Was 1948 when God restored Israel?

[daddd]

For 42 months ,the saints in Israel is persecuted.Everyone else is not.

We can disagree. Looking at Daniel we see that the little horn subdues kingdoms. It also says in the biblle that nations will attack Israel in the end. It also says something like 2/3 of Jews will be killed. Etc. Your claims are not just out in left field, they are lost in space.

Nor do they address the topic.

 

[daddd]

I think the fact that there is a country in the middle east named Israel is proof that there is a country in the middle east called Israel.

Someone doubted that? In fact the bible has a lot to say about that nation in the Tribulation. That has nothing to do with a claim that God restored them and brought them there and is protecting them etc etc.

Does God have power over the things of the earth?I would have to say yes.

Do the people in that country know God?A few,yes.

Will that country and it's goverment survive,?No,only a remnant will survive.

What is the name of the remnant that survives?Israel.

What is the name given to the remnant that overcomes?Israel

None of these questions matter and none address the topic. The remnant by the way will all be saved. Israel in 1948 was not saved.

 

[Consecrated Life]

Today We can certainly see a work in progress leading up to what will one day The Nation of Israel in the Will of God, representing to the world what God has always intended them to be by choosing them in the first place .
But that has not happened yet .

 

[daddd]

So ,according to you it's Satan that has seven heads and ten horns.What do the heads of Satan represent?

Again why make stuff up? One interpretation of the beast from the sea is that it represents kingdoms of the world. (like egypt,assyria,babylon,medo persia,greece and rome). That shows how all the kingdoms are from the same inspiration or spirit. So in that interpretation Satan posessed each leader of each kingdom. Why what interpretation of the beast from the sea do you prefer?

Revelation 12
3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

We already know the dragon is Satan.

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

So...?

 

[daddd]

Today We can certainly see a work in progress leading up to what will one day The Nation of Israel in the Will of God, representing to the world what God has always intended them to be by choosing them in the first place .
But that has not happened yet .

Right. Jacob has to be here for the time of Jacob's trouble to occur. Israel has to be there to be invaded. etc. That does not mean God is their King now and that He restored them.

 

[journeymanisnothing]

Perhaps you didn't notice.
Gog is a seperate ruler who attempts to overthrow Christs reign in the promised land at the end of 1000 years.

Rev.20 shows how the devils' entire army is destroyed by the word of of our Lord,

It appears Gog did not know Christ was reigning over him.In fact,it appears Gog doesn't know much of anything about Christ.

Gog mistook Jesus and his followers turning the other cheek as weakness. Big mistake.

All the nations outside of the land promised to Abraham's seed comes against Christ and his kingdom.

They always have.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Great. So? That is supposed to be news? If God protects here how would the enemy be able to hurt her?

Revelation 3:10
Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

Revelation 13:3
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Revelation 16:14
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty

Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

The rule of the evil king in the end is not restricted to Israel. Sorry. Yes the antichrist has a seat of power, but he rules the world for a short time in the end. Period.

Maybe you didn't pay attention.Scripture does not say God protects her.Scripture says she flees from the dragon till she is out of his reach.
If God was protecting her,she wouldn't have to flee anywhere.

And no,the beast with seven heads and ten horns does not rule the world.
The world follows after the beast which is already being fulfilled.
The text you posted says as much but because you have drawn a conclusion and ignore the text,you don't understand it.

 

[daddd]

Maybe you didn't pay attention.Scripture does not say God protects her.Scripture says she flees from the dragon till she is out of his reach.
If God was protecting her,she wouldn't have to flee anywhere.

No. It says nothing like that. The woman fled into the wilderness where she has a place prepared by God. That means protection. What, you think God set a trap for them where they all get killed suddenly? Since the world will be ruled by the final leader you are not in a position to say what the reach of the government will be.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Someone doubted that? In fact the bible has a lot to say about that nation in the Tribulation. That has nothing to do with a claim that God restored them and brought them there and is protecting them etc etc.

None of these questions matter and none address the topic. The remnant by the way will all be saved. Israel in 1948 was not saved.

