The Victorious Christ

[Robert Pate]

you told me that 5 minutes ago robert.
Im not suffering from dementia.
i dont want your advice

God loves you and sent Jesus into the world to save you by dying on the cross for your sins.

If you reject what God has done for you in Jesus Christ, you will die in your sins and will be judged and condemned to hell.

 

[jaybo]

im sorry but i dont believe in my sins nor need or want anyone dying for them.
The whole notion is absurd to me.
i get the gist of hell being on the flipside of every thing jesus suggests but thats not how i make decisions.
If you say to me 'do this or else'- i will take the 'or else' every time
i cant be bullied.
isnt jesus wonderful?
Do as i tell you or.......hellfire forever.
wow such a loving god.
thankyou no

Some one has already died for your sins: Jesus Christ. Whether or not you think it's absurd is irrelevant.

You make this boast: if you say to me 'do this or else'- i will take the 'or else' every time. Okay: reject Jesus as your Savior. So now you must choose the opposite! Or stop making absurd statements.
Isn't Jesus wonderful? Yes, He is!

 

[jaybo]

plase stop quoting the bible at me.
its idiotic and demented after ive explained my position and it is anyway frankly

This is meaningless at best, incoherent at worst. If you can't stand what the Bible says that says more about you than it does about the Bible.

 

[jaybo]

plase stop quoting the bible at me.
its idiotic and demented after ive explained my position and it is anyway frankly

Your bio shows that you joined yesterday 01/14/23. Why did you join a Christian forum if you can't tolerate the truth?

 

[jaybo]

hearing the bible quoted at me isnt like getting burnt or something, its just annoying.
Oh god says this or jesus says that.
Its so childish. im talking to you not god. What's your opinion.
You can be an adult and have an opinion unsupported by god, you know.
i dont even think thats a 'sin'

Why are you on a Christian forum? Do you think your anger at the Christian faith will convince anyone? If so, you are seriously deluded.

 

[jaybo]

you all think jesus is a great guy. But what if he isnt?
What kind of person have you locked in eternity with?
what if im right?
What if you get trapped in the clouds forever with a charlie manson in a halo?
haha that would be poetic justice, jesus told you the violent stuff he does beforehand afterall

you all think jesus is a great guy. But what if he isnt? He is!
What kind of person have you locked in eternity with? The Son of God and Savior of humanity.
what if im right? You're not; you're wrong.
What if you get trapped in the clouds forever with a charlie manson in a halo? What if you get trapped in hell forever with Charles Manson?

That would be an eternal tragedy for you!!!

It's not too late for your to repent of your unbelief and accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior!!!

 

[for_his_glory]

plase stop quoting the bible at me.
its idiotic and demented after ive explained my position and it is anyway frankly

We will not quit teaching you about the love of Christ and how much He wants to love you. Did not your own parents bring you up telling you to do this or do that in order to teach you moral values as His greatest commandment is love and that God would that none should perish, but to turn back to His love for us.

 

[for_his_glory]

i get that the bible says bad things about unbelievers, every cult does.
That's brainwashing 101.
They are threatened by men like me who shatter their nonsense with some solid horsesense.
Jesus is no different. Same spiel

We do not sit around drinking the Kool-Aid following the deception of man as we have chosen to follow Christ in whom you know nothing about and as long as you stay a member here we will witness and testify to you of who Christ is.

I challenge you to really pray and read the book of John in the Bible and then tell us where Jesus is evil and condemns people to hell fire.

 

[for_his_glory]

you all think jesus is a great guy. But what if he isnt?
What kind of person have you locked in eternity with?
what if im right?
What if you get trapped in the clouds forever with a charlie manson in a halo?
haha that would be poetic justice, jesus told you the violent stuff he does beforehand afterall

We know the love of Christ who has proven himself to us by applying His word to our own personal lives as we walk by faith not by sight to know all of God's promises to us are very real.

You are no different then any of us or anyone who even claims to be an athieist as many of us walked in unbelief at one time following the lust of the flesh going after worldly pleasures and even some who were athieist who ended up bowing their knee to Christ accepting Him as their Lord and Savior. Not saying you are an athieist as you do believe God and Jesus exist, but go search videos of athieist who bowed their knees to Christ as they are powerful.

You are not here by chance, but because God is calling you, but yet refuse to hear His calling.

 

[for_his_glory]

heres an idea im going to create a people then im going to have a saviour of them.
A saviour from what?
i dunno i'll think of something,
Why not create them free of whatever they need saving from? problem solved.
shh im getting to the good part, im going to be the saviour.
the saviour of the people i created who only needed saving because i made things that way.

