The "Elect"

[Sinthesis]

they where the sons of Adam just as all Israelite are, but they where not from Jacob/Israel. Interesting question? Israel means one who wrestles with God............
I mean...... truly, dont we all do that?
Maybee they were.

'Israel' doesn't really mean 'one who wrestles with God'.

Lexicon :: Strong's H3478 - Yisra'el
Israel = "God prevails"

From שָׂרָה (H8280) and אֵל (H410)
Lexicon :: Strong's H8280 - sarah
contend, have power, contend with, persist, exert oneself, persevere
Lexicon :: Strong's H410 - 'el
god, god-like one, mighty one

The name 'Israel' is actually a type that finds it's only real fulfillment in Jesus who, as God, has prevailed over sin and death for us.

 

[OzSpen]

OK thanks. As Jesus indicated a few times that a persons faith had saved them, I will have to agree with Oz.
BTW, Oz is writing for his PhD so he may not be around for lengths of time.

Stan,

I do my best to answer briefly, but my problem is that I'm not receiving email notification that people have responded to me for most of the time. It happens occasionally, but not consistently.

'By grace are you saved through faith' is the biblical emphasis as I understand it and not, 'By regeneration are you saved before faith'. I've indicated already the biblical verses in support of this view.