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This subject came up on another Forum and I thought it would be interesting to see who in this community believes these things or not. This seems to be a “Protest” against the the Five Points of Calvinism which are TULIP.
The first point is: Conditional Election
That God, by an eternal and unchangeable purpose in Jesus Christ his Son before the foundation of the world, has determined that out of the fallen, sinful race of men, to save in Christ, for Christ’s sake, and through Christ, those who through the grace of the Holy Spirit shall believe on this his son Jesus, and shall persevere in this faith and obedience of faith, through this grace, even to the end; and, on the other hand, to leave the incorrigible and unbelieving in sin and under wrath and to condemn them as alienated from Christ, according to the word of the Gospel in John 3:36: “He that believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he that does not believe the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him,” and according to other passages of Scripture also.
I think a view of the “other passages” might be a good place to start.
The relationship between "Calvinism" (TULIP) and the Arminianism (Remonstrances) is actually the other way around.This seems to be a “Protest” against the the Five Points of Calvinism which are TULIP.
I think that was the objection that the 16th century theologians had. Scripture does speak of God's election and choosing in some places and they were concerned that Jacob had removed all mention of it.I don’t honestly see where the term “election” is mentioned in Article 1.
We don't need to "reconcile" those Scriptures. All we need to do is accept them as a mysterious process initiated by God and followed with a reconciled life. It's our proud reasoning that we need to humble before God,I think that was the objection that the 16th century theologians had. Scripture does speak of God's election and choosing in some places and they were concerned that Jacob had removed all mention of it.
That is a fair question for us today seeking the truth.
What is the relationship between the ROLE of man and the ROLE of God in saving someone?
How do we reconcile the scriptures that each side so quickly turns to without denying the word of God in our haste to defend a theology?
Look up the Heidelberg Catechism to see how PROTESTANT THEOLOGY (non-Catholic) was taught prior to the Calvinism and Arminianism debate. You will not find the 5 points of TULIP taught like they are in the later Westminster Confession or London Confession (Baptist) that came after the C&A debate.
For better or worse ... Arminianism came first and TULIP was the official response of the Protestant Church.
What is the relationship between the ROLE of man and the ROLE of God in saving someone?
How do we reconcile the scriptures that each side so quickly turns to without denying the word of God in our haste to defend a theology?
The phrase "the secret things belong to the Lord our God" originates from Deuteronomy 29:29 and emphasizes that God has revealed only what is necessary for humans to know and obey, while mysteries and hidden knowledge are reserved for Him. This verse highlights the distinction between revealed truth, which is meant for us to understand and follow, and those things that remain hidden, which are for God's own knowledge and purpose.Ok. Thanks.
The phrase "the secret things belong to the Lord our God" originates from Deuteronomy 29:29 and emphasizes that God has revealed only what is necessary for humans to know and obey, while mysteries and hidden knowledge are reserved for Him. This verse highlights the distinction between revealed truth, which is meant for us to understand and follow, and those things that remain hidden, which are for God's own knowledge and purpose.
Regenerated unto saving faith and salvation thru and by the Holy SpiritSo what is your point?
Do you agree with my post?
Here it is again.
God’s role is He provides the means by which man can be saved.
Man’s role is to believe and be regenerated.
Then after regeneration man is to live his new life according to the Spirit because he now has a new divine nature that is empowered by the Spirit.
Regenerated unto saving faith and salvation thru and by the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit first has to do the regeneration, grant sinner saving faithHere is what I posted.
God’s role is He provides the means by which man can be saved.
Man’s role is to believe and be regenerated.
Then after regeneration man is to live his new life according to the Spirit because he now has a new divine nature that is empowered by the Spirit.
Do you agree that the regenerated person is called to live his new life according to the Spirit?