Three person God identified in the Bible?

[justbyfaith]

The father was with himself?!

Wow. That's deep!

Yes; you have the pre-incarnate Word (the Father) who became flesh and dwelt among us; and then ascended to fill all things (Ephesians 4:10); even to exist Omnipresent and outside of time as He did before. The risen and ascended Christ is the Father.

Therefore, you have the one Father existing beside Himself in eternity; as one Person who is distinctly two Persons (as we are not mentioning the Holy Ghost in the current conversation).

 

[justbyfaith]

Stop J,
Stop making up your very own Christian doctrine.
That's already been done by minds greater than ours.

Not making anything up.

I get my doctrine directly from the word.

 

[justbyfaith]

The Trinity must be spiritually discerned.
Reading verses won't do it.

Yes; and I have been preaching the true Trinity.

 

[GodsGrace]

Not making anything up.

I get my doctrine directly from the word.

How do you think the doctrine of the Trinity came about?

 

[justbyfaith]

How do you think the doctrine of the Trinity came about?

It has always been inherent in the nature of God.

But of course it was discovered through studying the word.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes; and I have been preaching the true Trinity.

No.
And I'm not sure you should even be on this thread.
Do you consider yourself to be trinitarian?

 

[GodsGrace]

It has always been inherent in the nature of God.

But of course it was discovered through studying the word.

WHO studied the word to come up with the Trinitarian doctrine?

 

[justbyfaith]

And I'm not sure you should even be on this thread.
Do you consider yourself to be trinitarian?

Yes, I do.

For I believe in one God who exists as three distinct Persons.

Haven't you been reading all the posts?

 

[justbyfaith]

WHO studied the word to come up with the Trinitarian doctrine?

The ECF's.

 

[justbyfaith]

In the poll I voted for the first response.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes, I do.

For I believe in one God who exists as three distinct Persons.

Haven't you been reading all the posts?

No, I haven't.
If God is 3 DISTINCT persons, could you explain
WHO the PERSONS are, their role and HOW they're a "part" of God?

 

[GodsGrace]

The ECF's.

Perfect.
So why don't you believe what they taught?
I don't consider Acquinas to be an ECF but have you read HIS explanation of the Trinity?

 

[GodsGrace]

Yes; you have the pre-incarnate Word (the Father) who became flesh and dwelt among us; and then ascended to fill all things (Ephesians 4:10); even to exist Omnipresent and outside of time as He did before. The risen and ascended Christ is the Father.

Therefore, you have the one Father existing beside Himself in eternity; as one Person who is distinctly two Persons (as we are not mentioning the Holy Ghost in the current conversation).

I need my computer.
But, I must say, discussions about the Trinity are not my favorite.

 

[justbyfaith]

No, I haven't.
If God is 3 DISTINCT persons, could you explain
WHO the PERSONS are, their role and HOW they're a "part" of God?

Sure.

The Father is a Spirit without flesh inhabiting eternity (Isaiah 57:15).

The Son is the same Spirit come in flesh (1 John 4:1-3, 2 John 1:7).

The Holy Ghost is the same Spirit as He was released from Jesus' body at His death (Luke 23:46).

The Father and the Holy Ghost being distinct from each other in that the Holy Ghost has lived the human life of Christ and therefore has an experiential understanding of humanity.

The Father and the Holy Ghost being distinct from the Son, in that each is a Spirit without flesh while the Son is come in flesh.

There is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4) and He is God (John 4:24).

 

[GodsGrace]

Did you reply to 2011?
Later.


justbyfaith

 

[justbyfaith]

Perfect.
So why don't you believe what they taught?
I don't consider Acquinas to be an ECF but have you read HIS explanation of the Trinity?

I believe everything in the creeds except for what is directly contradicted by scripture (see Romans 1:3, Luke 1:35).

 

[GodsGrace]

Sure.

The Father is a Spirit without flesh inhabiting eternity.

The Son is the same Spirit come in flesh.

The Holy Ghost is the same Spirit as He was released from Jesus' body at His death (Luke 23:46).

The Father and the Holy Ghost being distinct from each other in that the Holy Ghost has lived the human life of Christ and therefore has an experiential understanding of humanity.

The Father and the Holy Ghost being distinct from the Son, in that each is a Spirit without flesh while the Son is come in flesh.

There is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4) and He is God (John 4:24).

Oh my!
Can't do this right now.

 

[justbyfaith]

Did you reply to 2011?
Later.


justbyfaith

Yes, #2014.

 

[GodsGrace]

I believe everything in the creeds except for what is directly contradicted by scripture (see Romans 1:3, Luke 1:35).

!
How could a creed contradict scripture!!
Then how do we know for certain what Christianity is?!
Must go for now.

 

[justbyfaith]

!
How could a creed contradict scripture!!
Then how do we know for certain what Christianity is?!
Must go for now.

I don't know. A creed is a belief that is either based on scripture or isn't.

All I know is that the creeds proclaim that Christ is uncreated while scripture says that He was "made of the seed of David according to the flesh" (Romans 1:3).

The creeds state that He is eternally begotten while the scripture declares that He was begotten in the incarnation (Luke 1:35).