Seven Year Covenant and Daniel’s 70 weeks

[Truth7t7]

566 years?

Daniels 70 weeks represent 490 days, and this period is yet "Future" and unfulfilled.

Daniel 9:24-27 finds its relationship in Micah 7: 11-17 & Revelation 12:6 finds its relationship in Micah 7:14-16

Daniel 9:25 the wall and street seen to be built in "Troublous Times", is also the same wall and street seen in Micah 7:11, as the armies of the world surround Jerusalem the building is stopped, this is the fulfilling of the gentiles seen in Revelation 11:2, when Jerusalem is trampled under foot.

Daniel 9:26 the people of the prince shall come and destroy the city, this is seen in Micah 7:12 as the Assyrians and the Nations from sea to sea shall come against Jerusalem.

We see in Micah 7:14-16 the woman seen being fed in the wilderness, as in the days of coming out of Egypt, Manna from heaven, the world watches in astonishment, also seen in Revelation 12:6

As is clearly seen the wall and street to be built, the fulfilling of the gentiles, and the woman being fed in the wilderness are "Future Events" and have not been fulfilled.

Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Micah 7:11-16KJV
11 In the day that thy walls are to be built, in that day shall the decree be far removed.
12 In that day also he shall come even to thee from Assyria, and from the fortified cities, and from the fortress even to the river, and from sea to sea, and from mountain to mountain.
13 Notwithstanding the land shall be desolate because of them that dwell therein, for the fruit of their doings.
14 Feed thy people with thy rod, the flock of thine heritage, which dwell solitarily in the wood, in the midst of Carmel: let them feed in Bashan and Gilead, as in the days of old.
15 According to the days of thy coming out of the land of Egypt will I shew unto him marvellous things.
16 The nations shall see and be confounded at all their might: they shall lay their hand upon their mouth, their ears shall be deaf.

The woman below being fed in the wilderness is seen in Micah 7:14-16, Manna from heaven, as in the day's of coming out of Egypt.

Revelation 12:6KJV
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

The fulfilling of the gentiles, as the gentile armies trample Jerusalem, is also seen in Micah 7:12-13

Revelation 11:2KJV
2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

 

[Razeontherock]

How do you make the 70 weeks jibe with the 42 months of Rev?

 

[Truth7t7]

How do you make the 70 weeks jibe with the 42 months of Rev?

When the future command to build the wall and street in Jerusalem is given?

The worlds armies surrounding Jerusalem and Antichrist are 70 weeks away.

The revealing of the future Antichrist in Jerusalem in the 70th week, begins the great tribulation and the 42 month clock is ticking.

Are the months lunar/solar who cares, gets ya in the ball park of whats up.

 

[for_his_glory]

I disagree with your 66-70AD fulfillment in the Roman Destruction of Jerusalem, and your symbolic representations of "God protecting his people"

There will be a future 70 literal weeks or 490 days in Jerusalem, where the wall and street will be built again, in the 70th week world armies will surround Jerusalem and stop the building, during this 7 day period the "Antichrist" of Daniel will be revealed as a human man of world peace.

We have expressed our opinions "Several Times" the horse is dead, you may have the last word

Some use the collective of the full context with history and some only partial without history so you believe as you will. God bless and have a good day

 

[JLB]

566 years?

Yes sir.

Minus the time the work was stopped then started again, which is indicated by the three distinct time frames.


7 Weeks
62 Weeks
1 Week

Cyrus initiated the work.

His successor halted the work.

The next successor restarted the work.


All foreseen by God and proclaimed by Daniel.



JLB

 

[for_his_glory]

During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times. The last siege and destruction of the 2nd Temple and the wall was in 70AD as a revolt led by Titus as he broke through the walls and destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem. The wall and the Temple were never rebuilt, nor will it be in the future. The Temple mount laid waste until the Dome of the Rock was built on it in 691AD by the caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. The Islamic control over the Dome of the Rock will never surrender the original temple mount back to the Jews.