No one said Israel was saved in 1948.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

No. It says nothing like that. The woman fled into the wilderness where she has a place prepared by God. That means protection. What, you think God set a trap for them where they all get killed suddenly? Since the world will be ruled by the final leader you are not in a position to say what the reach of the government will be.

Like I said if God was protecting her ,she wouldn't have to flee.
God is mightier than your supposed world leader.
But your world leader can't reach her in the wilderness where she flees to .In fact the rest of the earth will help the woman outside of his kingdom.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Her seed remains In Israel as they are commanded by Jesus and the word of God

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Again why make stuff up? One interpretation of the beast from the sea is that it represents kingdoms of the world. (like egypt,assyria,babylon,medo persia,greece and rome). That shows how all the kingdoms are from the same inspiration or spirit. So in that interpretation Satan posessed each leader of each kingdom. Why what interpretation of the beast from the sea do you prefer?


We already know the dragon is Satan.

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

So...?

So you don't know what the seven heads of the dragon are?
Why not say you don't know if you don't know?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Rev.20 shows how the devils' entire army is destroyed by the word of of our Lord,

Gog mistook Jesus and his followers turning the other cheek as weakness. Big mistake.

They always have.

No,Christ hasn't reigned in the promised land.Not yet.

If he had ,there would be no sinners in that kingdom.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

No. It says nothing like that. The woman fled into the wilderness where she has a place prepared by God. That means protection. What, you think God set a trap for them where they all get killed suddenly? Since the world will be ruled by the final leader you are not in a position to say what the reach of the government will be.

And just so you know,the woman is fleeing Babylon.

Jeremiah 51:6
Flee from Babylon! Run for your lives! Do not be destroyed because of her sins. It is time for the LORD’s vengeance; he will repay her what she deserves.

Land of the seven heads.She flees 42 months before it is destroyed.In fact,she flees when the two witnesses start their occupation of Jerusalem.

Revelation 12
6 The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

Revelation 11
3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”

She will be safe anywhere upon the entire earth except in israel.at that time.

 

[daddd]

No one said Israel was saved in 1948.

If God was the One that brought them back from all over the world and protects them etc as some preachers claim, then of course they say that.

 

[daddd]

Like I said if God was protecting her ,she wouldn't have to flee.

So if God protected Jesus Mary and Jesph they woulld not have needed to flee? Wrong. Sometimes it it by fleeing that God protects.

God is mightier than your supposed world leader.

The long prophesied final world leader is not my leader. Try again.

But your world leader can't reach her in the wilderness where she flees to .In fact the rest of the earth will help the woman outside of his kingdom.

Great, and so..? Is that supposed too relate to the topic? That has what to do with 1948?

Her seed remains In Israel as they are commanded by Jesus and the word of God

Says who? People the world over will be saved. It is not known that all Jews will live in Israel either. The nation today is not His seed until they get saved. This is news?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

If God was the One that brought them back from all over the world and protects them etc as some preachers claim, then of course they say that.

The bible says the nations bring them back

 

[daddd]

So you don't know what the seven heads of the dragon are?
Why not say you don't know if you don't know?

If it is a matter of interpretation who knows? I already stated what I think it likely means (kingdoms ruled by Satan over history) But since that has nothing to do with the OP who cares?

 

[daddd]

The bible says the nations bring them back

Chapter and verse?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

So if God protected Jesus Mary and Jesph they woulld not have needed to flee? Wrong. Sometimes it it by fleeing that God protects.


The long prophesied final world leader is not my leader. Try again.


Great, and so..? Is that supposed too relate to the topic? That has what to do with 1948?

Says who? People the world over will be saved. It is not known that all Jews will live in Israel either. The nation today is not His seed until they get saved. This is news?

Jesus says in the gospel.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Chapter and verse?

Isaiah 14:2
Nations will take them and bring them to their own place. And Israel will take possession of the nations and make them male and female servants in the LORD’s land. They will make captives of their captors and rule over their oppressors.



If you have studied revelation,you will understand why Israel rules over the nations in the Lord's land.