Danus
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I thought about putting this in the A&T section, but getting to the doctrine of what sin is would have made it too long. Besides, this is more about sin as the world sees it by standards the world has set.
What does the secular world thinks of sin. They may not call it sin, but if we use the typical definition of sin as "missing the mark", or substandard in some way, we can gleam from the world it's view and compare it to the Christian view. Some of the worlds standards are borrowed from the law given to Moses, but the world has been able to make concessions and conditions to that standard of sin. For example murder, adultery, covetousness, the world does see some value in these things. (when I say the world I mean the secular world)
I have found that it is easy to offend the world. The world is changing it's standards all the time. Like God's own standards, the worlds standards are standards that no one can quite live up to. God's standards are "perfect rigorousness 100%." The worlds standards are not so harsh, and grading is on a curve where It seems some get more points than others.
So, what are the worlds standards?
The world values beauty, health, intelligence, wealth, power, and to a large degree, anyone who tends to embody these aspects in their character and physical make up.
These are the people who run the world, seated in positions of prominence from government, to science, to business and entertainment, even religion; those people who best fit the attributes required by the world are there to one degree or another.
They are rewarded with money, power, privileges, and accolades of recognition in one form or another, and despite their beliefs, their morality is often based and viewed by the worldly standards they exhibit.
The world cares less and less for anyone who does not meet it's standards. We see it every day. In fact history has displayed it over and over. The world attempting to control of even wipe-out, or exploit what it sees as sin against it's own self. The Holocaust, Slavery, Just to name two examples. ever hear of Eugenics?
Eugenics is the applied science or the bio-social engineering movement which advocates the use of practices aimed at improving the genetic composition of a human population. This was openly practiced for years right here in the US and other places around the world.
If you kill or sterilize people who are undesirable, theoretically they will not pass on their "sin" to the next generation. Retardation, deformities, genetic conditions of any kind, even character, social economic status and Ideas have been attempted to be eliminated through the use of eugenics or in more extreme ways like genocide. Even abortion falls into this group, but has it worked?
Has the world rid itself of it's undesirables that don't measure up and cause trouble? No, not really. We still have those type of people, maybe even more then ever.
Today the world is about to employ a new method. Genetic engineering. Designer babies are coming to a clinic near you. Why? the world sees this as a more humane way of reaching it's goal of perfection by attacking the problem of sin at it's very core. genetics.
Recently Professor Julian Savulescu said that "creating so-called designer babies could be considered a "moral obligation" as it makes them grow up into "ethically better children".
In theory, this, along with abortion, will rid people of all those nasty habits, possible diseases and condition, those character flaws that get in the way of a more perfect world. The rest of the undesirables the world could care less about can still be exploited.
You can read about it here if you like. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9480372/Genetically-engineering-ethical-babies-is-a-moral-obligation-says-Oxford-professor.html
One thing for sure that the world and Christians can, or should be able to agree on, is that this world is not as it was intended. It's not perfect. We have troubles....right? But, this does not answer the question. Where do you fit in to the worlds standards? How sinful are you to the world? Let's answer it.
To start with we'll need a standard. Now If I use the worlds standard; beauty, health, intelligence, wealth, power, heck I'm practically a saint. I have all these things, and I'm very humble. No really...I am! But seriously, I don't meet the worlds standards any more than many, but I have little problems traversing my place in the world by it's standards for the most part other than being a Christian, which is my biggest flaw to the world. OK..., but if I use Gods standards I'm none of these things. 
I am not 100% righteous. I sin in some way everyday. I miss God's standard every day. But I also don't fully measure up to the worlds standard either.
There is a differences however, in these two standards and being accepted. The world will not forgive you of your sins. It will place you where it sees you best fit to it's own standards. God however, offers forgiveness 100% and accepts you where you are, but some people have a bigger problem with this, they don't believe it.
What does the secular world thinks of sin. They may not call it sin, but if we use the typical definition of sin as "missing the mark", or substandard in some way, we can gleam from the world it's view and compare it to the Christian view. Some of the worlds standards are borrowed from the law given to Moses, but the world has been able to make concessions and conditions to that standard of sin. For example murder, adultery, covetousness, the world does see some value in these things. (when I say the world I mean the secular world)
I have found that it is easy to offend the world. The world is changing it's standards all the time. Like God's own standards, the worlds standards are standards that no one can quite live up to. God's standards are "perfect rigorousness 100%." The worlds standards are not so harsh, and grading is on a curve where It seems some get more points than others.
So, what are the worlds standards? The world values beauty, health, intelligence, wealth, power, and to a large degree, anyone who tends to embody these aspects in their character and physical make up.
These are the people who run the world, seated in positions of prominence from government, to science, to business and entertainment, even religion; those people who best fit the attributes required by the world are there to one degree or another.
They are rewarded with money, power, privileges, and accolades of recognition in one form or another, and despite their beliefs, their morality is often based and viewed by the worldly standards they exhibit.
The world cares less and less for anyone who does not meet it's standards. We see it every day. In fact history has displayed it over and over. The world attempting to control of even wipe-out, or exploit what it sees as sin against it's own self. The Holocaust, Slavery, Just to name two examples. ever hear of Eugenics?
Eugenics is the applied science or the bio-social engineering movement which advocates the use of practices aimed at improving the genetic composition of a human population. This was openly practiced for years right here in the US and other places around the world.
If you kill or sterilize people who are undesirable, theoretically they will not pass on their "sin" to the next generation. Retardation, deformities, genetic conditions of any kind, even character, social economic status and Ideas have been attempted to be eliminated through the use of eugenics or in more extreme ways like genocide. Even abortion falls into this group, but has it worked?
Has the world rid itself of it's undesirables that don't measure up and cause trouble? No, not really. We still have those type of people, maybe even more then ever.
Today the world is about to employ a new method. Genetic engineering. Designer babies are coming to a clinic near you. Why? the world sees this as a more humane way of reaching it's goal of perfection by attacking the problem of sin at it's very core. genetics.
Recently Professor Julian Savulescu said that "creating so-called designer babies could be considered a "moral obligation" as it makes them grow up into "ethically better children".
In theory, this, along with abortion, will rid people of all those nasty habits, possible diseases and condition, those character flaws that get in the way of a more perfect world. The rest of the undesirables the world could care less about can still be exploited.
You can read about it here if you like. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9480372/Genetically-engineering-ethical-babies-is-a-moral-obligation-says-Oxford-professor.html
One thing for sure that the world and Christians can, or should be able to agree on, is that this world is not as it was intended. It's not perfect. We have troubles....right? But, this does not answer the question. Where do you fit in to the worlds standards? How sinful are you to the world? Let's answer it.
To start with we'll need a standard. Now If I use the worlds standard; beauty, health, intelligence, wealth, power, heck I'm practically a saint. I have all these things, and I'm very humble.
No really...I am! But seriously, I don't meet the worlds standards any more than many, but I have little problems traversing my place in the world by it's standards for the most part other than being a Christian, which is my biggest flaw to the world. OK..., but if I use Gods standards I'm none of these things. I am not 100% righteous. I sin in some way everyday. I miss God's standard every day. But I also don't fully measure up to the worlds standard either.
There is a differences however, in these two standards and being accepted. The world will not forgive you of your sins. It will place you where it sees you best fit to it's own standards. God however, offers forgiveness 100% and accepts you where you are, but some people have a bigger problem with this, they don't believe it.
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You know I think I'll do just that. I will talk to God when I wake up and when I go to bed. I read the Bible about twice a week but I will try to do this every day. I think that will help me to see the world like He does. I think I'll also send you a pm if I need some encouragement. Thanks.
