Without a temptation it isn't a sin.
Technichally, because cause and effect.
Your "intention" made it a sin.
Intention to steal.
So you are actually supporting the fact that there is un intentional sin. Because the theif in the example does not know of God's existence or His commands.
Just because he doesn't know God forbids stealing does not mean God didn't forbid stealing.
Do you know what lust is ?
Just wanting someone else's stuff is coveting, but taking it is done intentionally.
Wow! You cite another unintentional sin! Some people just get the desire, without control. And many lusters don't believe in God.
You prove the existence of un intentional sin yet again. WOOPS!!
But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin:..."
Nothing about intent.
And, even if it did, how do you know this happens EVERY time someone sins? Right, you don't.
Before you became Christian, were you aware that lying, stealing, etc. were sins against God?
Yes, as I was born with a conscience.
Having a concsience does not mean you knew for fact that God existed.
You just FELT your way through what was right and wrong before you realized there was the Solid Standard for morals.
So before you were Christian, you sinned without intending to break God's Commands.
Correct, as there is no sin in God, who is the light we should be walking in (1 John 1:7)
So you have no EVIDENCE that that's referring to two different types of people, you just have a conclusion from a starting belief.
The gospel is "good news".
I see no doctrine in it whatsoever.
That depends on what you mean by the term "DOCTRINE".
What do you think it means?
Then why couldn't you say you had no sin ?
Had or have?
All sins are intentional,
Nope, refuted.
That has to do with s**. That debunks your claim.
and enticement that must be either resisted or not resisted.
If the person is not aware they are breaking God's commands, the sin in not on purpose.
What does John write in 1 John 2:3-6 ?..."And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
Yes, people who do not actively live a Godly life do not know God.
Nowhere does this mean that saints don't accidentally sin once in a while, like seeing a woman and then a random bad desire jumps into their brain.
The sinner will likely entertain the thought, but the saint will be quick to get it out.
Your "perfect humans" teaching would imply that nobody is a Born Again Christian. Even you are not saved, not "walking in the Light", if your teaching is true.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked."
John says those who know Him should be walking as He walked.
Nobody is good but God. Literally see what Jesus said. How does "perfect humans" stand up to that verse? Right, it CRUMBLES like any untrue teaching does under the Bible.
Notice the, "EVEN AS". So we should AIM to walk like Christ walked.
There is no gurantee that we can always avoid sin.
Can we go sinless for a long span of time? Yes.
For as long as we are saved and alive? Unlikely.
Your "perfect humans" doctrine seems to be a half truth.
Yes. NOBODY is good but God alone. Jesus was and is and always will be God.
Which ones, besides the Words in the OT?
before there was an ability to be crucified with Him, or be reborn of God's seed.
How do you know that? How do you know WHEN Jesus spoke those words?
Pretty sure the romans crucified people some years before Jesus came to earth.
I won't debunk what was true at the time it was written.
Nobody was walking in the Spirit instead of the flesh yet.
That couldn't happen until the resurrection of Christ.
So are you saying that everyone before Jesus' time had their destiny stuck on "eternal torment" ??
Those you kindly label as "slippers", are not walking as Jesus walked.
No gurantee they would be forever able to keep that walk.
The saint will get likely get up from his slip up but the sinner will want to wallow in sin.
Besides, your position rests on the BELIEF that all sin is intentional.
So that means many non-Christians in third world countries never sin because they are unaware of God or His Commands.
Which is false, because your claim is incorrect.
Absolutely, though it isn't a work of the Law that Paul wrote against.
So humans save themselves by getting baptized??! What madness. God saves us. We do not
do ANYTHING to save ourselves.
The notion that we can do actions to save ourselves is straight out of pagan religions.
OR
do you believe that God is baptizing us, not ourselves or other people?
When you are dunked, who or Who is doing the dunking?
Nope, circumcision, dietary rules, sabbath keeping, feast keeping, tithing, mixed garment materials, etc., have nothing to do with NT salvation.
I mean any works not just OT Israelite works.
I have faith that baptism in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins washed away my past sin.
Ok
I have faith that a true, real repentance from sin makes a man a non-sinner.
Guranteed to never sin ever? Or likelihood? Biblically, the latter. Vain hope, the former.
Why then, would Jesus warn us with..."Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
That verse refers to Christians being saved and doing great things, but later they willfully refused to follow God at some point.
Mabye God wanted some of them to move away from their family, but they prioitize family over God. Or mabye God wants some to quit a job and move, but they love a job more than God. These are examples, both of which almost certainly happened in the past.
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Yes, those who love things on earth more than God, especially those who are aware of Him and His laws, work iniquity.
So you have not proven "perfect humans", but in fact, contradicted it, as shown by your citing of "lust".