The last decree to build and restore Jerusalem, including the building of the second Temple, came around 538BC with the decree given to Ezra by King Cyrus. Through much oppositions the city, walls and the second Temple were completed on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of King Darius II around 417BC as he reigned from 423BC to 404BC, Ezra Chapter 1-6. This was part of the vision given to Daniel as the full prophecy given to him is found in Daniel Chapter 9-12.

During the first six trumpets we read all the destruction that will befall earth and its inhabitants during God's great wrath being poured out into the world on those who are none of Christ as they refuse to repent. This will be worldwide which will cause much chaos and great fear in the hearts of those who have no understanding, Hosea 4:6, 7. They will be seeking a type of savior, yet rejecting the very Savior, Christ Jesus, who wants to save them.

During the sounding of the seventh trumpet they will accept this deceptive savior who is the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, who will take his seat in Jerusalem on the very Temple Mount where the Dome of the Rock sits and even now is being refurbished. He will try and rule the nations for 3 1/2 years causing all to bow down and take its mark as he promises peace and safety displaying lying signs and wonders claiming he is God. Those who refuse will be taken captive and dealt with as many Christians will either become a slave or die a martyr's death, Rev 13.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21, At the end of the 3 1/2 years Christ returns with His army (warring angels) from heaven and fights the final battle destroying the beast and false prophet by the spirit (word) of His mouth and the brightness of His coming, 2 Thessalonians 2:8, casting both into the lake of fire and then the remnant being those governments from every nation that have always followed and obeyed the beast.

Rev 20 This is the time of the gathering of the saints when He sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather all who are His that are asleep in the grave and alive at His coming as He binds Satan for a time so he can not interfere with the gathering. Once we are gathered to Him Jesus lets Satan loose for a time to gather his army against the camp of the saints, but God consumes his army by fire sent down from heaven and Satan is then cast into the lake of fire and God's final judgment comes as those whose names are not found written in the Lamb's book of life are cast into the lake of fire.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.

 

[for_his_glory]

Yes sir.

Minus the time the work was stopped then started again, which is indicated by the three distinct time frames.


7 Weeks
62 Weeks
1 Week

Cyrus initiated the work.

His successor halted the work.

The next successor restarted the work.


All foreseen by God and proclaimed by Daniel.



JLB

John2:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

From the time the decree was given around 538BC and all the opposition from the other kings it took 46 years to build the 2nd Temple and restore Jerusalem once again.

 

[Truth7t7]

During its long history, Jerusalem has been destroyed at least twice, besieged 23 times, attacked 52 times, and captured and recaptured 44 times. The last siege and destruction of the 2nd Temple and the wall was in 70AD as a revolt led by Titus as he broke through the walls and destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem. The wall and the Temple were never rebuilt, nor will it be in the future. The Temple mount laid waste until the Dome of the Rock was built on it in 691AD by the caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan. The Islamic control over the Dome of the Rock will never surrender the original temple mount back to the Jews.

The last decree to build and restore Jerusalem, including the building of the second Temple, came around 538BC with the decree given to Ezra by King Cyrus. Through much oppositions the city, walls and the second Temple were completed on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of King Darius II around 417BC as he reigned from 423BC to 404BC, Ezra Chapter 1-6. This was part of the vision given to Daniel as the full prophecy given to him is found in Daniel Chapter 9-12.

During the first six trumpets we read all the destruction that will befall earth and its inhabitants during God's great wrath being poured out into the world on those who are none of Christ as they refuse to repent. This will be worldwide which will cause much chaos and great fear in the hearts of those who have no understanding, Hosea 4:6, 7. They will be seeking a type of savior, yet rejecting the very Savior, Christ Jesus, who wants to save them.

