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What Is Christianity?

The essence of Christianity is "Christ in you, the hope of glory" (Col 1:29). Christian means "Christ One".

What you have mentioned is the Gospel, which is closely tied with this. And the word "killed" may be somewhat out of place. Christ willingly and voluntarily became the Lamb of God and offered Himself as a sacrifice unto God. And God the Father saw the Lamb slain FROM BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD (1 Pet 1:20). That is an amazing thought, i.e. that the Lamb was slain before the first man was created. Everything was already foreknown to God.
That is the crux of the issue and so few believe, today. I a naturally flat footed, making it easy for me to stand, flat footed, on the Word of God and the truth of the matter is the Bible teaches such a broad spectrum on this issue. [Genesis 1:1 thru the last Amen of the Revelation 22]

There is nothing on this planet that God has not foreknown. And because so any will not allow time to explain and miscall me a Calvinist. I believe in Biblical Predestination because scripture, God's Love Letter to us, teaches it. That does mean I can never be an Armenian because I cannot deny God's Word.

For the same reason I can never be neither a Calvinist nor a Five Point Hyper Calvinist for they deny certain aspects of God by refusing to view all of scripture as one. The whole of the scripture teaches God is Omniscient, Omnipotent and without limit making God Omnipresent.
Few will try to deny He is everywhere at the same time.

The problem comes to the surface when we attempt to define everywhere because as three deemensional beings we have no real grasp on the Spiritual Dimension. But God created the worlds i all the universes and when He created and, He, devised the Time/Space Continuum for our benefit. God has, not, that limitation. God is in this room, right this instant, and He is in the past and the far future, right now.

On this basis, God wrote y name in the Book of Life before I was ever here to sin the garage I delved in before my conversion because God foreknew I would convert because He knew in the past y responses to His actions in my life.

There is nothing hidden from God because nothing is unknown to
God.
 
I wonder how far off we are from each other as to what we believe Christianity is.
Can we share what we believe it is and back it up with Scripture?
I'll go first.

Christianity is that Christ was killed for us, that his death has washed away our sins, and by dying he did away with death itself.
Romans 5:8;
1 Corinthians 15:57;

This is what we must believe.

Hi Rollo Tamasi,

I`ve only just seen your post but will have a try. This is what I believe of Christianity or I rather like to call it by it`s biblical name, the Body of Christ.

The Body of Christ is I believe the called out ones from Israel & the Gentiles who are set in the Body by the Holy Spirit. The Lord is building them together over the centuries & over the world till they have come to the maturity of the unity of faith (by the Holy Spirit & not of man). Then the head, Christ will join with His body & take it to its eternal setting with Him in the third heaven.

`For by one Spirit we were all baptised into one body.....now God has set the members, each one of them, in the body just as he pleased.` (1 Cor. 12: 13 & 18)
`Jesus said ...I will build my ekklesia, called out ones, church....` (Matt. 16: 18)
`...till we all come to the unity of the faith & the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the statue of the fullness of Christ.` (Eph. 4: 13)
`To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne....` (Rev. 3: 21)

Marilyn.



 
The essence of Christianity is "Christ in you, the hope of glory" (Col 1:29). Christian means "Christ One".
A young man just asked me this question yesterday (What is a Christian?) and the above verse is the answer I gave him, and I agree with Bill, this is spot on with the question presented in the OP, it is no longer I, but Christ living in me. Due to being long winded sometimes - many times, I didn't stop there, I went on to explain that being a Christian and the goal we should all have is found in Ephesians:

4:12 to the building up of the body of Christ; until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. (ESV)

Being a Christian means to follow Christ and be led and mature into the character of Christ - it's the goal we should all try to attain to, Christ is the standard! This leads us to do great works of Christ and to remain humble while doing them, works that otherwise we would not be able to achieve - with man things are impossible, but with God all things are possible, we will do and see greater things. We get to participate with Christ in all of it! :sohappy

Another one I shared:

Luke 6:30 (ESV) Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
 
A young man just asked me this question yesterday (What is a Christian?) and the above verse is the answer I gave him, and I agree with Bill, this is spot on with the question presented in the OP, it is no longer I, but Christ living in me. Due to being long winded sometimes - many times, I didn't stop there, I went on to explain that being a Christian and the goal we should all have is found in Ephesians:

4:12 to the building up of the body of Christ; until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fullness of Christ. (ESV)

Being a Christian means to follow Christ and be led and mature into the character of Christ - it's the goal we should all try to attain to, Christ is the standard! This leads us to do great works of Christ and to remain humble while doing them, works that otherwise we would not be able to achieve - with man things are impossible, but with God all things are possible, we will do and see greater things. We get to participate with Christ in all of it! :sohappy

Another one I shared:

Luke 6:30 (ESV) Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
Abi,
I call that thorough but then I have been told I a also long winded, go tell, huh? You are so right. Ending my Working Career as a Professional Driver, I remain a brother to many of them and just one illustration I will give you for use in the future to go with the scriptures you use, just omit my name, please.

