Thousand year day teachings gaining steam

[Thekjv]

What is your source for this as the 1000 years is only mentioned one time in scripture found in Rev 20.

I do not believe in a pretrib Rapture, but that needs to be another thread.

2 PETE 3:
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Gen 1:

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
As I stated in my post imo there is a possibility that the first 4 days may not be 24 hour days because God did not need them to be 24 hour days. and there were no sun and moon before day four. imo the sun and moon was needed for mans biological body. not Gods work.

 

[daninthelionsden]

One of the tests that I like is the Berean principle where one let's scripture interpret scripture. The Thousand year day seems to pass this. Other explanations seems so subject to human opinion/interpretation. The examples of Adam and those who followed him up to the flood all dying within a heavenly day was just as God said they would.

 

[Thekjv]

Humans are told in Gen 6:3 our lifespan is 120years.
In the NT we are told if we believe in Jesus Christ we can live eternally (forever)
We are told in 2 Pete 3:8 one of our days is as a 1000 years with God.
If one can not relate to 2 Pete 3:8 how can they relate to the belief in Jesus Christ and going from living 120 to living forever?

 

[kvby66]

The internet is quite abuzz with 2023/24 being the start of the Great Tribulation with His return being 2030/31. The Freemasons seem to be in a hurry with their diabolic agenda as well. We are indeed in times unlike any other. Once the pre-trib fallacy explodes then the great falling away follows. Times are going to be tough. We must not run and hide, but rather, stand up and fight. Run for office. Fight them in the courts. Etc

There is no 1000 year reign in the future. It's a misinterpretation of Revelation chapter 20. Like Jesus needs 1000 years to get things under control. I would probably measure that time in milliseconds.

A little 1000 year background. Coincidence? Not.

David's name means beloved.
David became King of Judah in 1003 B.C.. His reign in Judah was 33 years. This is exactly 1000 years to the birth of Jesus. Jesus is the antitype of the promised Davidic line in which God promised a seed. Jesus was born a King from the seed of David as promised by God. Solomon's name means peace. A prophet from God gave Solomon another name called Jedidiah, which means beloved of the Lord. Solomon began his reign on 970 B.C. Solomon was known for building the temple. 1000 years later the temple symbolically was destroyed by Jesus and a new temple was raised after His resurrection (His body). 1000 years after Solomon's death the temple was completely destroyed by the Romans in 70 A.D..

Zachariah visited by Gabriel 4 B.C
Jesus born 3 B.C.
Jesus at 30 years old begins His ministry. Age of 30 was beginning of priesthood service.
Jesus ministry lasted 3 to 3 1/2 years.
Jesus resurrection in year 30 A.D.

40 years later temple destroyed by Romans in 70 A.D.

In the end of the 1400's B.C.,
a man (exalted Son of man) Who obviously was Jesus, appeared to Joshua as Israel was preparing to finally enter the promised land after wandering the wilderness for 40 years. This occurred approximately 1000 years before the silent period between the old testament and new testament.

The intertestamental period is the period of time between the events of the old testament books and the New Testament. Traditionally, it is considered to cover roughly four hundred years, spanning the ministry of Malachi (c. 420 BC) to the appearance of John the Baptist in the early 1st century AD. It is known as the "400 Silent Years" because it was a span where no new prophets were raised and God revealed nothing new to his people

Revelation 20 speaks about from the time Joshua entered the promised land to the silent period. A man shows up as the Commander. 1400 ish b.c.

Revelation 20:4 NKJV
And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

This refers to the prophets that the Holy Spirit was in. First resurrection. Second resurrection is from the point of Pentecost after Jesus's resurrection. The prophets all spoke of Jesus in a hidden revelation. They were all persecuted and many were killed (beheaded)

Following that in Revelation 20 books are opened. That refers to the revelation of Jesus within the old testament.

Psalm 40:7 NKJV
Then I said, "Behold, I come; In the scroll of the book it is written of me.

John 5:39 NKJV
You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

Romans 3:21,24,28 NKJV
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, [24] being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, [28] Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.

Acts 3:18 NKJV
But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled.

Acts 10:43 NKJV
To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins."

The books of the old testament were opened to reveal Christ. Revelation.

Luke 24:32,44-45 NKJV
And they said to one another, "Did not our heart burn within us while He talked with us on the road, and while He opened the Scriptures to us?" [44] Then He said to them, "These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me." [45] And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.

Jesus opened the books to their understanding.

BTW.

From Joshua's meeting with the Commander of the armies of God, the Angel of the Lord to the last prophet Malachi is 1000 years. 400 years of silence.

