Three person God identified in the Bible?

[theWind]

This here is your problem. Your lack of faith. You can't exercise faith that God has given his only begotten Son the authority to forgive sins. That's the problem with trinitarians they lack such faith.

You are a trinitarian.

 

[theWind]

I understand what you believe but it's you who refuse to believe so many scriptures that prove that Jesus is the Christ the son f the living God.

Jesus is God Almighty and there is no trinity.

 

[theWind]

The God and Father of Jesus has exalted his only begotten Son to a superior position yet Jesus is still the only begotten Son of God his Father.

And yet He is God Almighty.

 

[theWind]

The Word created the heavens and the earth. Millions of years later the Word created for himself a body of flesh and they called his name Jesus, while he remained the Word in Spirit. Father and Son are literally the One God, with us in the flesh.
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There's no millions of years later.

There is no evolution and we did not come from the monkeys or from pond scum.

Re-read Genesis chapter 1-2.

"And the morning and the evening were the ... day."

Single days. Not millions of years.

 

[Cooper]

There's no millions of years later.

There is no evolution and we did not come from the monkeys or from pond scum.

Re-read Genesis chapter 1-2.

"And the morning and the evening were the ... day."

Single days. Not millions of years.

The Hebrew word for day is yome. It means a period of time, anything from a few hours to eternity. We are in the seventh day now and look how long it is.
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[BB1956]

The Word created the heavens and the earth. Millions of years later the Word created for himself a body of flesh and they called his name Jesus, while he remained the Word in Spirit. Father and Son are literally the One God, with us in the flesh.
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Those who continue to deny that the only begotten Son of God is the Word and when the scriptures say the Word became flesh/human they deny it was the only begotten Son of God who became flesh/human, these are the ones who will not get everlasting life.

 

[BB1956]

You are fond of pointing out that Jesus is the "only begotten Son of God," which is fine of course, except that it seems that you think it means something it doesn't. Monogenes really just means "unique," "only," "one and only." What it does not mean is that Jesus was literally begotten or that there was a time when he did not exist. It is worth noting that monogenes is used only 9 times in the NT; 5 of those times in reference to Jesus and each of those are by John. This is important because John 1:1-3 completely rules out the idea that there was ever a time when the Word, the pre-incarnate Son, did not exist.

Here is M. R. Vincent on John 1:14's use of monogenes:

"Μονογενής distinguishes between Christ as the only Son, and the many children (τέκνα) of God; and further, in that the only Son did not become (γενέσθαι) such by receiving power, by adoption, or by moral generation, but was (ἦν) such in the beginning with God. The fact set forth does not belong to the sphere of His incarnation, but of His eternal being. The statement is anthropomorphic, and therefore cannot fully express the metaphysical relation."

I understand that trinitarians deny that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God that they deny that the only begotten Son of God is the Word that became flesh/human. That's why trinitarians and I disagree. Trinitarians want to convince people to deny that the Word is the only begotten Son of God who became flesh/human.

 

[BB1956]

You are a trinitarian.

No I'm not a trinitarian. I don't believe in a three person in a god-head

 

[theWind]

The Hebrew word for day is yome. It means a period of time, anything from a few hours to eternity. We are in the seventh day now and look how long it is.

False.

Not only does the Bible clarify with the repeated verses that I already posted, saying "And the evening and the morning were the ... day", but the Hebrew word there means day - unequivocally.

Hebrew: 3117
yom: day
Original Word: יוֹם
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: yom
Phonetic Spelling: (yome)
Definition: day
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
day
noun masculine Genesis 1:5 day

Evening and morning describe nothing else but a single day.

You are sorely mistaken.

 

[Cooper]

I understand that trinitarians deny that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God that they deny that the only begotten Son of God is the Word that became flesh/human. That's why trinitarians and I disagree. Trinitarians want to convince people to deny that the Word is the only begotten Son of God who became flesh/human.

Trinitarians say the Father is NOT the Son, the Son is NOT the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is NOT the Father, making three individual gods.

In my opinion, and according to scripture, we are made in the image of God and are One tripartite being comprising body, soul and spirit.
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[Cooper]

False.

Not only does the Bible clarify with the repeated verses that I already posted, saying "And the evening and the morning were the ... day", but the Hebrew word there means day - unequivocally.

Hebrew: 3117
yom: day
Original Word: יוֹם
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: yom
Phonetic Spelling: (yome)
Definition: day
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
day
noun masculine Genesis 1:5 day

Evening and morning describe nothing else but a single day.

You are sorely mistaken.

Show me in Strongs and no editing.
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[Free]

It's cracked me up every time you say "the trinity has stood the test of time", but it didn't dawn on me as to why til now.

Nobody is given a choice. Almost every single church in the world teaches the trinity. Nobody is taught anything else, and all references, to any other opposing doctrine to the trinity, are mocked and ridiculed.

Give people the True teaching of Oneness (not your fraudulent Modalism nonsense) and let them decide for themselves between that and the completely unbiblical doctrine of the trinity and you will see people leaving trinitarianism in droves within just a few years.

Within a decade, the trinity will be a laughingstock among Christendom throughout the world and nobody will ever return to such nonsense.

Give the people a choice and let's see just how the trinity "stands the test of time."

It won't last a single year.

Please.

What you seem to be ignoring, is that there have been thousands and thousands of godly theologians and scholars over the centuries who, just like the Reformers, could have spoken up against the Trinity had they found it to be in error. In fact, I am very certain that, like the Reformers, they would have.

