then by what authority do you tell me my gen lifetime . wont see the coming of the LordThere is no scripture telling any generation what they won’t see.
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then by what authority do you tell me my gen lifetime . wont see the coming of the LordThere is no scripture telling any generation what they won’t see.
FYI any member can edit their own post by clicking on edit at the bottom of their post, but only given a short amount of time to do so. Just thought I would let you know since you are kind of new hereI didn’t ask any question. I was commenting on your response to jerry63935. It’s also apparent that you have forum permissions to edit your posts after the fact without acknowledgment. Enjoy
Nope! I never said that. I’ve clearly said over and over again the the second coming and the Resurrection have not occurredYou have been proclaiming through many of the threads that all things were fulfilled in 70AD. Care to explain that?
The word “angel” is messenger. Do you know this? There is no “sweeping” in the sentence. There is no instant in the sentence either unless you mean the Resurrection. Gathering his elect IS sharing the Gospel. The timing of that verse is perfect. No troubles nor tribulations follow that verse. They are all before.I agree the resurrection of the dead has not happened yet.
Gathering of the elect is that of the dead and those still alive at His coming, unless you reject what is written in Matthew 24:29-31 and Rev 14:14-20 as this is God sending out His angels to sweep the earth not to evangelize.
Please show me the scripture for this.Gathering his elect IS sharing the Gospel.
Daniel 12:2 does not give the order, but that of what is also written in John 5:28-29 that happens on the last day.Daniel 12:2
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2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt 2seperate resurrections 2 separate judgments
Yes I realize that- thanks. And after that set time period, a member can still edit their post- but it will annotated- “Edited...”. I’m very familiar with XenForo. In-line moderation after the fact without annotation is made possible within certain permission sets. I noticed that Dorothy Mae edited her post without notice after I had already quoted what she said before editing. What I said quoted in post #67 is different than what now appears in her Post # 66. She actually changed it twice.FYI any member can edit their own post by clicking on edit at the bottom of their post, but only given a short amount of time to do so. Just thought I would let you know since you are kind of new here
wonderful i am sure you would never argue that would break tosI am not going to argue with you on this.
He shall send out his messengers and gather his believers from all the world, right. Notice there’s no meeting the air there. The Resurrection is also not then. No dead being raised.Please show me the scripture for this.
Was it not you that said all things of Revelation are in the past? I agree the second coming and the resurrection has not occurred yet as that is not in question.Nope! I never said that. I’ve clearly said over and over again the the second coming and the Resurrection have not occurred
No answer to my question so I will ask one more time.The word “angel” is messenger. Do you know this? There is no “sweeping” in the sentence. There is no instant in the sentence either unless you mean the Resurrection. Gathering his elect IS sharing the Gospel. The timing of that verse is perfect. No troubles nor tribulations follow that verse. They are all before.
I’m allowed to edit my post even after you quote it which I didn’t notice and am not required to notice as far as I know.Yes I realize that- thanks. And after that set time period, a member can still edit their post- but it will annotated- “Edited...”. I’m very familiar with XenForo. In-line moderation after the fact without annotation is made possible within certain permission sets. I noticed that Dorothy Mae edited her post without notice after I had already quoted what she said before editing. What I said quoted in post #67 is different than what now appears in her Post # 66. She actually changed it twice.
OK, thanks for letting me know.Yes I realize that- thanks. And after that set time period, a member can still edit their post- but it will annotated- “Edited...”. I’m very familiar with XenForo. In-line moderation after the fact without annotation is made possible within certain permission sets. I noticed that Dorothy Mae edited her post without notice after I had already quoted what she said before editing. What I said quoted in post #67 is different than what now appears in her Post # 66. She actually changed it twice.
That’s fine. I simply made note of the fact. It doesn’t make for honest interactions though, when someone can say something, then insist they said something else entirely. In the least it’s discourteous, if not dishonest.I’m allowed to edit my post even after you quote it which I didn’t notice and am not required to notice as far as I know.
The Church, which represents the bride of Christ, will face seeing much tribulation as it will be hard to bare seeing Gods wrath poured out on the unjust as those who are anointed by God's Holy Spirit are sent out to preach to them before we enter into the kingdom of God (New Jerusalem). There are many false teachings that teach we are taken out of here before some seven year Great Tribulation, but there is no scripture that speaks of a seven year Great Tribulation, but only 3 1/2 years. Some also teach that after Rev Chapter 4 the Church is no longer here on earth. If this were the case then why did Jesus say that those who endure until the end will be saved. The end of what, the end of days or as scripture calls it that great and terrible day of the Lord when final judgment will be passed as the Sheep are separated from the goats and the goats are cast into the lake of fire with Satan, the beast and false prophets.i realize this goes against the grain of the gurus but after chapter 3 in rev the church is no more
As an Admin you can easily look at the history of any post and see when and who edited it, what it said before and what it was changed to.OK, thanks for letting me know.
Even if it wasn't against the ToS I never argue the word, but only give my understanding. Arguing only causes division.wonderful i am sure you would never argue that would break tos
you can stand at the white throne judgment if ya want toThe Great White Throne judgment
of courseEven if it wasn't against the ToS I never argue the word, but only give my understanding. Arguing only causes division.
No, never. Thanks for asking.Was it not you that said all things of Revelation are in the past?
Me too.I agree the second coming and the resurrection has not occurred yet as that is not in question.
Don’t you think sharing gospel is gathering people for him? I could ask you to show me in that verse where his elect are swept up into the clouds. The reference by Paul is clearly the Resurrection as the dead rise first, so that’s no reference. The angels aren’t gathering the elect at the Resurrection, Where is the scripture that says the angels gather the elect into the clouds? There are no angels gathering in Paul’s letter.No answer to my question so I will ask one more time.
Where is the scripture that says, Gathering his elect IS sharing the Gospel.
But that’s because you’ve been though a particular theology. There’s no mention of the resurrection of the dead there. None. In Paul’s reference, there’s no mention of gathering which kind of silly like a sheep dog. The trumpets sound and the dead are raised first. No gathering.I know the word angel means messenger, but in this instance of gathering the saints up to Christ has nothing to do with evangelizing others.
You are only giving one isolated scripture using it apart from all the other ones that speak about us being gathered up to meet Him in the air.He shall send out his messengers and gather his believers from all the world, right. Notice there’s no meeting the air there. The Resurrection is also not then. No dead being raised.