, the best way to teach that is to see if we treat the other nine any differently. For example, if we obey the command to not steal exactly as the Law of Moshe commands, they why can't we do the same for the Sabbath? JLB's argument that we should not keep the Sabbath as the Law of Moshe commands is flawed.


By "theological discussion," I meant a discussion of who "God" is or isn't.

According to Moses, if a woman is caught in adultery then she should be stoned to death, without a chance to be forgiven of this sin, by repenting.

Likewise, according to The law of Moses, a person who gathers sticks on the Sabbath, are to be put to death as well.

Neither of these commandments are kept like this in the New Covenant.

If you can show a New Testament scripture, whereby after the cross the Apostles put a person to death for Sabbath Violation or Adultery then you will have made a valid point.

The Lord Jesus, Who was the lawgiver of the Old Testament, is the Mediator of the New Covenant, as He is also our High Priest.

We are no longer under Levi, as the law and the Priesthood has changed. Hebrews 7:12


JLB

 

[JLB]

But I have the feeling you don't agree that YOU are the one sinning by bashing him about this matter and that you will continue to think you are actually doing the righteous thing by bashing him. I'm right, aren't I?

Bashing?

Discussing the scriptures is now bashing?

This is a desperate attempt at a logical fallacy, to try and ridicule the person rather than believe the scripture.

While out of the other side of your mouth you call others a lying false prophet, and not a brother.

Funny.


JLB

 

[Sparkey]

Bashing?

You quoted that did you? Why did you not quote my defense of you? I thought my defense was adequate, was it not?
Here's the post: POST #204


Take your fingers out of your ears and listen to what others say from their hearts. And I know that you're a Christian, so is it fair to say that you have a fetish or penchant for this particular flavor of discussion and that you simply can not resist?

 

[JLB]

Paul learned from Jesus (actually it was from Peter and the Ruach HaKodesh, and not during the Damascus experience) that he was to no longer call that which God has cleansed (the Gentiles) UNCLEAN. But if you have a scripture that shows Paul sitting down for a pork chop dinner with somebody, bring it.

But does that mean that it is a sin for me, a Gentile< to eat a pork chip (a nibble of a pork chop)??? No. It does not. That is NOT what Paul taught either. But does that mean that it's not a sin for a person of Jewish culture? No. It could very well be a sin in that case. And I've taken pains to explain that to you . But if you're just gonna stand there and stick your fingers in your ears and mumble while I'm speaking? Then this is NO LONGER A CONVERSATION between brothers and I will no longer entertain your mumbling. Think before you speak, please. I adjure you.

The x-mas tree is well known (by some) as an idol. That's what Paul spoke of and a person in a Jewish frame of mind would know what I meant by our habit of singing to a tree. There is NOTHING unclean in and of itself. That idol has no life. That tree is dead. You should know this because it's very possible that you, yourself, cut it down. THAT's what Paul was talking about; little idols that we ourselves create, and strangely enough, that's what I'm talking about too, especially when our pet idols are false doctrines. And I'm not here trying to say that those who celebrate Christmas are idol worshipers. God sees hearts. They don't do any such thing. Even I know that much. Why don't you?

So stop with me, because I'm tired of being nit-pic'd here. So just stop it!

18 So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him,19 because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?” Mark 7:18-18

No food that enters a person can defile him, to make him unclean or impure. Because it does don't enter his heart, but rather his stomach, and is eliminated.

Jesus taught what defiles a person, it is the evil within a person, that defiles another person.

20 And He said, “What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.” Mark 7:20-23

Thats why taught his churches not keep company with sexually immoral people, because they would become defiled. It is what flows out of a persons inner man, that is to say, his heart, that brings defilement to others.

That's why we are told to guard you hearts for out of it flows the issues of life.

JLB