David was crowned King of Israel 1000 years before Jesus was born. Jesus was born a King. David's reign over all of Israel was 33 years. Jesus lived 33 years. David died, and Solomon rose to the throne exactly 1000 years before the Jesus' death, resurrection and exaltation to the throne of God, (971 BC to AD 30). (The 40 years of each of their reigns, in turn, fall forward 1000 years exactly onto the generation of Christ, and onto the generation after Christ that ended with the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70.

Clouds-of-heaven.com

 

[daninthelionsden]

There is no 1000 year reign in the future. It's a misinterpretation of Revelation chapter 20. Like Jesus needs 1000 years to get things under control. I would probably measure that time in milliseconds.

A little 1000 year background. Coincidence? Not.

David's name means beloved.
David became King of Judah in 1003 B.C.. His reign in Judah was 33 years. This is exactly 1000 years to the birth of Jesus. Jesus is the antitype of the promised Davidic line in which God promised a seed. Jesus was born a King from the seed of David as promised by God. Solomon's name means peace. A prophet from God gave Solomon another name called Jedidiah, which means beloved of the Lord. Solomon began his reign on 970 B.C. Solomon was known for building the temple. 1000 years later the temple symbolically was destroyed by Jesus and a new temple was raised after His resurrection (His body). 1000 years after Solomon's death the temple was completely destroyed by the Romans in 70 A.D..

Zachariah visited by Gabriel 4 B.C
Jesus born 3 B.C.
Jesus at 30 years old begins His ministry. Age of 30 was beginning of priesthood service.
Jesus ministry lasted 3 to 3 1/2 years.
Jesus resurrection in year 30 A.D.

40 years later temple destroyed by Romans in 70 A.D.

In the end of the 1400's B.C.,
a man (exalted Son of man) Who obviously was Jesus, appeared to Joshua as Israel was preparing to finally enter the promised land after wandering the wilderness for 40 years. This occurred approximately 1000 years before the silent period between the old testament and new testament.

The intertestamental period is the period of time between the events of the old testament books and the New Testament. Traditionally, it is considered to cover roughly four hundred years, spanning the ministry of Malachi (c. 420 BC) to the appearance of John the Baptist in the early 1st century AD. It is known as the "400 Silent Years" because it was a span where no new prophets were raised and God revealed nothing new to his people

Revelation 20 speaks about from the time Joshua entered the promised land to the silent period. A man shows up as the Commander. 1400 ish b.c.

Revelation 20:4 NKJV
And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

This refers to the prophets that the Holy Spirit was in. First resurrection. Second resurrection is from the point of Pentecost after Jesus's resurrection. The prophets all spoke of Jesus in a hidden revelation. They were all persecuted and many were killed (beheaded)

Following that in Revelation 20 books are opened. That refers to the revelation of Jesus within the old testament.

Psalm 40:7 NKJV
Then I said, "Behold, I come; In the scroll of the book it is written of me.

John 5:39 NKJV
You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

Romans 3:21,24,28 NKJV
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, [24] being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, [28] Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.

Acts 3:18 NKJV
But those things which God foretold by the mouth of all His prophets, that the Christ would suffer, He has thus fulfilled.

Acts 10:43 NKJV
To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins."

The books of the old testament were opened to reveal Christ. Revelation.

Luke 24:32,44-45 NKJV
And they said to one another, "Did not our heart burn within us while He talked with us on the road, and while He opened the Scriptures to us?" [44] Then He said to them, "These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me." [45] And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures.

Jesus opened the books to their understanding.

BTW.

From Joshua's meeting with the Commander of the armies of God, the Angel of the Lord to the last prophet Malachi is 1000 years. 400 years of silence.

David was crowned King of Israel 1000 years before Jesus was born. Jesus was born a King. David's reign over all of Israel was 33 years. Jesus lived 33 years. David died, and Solomon rose to the throne exactly 1000 years before the Jesus' death, resurrection and exaltation to the throne of God, (971 BC to AD 30). (The 40 years of each of their reigns, in turn, fall forward 1000 years exactly onto the generation of Christ, and onto the generation after Christ that ended with the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70.

Clouds-of-heaven.com

Interesting, but it still sounds like your interpreting the thousand years in Revelations by opinion/human understanding. Why does the Lord have to settle things in mili-seconds rather than granting grace of time(1000 years) to the Earth's inhabitants? Why lead Moses and his bunch across the wilderness 40 years? Why not handle it in mili-seconds?

 

[for_his_glory]

2 PETE 3:
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Gen 1:

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
As I stated in my post imo there is a possibility that the first 4 days may not be 24 hour days because God did not need them to be 24 hour days. and there were no sun and moon before day four. imo the sun and moon was needed for mans biological body. not Gods work.

But yet none of these scriptures have anything to do with a literal or symbolic 1000 years in Rev 20.

