What you believe is not Trinitarianism.
Why? Do you really think people can believe whatever they want and be saved?
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Read the Bible for salvation.
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That is precisely what that first line is saying. The Creeds are summations of biblical truths which one must hold to be a part of the Christian faith.
Then go to the source, namely the Saviour himself in the Gospels.
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Do you not realize that the Creeds were developed in a time when illiteracy was high and the average person had no access to a Bible? The Creeds were easily memorized summations of biblical truths.
Anyway, the point is moot. The Athanasian Creed is Trinitarian, so you simply cannot believe what it says to be correct since you are not Trinitarian.
I follow Jesus, not a Pope and if you want the best teacher, go to the author, redeemer, and Saviour and put your trust in Him. The Pope cannot save you from your sins, but Jesus can and will if you put your faith in him and none other, then follow Jesus in obedience all the days of your life. May God bless you.
I don't follow a Pope either.
Your statements here are fallaciously begging the question as to who Jesus is. The most important question a man can be asked is found in the gospels: "But who do you say that I am?" You say one must put their trust in Jesus for salvation, and you are correct, but which Jesus? The one you believe in is different from the one I believe, and the one I believe in is the one found in the Athanasian and Nicene Creeds, and hence, in the Bible.The "isms" are simply ways of stating what one believes without having to state everything relevant to that belief. Similar to the Creeds, they are summations, albeit in one word.
These two posts, to me, appear to be implicit admissions that you now don't believe the Athanasian Creed to be correct. Is that about right?
Back to the inquisition. Thank goodness they do not burn people at the stake anymore. You can go back on ignore, good luck with the Pope's Jesus, carry on with Catholicism's Mariology another 'ism and I will follow Jesus the Saviour of the world. Wishing you all the best.I don't follow a Pope either.
The "isms" are simply ways of stating what one believes without having to state everything relevant to that belief. Similar to the Creeds, they are summations, albeit in one word.
These two posts, to me, appear to be implicit admissions that you now don't believe the Athanasian Creed to be correct. Is that about right?
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That is one of the main problems these days, people just want to be right and not have to justify their beliefs. That is a worldly attitude that has crept into the Church and is very unbecoming of a Christian. Christians are to be truth-seekers and truth-tellers, and not a part of cancel culture.
GodsGrace
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I read the article Oz.
This is happening all over.
Atheists such as Harris will be happy to read this...
he claims we don't need God to have morals...
Let's see how long that lasts....2 generaltions? Three? Not more.
And then there'll be some type of breakdown in society.
GodsGrace
CF Ambassador
Everybody is getting the omicron virus.
No big deal.
Headache, some fever, t hen it passes.
Just like the flu or cold.
wondering,
Harris's morality without God gave us Hitler's Nazis and 6 million slaughtered, Idi Amin, Pol Pot and their genocides. Could it be associated with the mass killings in USA? It's also giving us the killing fields of abortion when we abandon God's absolute values of life and death. I believe we are in the midst of the breakdown of society.
In every state of Australia we have legalized euthanasia (voluntary assisted dying). We have a massive devaluation of the value of human life already.
Have you had a bout of Covid Omicron? Thankfully I've had 2 vaccinations and a booster shot and missed Covid.
Oz
Yet at the beginning of the good news sent into the world in the 1st century the world lived in "unrestrained" sin.
Also why would someone who claims they are atheists be concerned about morals? Are they seeking a better judgment by attempting to do good? Yet according to the scriptures they are violation of the greatest commandment.
Despite what some people might state their actions speak different.
According to the head of the body of Christ.
THIS IS ETERNAL LIFE
that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
The test to see if your in the faith Paul spoke of.
Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?
“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,
D-D-W
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You do know Jeremiah was talking about the Millennial Messianic kingdom, right? That time is not yet.
He was talking about a new covenant God would make which was also spoken of in Hebrews 8.
How does God write this new covenant on the hearts of the people?
I believe in the Trinity OK. The problem is elsewhere.
You believe in one person (who uses three different titles). That is, by definition, not the Trinity. The Trinity is always defined, at very basic level, as one God who has always existed as three distinct persons. Each person is fully and truly God in and of themselves, but the Father is not the Son and neither of them are the Holy Spirit.
D-D-W
2024 Supporter
In part, yes. But the part you quoted will only happen at the end of time.
Thru the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. It is a long slow process.