And millions of people worship a god like that? smh
people arent that stupid.
They fear the alternative

Do you really think we take God's word at face value without knowing what He teaches us is true. No, we prove that of what God teaches by applying His very words to our own individual life to know for a surety that God has our best interest at heart. If one does not seek Him then they will never know Him.

 

[for_his_glory]

im not angry at the christian faith just saddened..
I considered myself a christian 30 years ago afterall
jesus on the other hand i despise as strongly as its possible to despise something.
Not because i have the devil in me,
but because of what he has done , is doing and will continue to do.
i hope for your sake jesus isnt the sicko i suspect he is.
ive made myself as ready for hell as one can and importantly with my principles intact

Just what has Jesus done to you that is so bad that you have turned away from Him. This would be a good place to start in getting to know you better and why you are so angry with Him.

 

[GodsGrace]

im not angry at the christian faith just saddened..
I considered myself a christian 30 years ago afterall
jesus on the other hand i despise as strongly as its possible to despise something.
Not because i have the devil in me,
but because of what he has done , is doing and will continue to do.
i hope for your sake jesus isnt the sicko i suspect he is.
ive made myself as ready for hell as one can and importantly with my principles intact

I'm saddened because you won't answer my question. Is it too difficult or something you've never considered or you just want to rant about yourself?

 

[GodsGrace]

im sorry wondering i didnt see your question.
What is it?

I respect that you're not a believer.
Sounds like you've thought of it for some time.

What I'd like to know is this,,
If some kind of metaphysical being did not create everything, how did it all come about, or start?

How do you make sense of what we see around us?

 

[Robert Pate]

jesus created it and the creation is wonderful
well done jesus.
As i said earlier i believe but i want no part of christianity

I can understand why you want no part of Christianity. It is a mess. But how about your relationship with Jesus Christ?

 

[GodsGrace]

jesus created it and the creation is wonderful
well done jesus.
As i said earlier i believe but i want no part of christianity

It's difficult to understand if you're mad at God or at Christianity.

I asked you because I think there's a good chance that maybe, during your lifetime, the battle between science and faith might end.

It seems that younger scientists are more theistic than the older ones. Basically because they're running out of theories as to the creation and they might have to eventually accept an intelligent creator.

These are very exciting times.

 

[jaybo]

im not angry at the christian faith just saddened..
I considered myself a christian 30 years ago afterall
jesus on the other hand i despise as strongly as its possible to despise something.
Not because i have the devil in me,
but because of what he has done , is doing and will continue to do.
i hope for your sake jesus isnt the sicko i suspect he is.
ive made myself as ready for hell as one can and importantly with my principles intact

It's too bad that you turned your back on the Savior and will spend the rest of eternity in hell.

It's clear that something happened to you that made you deny Christ. What happened? And why are you on a Christian forum? Are you subconsciously seeking the truth?

 

[jaybo]

We know the love of Christ who has proven himself to us by applying His word to our own personal lives as we walk by faith not by sight to know all of God's promises to us are very real.

You are no different then any of us or anyone who even claims to be an athieist as many of us walked in unbelief at one time following the lust of the flesh going after worldly pleasures and even some who were athieist who ended up bowing their knee to Christ accepting Him as their Lord and Savior. Not saying you are an athieist as you do believe God and Jesus exist, but go search videos of athieist who bowed their knees to Christ as they are powerful.

You are not here by chance, but because God is calling you, but yet refuse to hear His calling.

You wrote, "... even some who were atheist who ended up bowing their knee to Christ accepting Him as their Lord and Savior". That includes me! I was a serious atheist until I was healed by God's grace in the hospital when a pastor prayed "Jesus, heal this man". At that instant I was physically, emotionally, and spiritually healed. I immediately became a Christian and have remained so -- passionately -- for 45 years.

 

[jaybo]

im pretty sure ive made my beliefs clear. I dont understand the confusion

There is no confusion. People, including myself, wonder why you are on a Christian forum. Perhaps your spirit is searching for a new life in Christ?

 

[Hopeful]

he created me without an off switch for starters
thats so horrifying i neednt go on

An "off switch" to turn what off?
He did in fact use His "off switch" in order to convert me from a hater to a lover.
He turned off the drunk, druggie, adulterer, and rebirthed a sober man with a true heart.
I thank God for that, in the name of Jesus Christ.

 

[Hopeful]

jesus created it and the creation is wonderful in oyur area.
well done jesus.
As i said earlier i believe but i want no part of christianity

I can see that the devil has succeeded in covering the true Christianity in your area.
The poser, false church, is all you envision.
A real one is still here though, for those wishing for true freedom.