A 1000 years in Rev 20 is IMO not literal years, but only symbolic of a certain period of time as nowhere else in scripture other than Rev 20 does it mention a literal 1000 year reign of Christ here on earth, but symbolic as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8.

 

[for_his_glory]

Rev 6:9-11 and Rev 20:4 were only visions John was being shown as it is only the souls that are reigning with Christ in heaven as John 3:13 says no one other than Christ has ever ascended up to heaven. The only thing that goes back to God when this physical body dies and goes back to the dust of the ground is the very breath/spirit that made us a living soul as the soul can never die, Genesis 22:7; Ecc 12:7; Matthew 10:28. Those souls John was being shown are reigning with Christ in Heaven for a time until all of God's enemies become His footstool as Christ who sits at the right hand of the Father reigns with Him in heaven until the end comes on the last day, John 6:40, when Christ returns and establishes His kingdom here on earth and takes His seat on the throne of David in the New Jerusalem, Isaiah 66:1; Matthew 5:33-37; Hebrews 10:12,13.

Many look for a physical kingdom here on earth and read into Rev 20 that Christ will reign for a thousand years here on earth with His saints, but truth is that Christ has always reigned with God from before the foundation of the world and for all eternity, John 1:1-4; 1Peter 1:18-23. It was Satan's pride that caused the nations to sin against God as Satan ruled evil over the nations, Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezekiel 28:13-17, but yet the nations have always been Gods kingdoms as in the end of days He will separate the sheep from the goats/wheat from the tares. In Rev 11:14-19 the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever. What this means is that Gods longsuffering and patience will come to an end, 2 Peter 3:9, 10, as His great wrath is poured out on the earth. All His enemies will become His footstool, then will He send Christ and His army of angels to destroy all that is an abomination to Him casting it all into the lake of fire. Jesus will at that time establish His kingdom here on earth as God makes new the heaven and earth ushering down the new Jerusalem as we will then be with the Lord forever, Luke 19:12; 1Corinthians 15:20-26; 2 Peter 3:10; Colossians 1:13; John 18:36, Rev 21:1.

Everything from Rev 11:14 that starts the third woe with the seventh trumpet sounding and continues through Rev 20:15 comes quickly in Gods timing, even though man tries to put a certain timing to the beginning and end of Gods great wrath. We inherit the kingdoms of God from the day of our Spiritual rebirth, John 3:3-6; Romans 10:9,10 as they have been prepared for us from the foundation of the world, Matthew 25:34. We reign with Christ here on this present earth as Gods grace gives us all power and authority through that of Christ Jesus for it is not our power and authority, but is Christ's that works in us and through us as a faithful servant as He is in us and we in Him.

 

[Thekjv]

But yet none of these scriptures have anything to do with a literal or symbolic 1000 years in Rev 20.

A 1000 years in Rev 20 is IMO not literal years, but only symbolic of a certain period of time as nowhere else in scripture other than Rev 20 does it mention a literal 1000 year reign of Christ here on earth, but symbolic as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8.

I never said it had anything to do with what you are posting in Rev. The OP did not mention Rev it mention a 1000yrs is like a day to the Lord.

 

[for_his_glory]

Humans are told in Gen 6:3 our lifespan is 120years.
In the NT we are told if we believe in Jesus Christ we can live eternally (forever)
We are told in 2 Pete 3:8 one of our days is as a 1000 years with God.
If one can not relate to 2 Pete 3:8 how can they relate to the belief in Jesus Christ and going from living 120 to living forever?

One is natural physical death and the other one is eternal Spiritual life as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment, Hebrews 9:27, as when those who are in Christ have physically died they will be raised on the last day being caught up to Christ and spend eternity with Him, Matthew 24:29-37; 1 Corinthians 15:51-58. It's not this fleshly body that will be raised from the grave as flesh and blood can not inherit the Kingdom of God, but that we will be changed from being corruptible to incorruptible, mortal to immortal. None of us knows what we will look like, but that we will be like Christ in all His glory, 1John 3:2.
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Even the numbering 1000 years as a day is yet of God's timing and not our timing and also symbolic like that in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8.

 

[for_his_glory]

I never said it had anything to do with what you are posting in Rev. The OP did not mention Rev it mention a 1000yrs is like a day to the Lord.

Oops, my bad. For some reason I have my mind set on the 1000 yrs in Rev 20. This thread has sprouted many branches and hard to keep up at times.

 

[Thekjv]

Oops, my bad. For some reason I have my mind set on the 1000 yrs in Rev 20. This thread has sprouted many branches and hard to keep up at times.

If this language means you are trying to come down to level then you missed.On every forum people like you want to argue against anyone that thinks different they they do.