During the sounding of the seventh trumpet they will accept this deceptive savior who is the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, who will take his seat in Jerusalem on the very Temple Mount where the Dome of the Rock sits and even now is being refurbished. He will try and rule the nations for 3 1/2 years causing all to bow down and take its mark as he promises peace and safety displaying lying signs and wonders claiming he is God. Those who refuse will be taken captive and dealt with as many Christians will either become a slave or die a martyr's death, Rev 13.

Matthew 24:29-31; Rev 19:11-21, At the end of the 3 1/2 years Christ returns with His army (warring angels) from heaven and fights the final battle destroying the beast and false prophet by the spirit (word) of His mouth and the brightness of His coming, 2 Thessalonians 2:8, casting both into the lake of fire and then the remnant being those governments from every nation that have always followed and obeyed the beast.

Rev 20 This is the time of the gathering of the saints when He sends His angels out to the four corners of the earth to gather all who are His that are asleep in the grave and alive at His coming as He binds Satan for a time so he can not interfere with the gathering. Once we are gathered to Him Jesus lets Satan loose for a time to gather his army against the camp of the saints, but God consumes his army by fire sent down from heaven and Satan is then cast into the lake of fire and God's final judgment comes as those whose names are not found written in the Lamb's book of life are cast into the lake of fire.

Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new.

You have those in the grave "sleeping"
Are you 7th day Adventist?

You have a Muslim antichrist, that will rule from the mosque of Omar/dome of the rock Jerusalem?

You have all christians being enslaved to this Muslim antichrist or martyred?

 

[for_his_glory]

You have those in the grave "sleeping"
Are you 7th day Adventist?

You have a Muslim antichrist, that will rule from the mosque of Omar/dome of the rock Jerusalem?

You have all christians being enslaved to this Muslim antichrist or martyred?

1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

I never said the last antichrist, being the son of perdition, is a Muslim according to scripture he will be a Gentile that tramples the city, Rev 11:2.

Again not a Muslim antichrist, but that of a revived Roman Empire who has always persecuted those that are of God and His Christ,

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

 

[Truth7t7]

1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

I never said the last antichrist, being the son of perdition, is a Muslim according to scripture he will be a Gentile that tramples the city, Rev 11:2.

Again not a Muslim antichrist, but that of a revived Roman Empire who has always persecuted those that are of God and His Christ,

Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? 11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

Are you 7th day Adventist, you didn't answer?

You have a Muslim Mosque of Omar being refurbished, and a non-Muslim gentile Antichrist sitting and ruling in this Mosque?

You have the Antichrist killing all saints, and reference Revelation 13:7? I Believe these saints represent the "Two Witnesses" being killed at the end of the tribulation, not all christians.

What are you going to do with the 144,000 saved Jewish remnant, that have the gospel preaching Rev 14:6, in the wilderness being fed Manna Micah 7:14-16, Rev 12:6, there not being killed by this antichrist?

What do you say to God's protection of the "Saints" seen below Rev 13:9-10, anybody trying to kill or jail the "Saints" will in return be killed or jailed?

Revelation 13:9-10KJV
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Here we see in Rev 16:15 the Lord is speaking to the Church present on earth, to the blessed "Saints" watching for his return, this is at the time of the final battle, they are not killed?

Revelation 16:13-17KJV
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

 

[for_his_glory]

Are you 7th day Adventist, you didn't answer?

You have a Muslim Mosque of Omar being refurbished, and a non-Muslim gentile Antichrist sitting and ruling in this Mosque?

You have the Antichrist killing all saints, and reference Revelation 13:7? I Believe these saints represent the "Two Witnesses" being killed at the end of the tribulation, not all christians.

What are you going to do with the 144,000 saved Jewish remnant, that have the gospel preaching Rev 14:6, in the wilderness being fed Manna Micah 7:14-16, Rev 12:6, there not being killed by this antichrist?

What do you say to God's protection of the "Saints" seen below Rev 13:9-10, anybody trying to kill or jail the "Saints" will in return be killed or jailed?