Within a decade? It's already (and only) been about 100 years. Why did it apparently take around 1900 years for the "truth" of Oneness to become known? Was Jesus wrong in saying that "I am with you always, to the end of the age"? Did he actually let his Church utterly falter for 1900 years? Interesting position to take. It's the same tactic that both Mormons and JWs use.

 

[theWind]

We are in the seventh day now and look how long it is.

God blessed a single day of the week.

"And on the Seventh Day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the Seventh Day from all His work which He had made. And God blessed the Seventh Day, and sanctified it: because that in it (a single day) He had rested from all His work which God created and made."
Gen. 2:2-3

God did not bless a thousand years, or any indeterminate amount of time.

God blessed a single day for the sheer reason that He created everything in 6 single days.

And He rested for one single day, not for a thousand years.

 

[Free]

I understand that trinitarians deny that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God that they deny that the only begotten Son of God is the Word that became flesh/human. That's why trinitarians and I disagree.

I've addressed this already. Trinitarians absolutely do not "deny that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God" or that " the only begotten Son of God is the Word that became flesh/human." If you really believe that, then you don't understand the doctrine of the Trinity at all. Maybe that's why you don't believe it.

Trinitarians want to convince people to deny that the Word is the only begotten Son of God who became flesh/human.

Completely, utterly false. This is a blatant misrepresentation of what Trinitarians believe.

 

[theWind]

Show me in Strongs and no editing.
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Lol.

Nothing's been edited.

Strong's Concordance
yom: day
Original Word: יוֹם
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: yom
Phonetic Spelling: (yome)
Definition: day
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
day

See for yourself:
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/3117.htm

 

[theWind]

What you seem to be ignoring, is that there have been thousands and thousands of godly theologians and scholars over the centuries who, just like the Reformers, could have spoken up against the Trinity had they found it to be in error. In fact, I am very certain that, like the Reformers, they would have.

Within a decade? It's already (and only) been about 100 years. Why did it apparently take around 1900 years for the "truth" of Oneness to become known? Was Jesus wrong in saying that "I am with you always, to the end of the age"? Did he actually let his Church utterly falter for 1900 years? Interesting position to take. It's the same tactic that both Mormons and JWs use.

Oneness was the original teaching of the Bible, silly.

It was taught throughout the Old Testament.

 

[Cooper]

What you seem to be ignoring, is that there have been thousands and thousands of godly theologians and scholars over the centuries who, just like the Reformers, could have spoken up against the Trinity had they found it to be in error. In fact, I am very certain that, like the Reformers, they would have.

Within a decade? It's already (and only) been about 100 years. Why did it apparently take around 1900 years for the "truth" of Oneness to become known? Was Jesus wrong in saying that "I am with you always, to the end of the age"? Did he actually let his Church utterly falter for 1900 years? Interesting position to take. It's the same tactic that both Mormons and JWs use.

As we are a tripartite person, comprising body soul, and spirit in the image of God, I would not compare us with the doctrine of oneness.
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[theWind]

What you seem to be ignoring, is that there have been thousands and thousands of godly theologians and scholars over the centuries who, just like the Reformers, could have spoken up against the Trinity had they found it to be in error. In fact, I am very certain that, like the Reformers, they would have.

Within a decade? It's already (and only) been about 100 years. Why did it apparently take around 1900 years for the "truth" of Oneness to become known? Was Jesus wrong in saying that "I am with you always, to the end of the age"? Did he actually let his Church utterly falter for 1900 years? Interesting position to take. It's the same tactic that both Mormons and JWs use.

I take it you don't feel the trinity is all that important of a concept in Scripture.

 

[Cooper]

Lol.

Nothing's been edited.

Strong's Concordance
yom: day
Original Word: יוֹם
Part of Speech: Noun Masculine
Transliteration: yom
Phonetic Spelling: (yome)
Definition: day
NAS Exhaustive Concordance
Word Origin
a prim. root
Definition
day

See for yourself:
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/3117.htm

What is all this!

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[theWind]

What is all this!

afternoon* (1), age (8), age* (1), all (1), always* (14), amount* (2), battle (1), birthday* (1), Chronicles* (38), completely* (1), continually* (14), course* (1), daily (22), daily the days (1), day (1115), day of the days (1), day that the period (1), day's (6), day's every day (1), daylight* (1), days (635), days on the day (1), days to day (1), days you shall daily (1), days ago (1), days' (11), each (1), each day (4), entire (2), eternity (1), evening* (1), ever in your life* (1), every day (2), fate (1), first (5), forever* (11), forevermore* (1), full (5), full year (1), future* (1), holiday* (3), later* (2), length (1), life (12), life* (1), lifetime (2), lifetime* (1), live (1), long (2), long as i live (1), long* (11), midday* (1), now (5), older* (1), once (2), period (3), perpetually* (2), present (1), recently (1), reigns (1), ripe* (1), short-lived* (1), so long* (1), some time (1), survived* (2), time (45), time* (1), times* (2), today (172), today* (1), usual (1), very old* (1), when (10), when the days (1), whenever (1), while (3), whole (2), year (10), yearly (5), years (13), yesterday* (1).
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Those are all possible definitions that make zero sense with the rest of the context of the verse in question.

Morning and evening have nothing to do with an afternoon, an age, or anything else listed there.

Having said that, if you desperately need to reconcile your Biblical beliefs with modern mainstream worldly teachings that the earth is billions of years old and we came from apes and pond scum, you go right ahead.

I will warn you, though, that the Bible does say that you have not the love of God in you if you have to embrace the things of the world.

If you can't accept the Bible for what it teaches, aside from what the world teaches, you are sitting on a fence that God never created and you are a lukewarm Christian.

Something to consider, but you go right ahead and believe what feels most safe to you.