TULIP - Irresistible Grace

[JLB]

Whats with all the same questions I have answered and others as well for the past 3-5 years or more ? This is what I believe, that if you reject TULIP you reject the Gospel, now go study TULIP, you want a link for it ?

Do you believe the term the “world” refers to people who are already saved (elect) in John 3:16 ?

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 NKJV

 

[brightfame52]

Do you believe a person must first be born again, regenerated, saved before they believe the Gospel?

I believe if you reject tulip you reject the Gospel. What does Tulip teach, thats what I believe

 

[brightfame52]

Do you believe the term the “world” refers to people who are already saved (elect) in John 3:16 ?

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16 NKJV

What does tulip teach ?

 

[JLB]

I believe if you reject tulip you reject the Gospel. What does Tulip teach, thats what I believe

TULIP doesn’t teach that people are born again before they hear the Gospel. Nobody teaches that but you.

 

[JLB]

What does tulip teach ?

TULIP doesn’t teach that the word “world” in John 3:16 refers to people who are saved and are the elect.

Only you teach that.

 

[brightfame52]

TULIP doesn’t teach that people are born again before they hear the Gospel. Nobody teaches that but you.

Tulip Teaches irresistible grace and limited atonement, unconditional election as Gospel Truths you reject

 

[brightfame52]

TULIP doesn’t teach that the word “world” in John 3:16 refers to people who are saved and are the elect.

Only you teach that.

Well tell us What does tulip teach ?

 

[JLB]

Tulip Teaches irresistible grace and limited atonement, unconditional election as Gospel Truths you reject

TULIP does not teach that we are born again, before we hear and believe the Gospel.

 

[JLB]

Well tell us What does tulip teach ?

Here’s what Jesus teaches.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

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irresistible grace teaches -
if God loves you and wants you in His family, He is going to get you.


Irresistible grace is therefore a teaching that is unbiblical and directly teaches against the doctrine of Christ.

 

[brightfame52]

TULIP does not teach that we are born again, before we hear and believe the Gospel.

Tulip Teaches irresistible grace and limited atonement, unconditional election as Gospel Truths you reject

 

[brightfame52]

Here’s what Jesus teaches.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

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irresistible grace teaches -
if God loves you and wants you in His family, He is going to get you.


Irresistible grace is therefore a teaching that is unbiblical and directly teaches against the doctrine of Christ.

You reject Tulip, with limited atonement and irresistible grace, you reject the Gospel

 

[JLB]

Tulip Teaches irresistible grace and limited atonement, unconditional election as Gospel Truths you reject

I reject the unbiblical teachings of any man made doctrine that says…
if God loves you and wants you in His family, He is going to get you.


Jesus taught the opposite -

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

God loves the world of unsaved people and desires for them to be saved through His Son Jesus Christ.

For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
John 3:17

We don’t need to wonder if God loves us, because the Bible teaches us God does love us.

 

[brightfame52]

JLB

I reject the unbiblical teachings of any man made doctrine that says…
if God loves you and wants you in His family, He is going to get you.

You reject the Gospel of Gods Grace, Tulip sets forth

 

[JLB]

JLB



You reject the Gospel of Gods Grace, Tulip sets forth

I explained clearly what I reject.

The teaching that says God doesn’t love the world.

The teaching that you promote that says “the world” refers to the elect.

That people are born again “sovereignly” by God before they ever believe the Gospel.

Again that not what TULIP teaches, that’s what you teach.

 

[JLB]

You reject the Gospel of Gods Grace, Tulip sets forth

I reject the teaching that says a born again Christian doesn’t need to confess their sins to be forgiven because all their future sins are already forgiven.

 

[brightfame52]

I explained clearly what I reject.

The teaching that says God doesn’t love the world.

The teaching that you promote that says “the world” refers to the elect.

That people are born again “sovereignly” by God before they ever believe the Gospel.

Again that not what TULIP teaches, that’s what you teach.

In my opinion this applies:
You reject the Gospel of Gods Grace, Tulip sets forth

 

[brightfame52]

I reject the teaching that says a born again Christian doesn’t need to confess their sins to be forgiven because all their future sins are already forgiven.

In my opinion you reject the Gospel of Gods Grace

 

[Whatever]

I reject the unbiblical teachings of any man made doctrine that says…
if God loves you and wants you in His family, He is going to get you.

What is wrong with that?
ESV
Mat 20:15 Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me? Or do you begrudge my generosity?’

Do you disagree that as God's creatures we all belong to Him? Or do you begrudge His generosity because He doesn't do it for everybody?

 

[JLB]

Mat 20:15 Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me? Or do you begrudge my generosity?’

saying, ‘These last men have worked only one hour, and you made them equal to us who have borne the burden and the heat of the day.’ But he answered one of them and said, ‘Friend, I am doing you no wrong. Did you not agree with me for a denarius? Take what is yours and go your way. I wish to give to this last man the same as to you. Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with my own things? Or is your eye evil because I am good?’ So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few chosen.” Matthew 20:12-16

• Friend, I am doing you no wrong. Did you not agree with me for a denarius? Take what is yours and go your way. I wish to give to this last man the same as to you.

Because the Lord is generous and gives the same wage to those who worked only one hour as those who worked a full day.


That’s the context.


Do you believe the context is about salvation?

That the payment for the work the men did is salvation?




JLB

 

[JLB]

What is wrong with that?
ESV
Mat 20:15 Am I not allowed to do what I choose with what belongs to me? Or do you begrudge my generosity?’

Do you disagree that as God's creatures we all belong to Him? Or do you begrudge His generosity because He doesn't do it for everybody?

Do you believe God loves the world?

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16


Do you believe “the world” refers to people who are already saved?