Revelation 13:9-10KJV
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

Here we see in Rev 16:15 the Lord is speaking to the Church present on earth, to the blessed "Saints" watching for his return, this is at the time of the final battle, they are not killed?

Revelation 16:13-17KJV
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

No, I am not a LDS. I am a simple country girl that loves the Lord being Spiritually born again, indwelled with the Holy Spirit and washed in the blood of the Lamb as I am sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption when Christ returns for His Bride.

The Dome of the Rock is being refurbished and within a peace treaty that is even now in the works the Muslims will share the Dome of the Rock with this Gentile beast described in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 and Rev 13.

Rev 13 has nothing to do with the two witness as it says make war with the saints meaning those who are of Christ who are still alive at that time as we are all witnesses and testify of Christ.

Rev 14 The hundred and forty four thousand that John sees standing with Jesus is not a literal numbering, but symbolic of those of Gods established covenant with faithful Abraham up through a thousand generations, Deuteronomy 7:9; Galatians 3:6, 7; 3:28, 29. These are they of great faith that have never allowed them selves to fall to temptations of the world. To the Jew first and then the Gentile who have gone on before us as together with them all who are alive or have died before the Lords return makes up the complete body of Christ as being the Bride of Christ, Ephesians 5:25-27.

Those men, women and children that make up the symbolic hundred and forty four thousand that have been redeemed from among men are called virgins. This means those of Spiritual purity that make up the true Church or Bride of Christ and not to be equated with celibacy, Hebrews 12:22-24; James 1:18, 27; 2 Corinthians 11:2. The virgins being the firstfruits unto God and to Jesus through the Spiritual rebirth are those who have set their affection on those things from above as they have died to self and live for Christ, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10; Colossians Chapter 3.

Rev 13:9, 10 where in scripture does it say God protects us from being killed or imprisoned? We are only sealed by the Holy Spirit that God's wrath does not fall on us.

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

 

[Truth7t7]

No, I am not a LDS. I am a simple country girl that loves the Lord being Spiritually born again, indwelled with the Holy Spirit and washed in the blood of the Lamb as I am sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption when Christ returns for His Bride.

The Dome of the Rock is being refurbished and within a peace treaty that is even now in the works the Muslims will share the Dome of the Rock with this Gentile beast described in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 and Rev 13.

Rev 13 has nothing to do with the two witness as it says make war with the saints meaning those who are of Christ who are still alive at that time as we are all witnesses and testify of Christ.

Rev 14 The hundred and forty four thousand that John sees standing with Jesus is not a literal numbering, but symbolic of those of Gods established covenant with faithful Abraham up through a thousand generations, Deuteronomy 7:9; Galatians 3:6, 7; 3:28, 29. These are they of great faith that have never allowed them selves to fall to temptations of the world. To the Jew first and then the Gentile who have gone on before us as together with them all who are alive or have died before the Lords return makes up the complete body of Christ as being the Bride of Christ, Ephesians 5:25-27.

Those men, women and children that make up the symbolic hundred and forty four thousand that have been redeemed from among men are called virgins. This means those of Spiritual purity that make up the true Church or Bride of Christ and not to be equated with celibacy, Hebrews 12:22-24; James 1:18, 27; 2 Corinthians 11:2. The virgins being the firstfruits unto God and to Jesus through the Spiritual rebirth are those who have set their affection on those things from above as they have died to self and live for Christ, John 3:3-7; Romans 10:9, 10; Colossians Chapter 3.

Rev 13:9, 10 where in scripture does it say God protects us from being killed or imprisoned? We are only sealed by the Holy Spirit that God's wrath does not fall on us.

Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Once again, you did not answer, Are you 7th Day Adventist, I ask because of your view on "Soul Sleep"?

I didn't ask if you were LDS, Mormon.

With your view on the 144,000 I would ask are you Jehovahs Witness?

I have studied to find that both 7th day adventist and Jehovahs witnesses share similar views.

 

[for_his_glory]

Once again, you did not answer, Are you 7th Day Adventist, I ask because of your view on "Soul Sleep"?