 

[for_his_glory]

If this language means you are trying to come down to level then you missed.On every forum people like you want to argue against anyone that thinks different they they do.

To know something about me, I never argue with others, but discuss with them by sharing scripture and the sources I use. Just because we disagree with each other does not make one right and the other wrong, but only that we have different understandings by how we study the word of God as we grant others the courtesy to be understood and acknowledge their views, ToS 1.1. If you ever have a problem with me we can either take it to a private PM or you can take it to Talk With the Staff (TWTS) to have it resolved.

 

[eddif]

In our lifetime we are changing from one state to another. Galatians 3 is about law and grace. A period when the law was a schoolmaster. In Christ there is no difference between male and female. No differences between bond or free………

Time can warp. Time can stand still. On the day of battle things can change. I can provide scripture. Time can reverse.

Time can be no more.

Time can turn back.

Each of us is called not to be lukewarm. Each of us is called to love our neighbor.

There is the gift of administration. The rebel part of me resists at times, but I know there are those above me. How can all this be true? God’s ways are not our ways.

Some are called to Jews. Some are called to gentiles. In Christ there is no difference

As a redneck there are things I see through sunshades. By grace I am not totally blind.

I just have to stop here. One day we will see even as we are seen.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[Thekjv]

To know something about me, I never argue with others, but discuss with them by sharing scripture and the sources I use. Just because we disagree with each other does not make one right and the other wrong, but only that we have different understandings by how we study the word of God as we grant others the courtesy to be understood and acknowledge their views, ToS 1.1. If you ever have a problem with me we can either take it to a private PM or you can take it to Talk With the Staff (TWTS) to have it resolved.

In less than 10 post I have learned you do not believe in the things listed in the statement of faith just by reading what you have posted to me.

 

[eddif]

In less than 10 post I have learned you do not believe in the things listed in the statement of faith just by reading what you have posted

In post 92 for_his_glory suggested you go private on your discussion.

We have heard what you have to say about the moderator.

Am I perfect? No.

Mississippi redneck
eddif

 

[for_his_glory]

In less than 10 post I have learned you do not believe in the things listed in the statement of faith just by reading what you have posted to me.

Please take this to private PM with me and will discuss it there. I will not reply to this in this thread.

 

[Mr. G Lee]

It applies to the literal and symbolic of the 1000 years in Revelation 20:1-10

Yes the temporal literal must be mixed with the spiritual (not seen) eternal called a parable.

 

[Mr. G Lee]

There is no symbolism. 1000 years means exactly that, 1,000 360+/- day years.

I think you meant as if it was literal thousand the way it is used the first three times . the word as denotes a parable is in view. The metaphor thousand does not become literal in the book with all the metaphors used in parables from the beginning

Thousand (439 times) has to do to whatsoever is in view not just time period he owns a thousand cattle on a thousand hills. . . simply he owns all .

Psalm 50:10 For every beast of the forest is mine, and the cattle upon a thousand hills

Exodus 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands (all) of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Psalm 84:10 For a day in thy courts is better than a thousand.(all) I had rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God, than to dwell in the tents of wickedness.

Psalm 119:72 The law (one) of thy mouth (one) is better unto me than thousands of gold and silver.

Thousand represents a unknown it is not revealed to sign seekers. No sign were given in regard to the last day. No need to know the last day. . he will come like a thief in the night and leave forever. The new heavens and earth have appeared the former will not be remembered

Psalm 90:4 For a thousand years in thy sight are but as (Not is) yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

Ecclesiastes 6:6Yea, though he live a thousand years twice told, yet hath he seen no good: do not all go to one place?

One lifetime per person

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as (Not is) a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.(Not is a thousand )

 

[Mr. G Lee]

2 PETE 3:
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Gen 1:

14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
As I stated in my post imo there is a possibility that the first 4 days may not be 24 hour days because God did not need them to be 24 hour days. and there were no sun and moon before day four. imo the sun and moon was needed for mans biological body. not Gods work.

In creation out of all the goods, night darkness, is not called good.

From the beginning there was darkness night. .God must of hid himself for 12 hours. I am reminded of Israel leaving Egypt . The cloud of his presence hid the light and left the world (Egypt) in darkness .

There is no night. In the new order it said to be ten times brighter that the first three days.

Isaiah30: 26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.

 

[TheDeafMan]

I think you meant as if it was literal thousand the way it is used the first three times .

I meant it as 1,000 years. As in 998, 999, 1,000. Common years, each one 365+- days. A thousand years, the way we normally understand 1,000. Read verses in context. Sometimes thousand is symbolic, sometimes not. Context determines how to understand it. If it makes sense in normal usage, then that's what is likely meant.