I didn't ask if you were LDS, Mormon.

With your view on the 144,000 I would ask are you Jehovahs Witness?

I have studied to find that both 7th day adventist and Jehovahs witnesses share similar views.

If you would have read my post you would have seen exactly who I am. I don't believe in the teaching of soul sleep. When this physical body dies it is only the breath that goes back to God who gave it. That breath of life is what makes us a living soul so without that breath there is no soul.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Ecc 12:7 then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

 

[Truth7t7]

If you would have read my post you would have seen exactly who I am. I don't believe in the teaching of soul sleep. When this physical body dies it is only the breath that goes back to God who gave it. That breath of life is what makes us a living soul so without that breath there is no soul.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Ecc 12:7 then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Im non-denominational christian, do you have an affiliation to a religious org?

 

[for_his_glory]

Im non-denominational christian, do you have an affiliation to a religious org?

No as I already explained who I am in Christ in post #71.

 

[Jim Parker]

I do know this with every fiber of body and mind that Jesus Christ’s return for His people is close at hand

Well, you're in good company. That's what Paul thought almost 2000 years ago.
1Co 7:29-31 But this I say, brethren, the time is short, so that from now on even those who have wives should be as though they had none, those who weep as though they did not weep, those who rejoice as though they did not rejoice, those who buy as though they did not possess, and those who use this world as not misusing it. For the form of this world is passing away.

iakov the fool

 

[Razeontherock]

If you would have read my post you would have seen exactly who I am. I don't believe in the teaching of soul sleep. When this physical body dies it is only the breath that goes back to God who gave it. That breath of life is what makes us a living soul so without that breath there is no soul.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Ecc 12:7 then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

You've been talking about the souls under the altar in Rev quite a bit. Your statement here makes no allowance for that. What do you do with it?

 

[Truth7t7]

If you would have read my post you would have seen exactly who I am. I don't believe in the teaching of soul sleep. When this physical body dies it is only the breath that goes back to God who gave it. That breath of life is what makes us a living soul so without that breath there is no soul.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Ecc 12:7 then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Two Questions?

1. Do you believe in Hell as described below, a place of torment?

2. Do you believe in concious awareness in the soul after death as seen below?

Luke 16:22-26KJV
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

 

[Truth7t7]

Well, you're in good company. That's what Paul thought almost 2000 years ago.
1Co 7:29-31 But this I say, brethren, the time is short, so that from now on even those who have wives should be as though they had none, those who weep as though they did not weep, those who rejoice as though they did not rejoice, those who buy as though they did not possess, and those who use this world as not misusing it. For the form of this world is passing away.

iakov the fool

You can't rule out many signs are seen today that were not prevelant in Pauls day?

60 million unborn killed annually in the world (Abortion)

The majority of western world nations adopting (Same Sex Marriage)

Israel and the Jews are established since 1948 once again, in a geographic location on earth "Jerusalem" to see prophecies fulfilled

I don't push the I know the day and hour theory, however I believe we need to be aware of our surroundings.

When a man proclaims to be a world Messiah in Jerusalem, you will know the Antichrist is on the scene.

 

[for_his_glory]

You've been talking about the souls under the altar in Rev quite a bit. Your statement here makes no allowance for that. What do you do with it?

The souls under the altar in Rev 6:10 are those who have died a martyr's death in the past for the sake of Christ as their breath/spirit has gone back to God after they died, Genesis 2:7; Ecc 12:7; John 3:13. They are asking God how long will it be until you judge and avenge our blood. In vs. 11 they are told to wait until their fellowservants and brethren should be killed as they were should be fulfilled. The fulfillment will happen during the timing of the mark of the beast in Rev 13 where many will be killed for the sake of Christ as they refuse to denounce Him and take the mark of this beast, Rev 13:15. Then will God's final judgment come when Christ returns and destroys the beast and his false prophet casting them into the lake of fire, Rev 19, 20