A rogue Police Officer turned Driver wanted my old Table Saw and Scroll Saw when I and my Wife purchased upgrades. He was about to move to San Antonio and several fellow Drivers warned me he was a crook. I gave him the two saws on time, fifty a week for three weeks for over six hundred dollars worth, real value. He worked one more month before moving and paid zero.

I have been asked about the deal several times since '02 and told to sue him for the real value since he never paid the deal price. The Scroll Saw was gently used and the Table Saw six months old with a Floating Table costing us over eight hundred but I forgave him and turned him over to God the day he moved so I have no more business with him except he is saved and even then it is between him, his wife and our LORD. To many people people enter the Church without entering into fellowship with and surrender to God.

Remember, names are not important, please.
 
Abi,
I call that thorough but then I have been told I a also long winded, go tell, huh? You are so right. Ending my Working Career as a Professional Driver, I remain a brother to many of them and just one illustration I will give you for use in the future to go with the scriptures you use, just omit my name, please.

A rogue Police Officer turned Driver wanted my old Table Saw and Scroll Saw when I and my Wife purchased upgrades. He was about to move to San Antonio and several fellow Drivers warned me he was a crook. I gave him the two saws on time, fifty a week for three weeks for over six hundred dollars worth, real value. He worked one more month before moving and paid zero.

I have been asked about the deal several times since '02 and told to sue him for the real value since he never paid the deal price. The Scroll Saw was gently used and the Table Saw six months old with a Floating Table costing us over eight hundred but I forgave him and turned him over to God the day he moved so I have no more business with him except he is saved and even then it is between him, his wife and our LORD. To many people people enter the Church without entering into fellowship with and surrender to God.

Remember, names are not important, please.
Surely this is the Spirit of Christ living in you in returning good for evil. Long winded? It is difficult to express the fullness of God in feeble words. The cross is an expression that was prepared for us, and even then requires the Holy Spirit to reveal. As for your personal sacrifice in the account you have shared with us. I am sure your prayers for this thief carry weight with God because of your sacrifice. It makes me wonder who prayed for me when I was the thief.
 
Christianity is a religion which is based upon the teachings of Scripture and adhered to by the followers of Christ.

To state it most simply, the study of religion is chiefly the study of a certain kind of human behavior, be it under the rubric of anthropology, sociology, or psychology. The study of Theology, on the other hand, is the study of God. Religion is anthropocentric; theology is theocentric. The difference between religion and theology is ultimately the difference between God and man - hardly a small difference.

Again, it is a difference of subject matter. The subject of Theology proper is God; the subject matter of Religion is man.

I believe this is rather relevant to how we define Christianity. If we were to define it as a religion, then I see no better definition than James 1:27.

God bless,
William
 
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I wrote this in another website, I hope that this is okay with the moderation as defined by the terms of service to quote it here.

The T.U.L.I.P is in my view the best summary of the Gospel and Biblical Christianity. Though the article is specifically about Reformed Christianity which I believe... is biblical Christianity in its truest and most consistent form.

Salvation by Grace. Reformed theology teaches that God in His grace and mercy has chosen to redeem a people to Himself, delivering them from sin and death. The Reformed doctrine of salvation is commonly represented by the acrostic TULIP (also known as the five points of Calvinism). Calvinism is a rare theology: It can be simply explained using a five-letter acronym. This set of religious principles is the work of John Calvin (1509-1564), a French church reformer who had a permanent influence on several branches of Protestantism. Like Martin Luther before him, John Calvin broke from the Roman Catholic Church and based his theology on the Bible alone, not the Bible and tradition. After Calvin's death, his followers spread those beliefs throughout Europe and the American colonies. The five points of Calvinism can be remembered using the acronym TULIP:

T - "Total depravity," also called "total inability," asserts that as a consequence of the fall of man into sin, every person is enslaved to sin. People are not by nature inclined to love God but rather to serve their own interests and to reject the rule of God. Thus, all people by their own faculties are morally unable to choose to follow God and be saved because they are unwilling to do so out of the necessity of their own natures. (The term "total" in this context refers to sin affecting every part of a person, not that every person is as evil as they could be). This doctrine is derived from Augustine's explanation of Original Sin. While the phrases "totally depraved" and "utterly perverse" were used by Calvin, what was meant was the inability to save oneself from sin rather than being absent of goodness. Phrases like "total depravity" cannot be found in the Canons of Dort, and the Canons as well as later Reformed orthodox theologians arguably offer a more moderate view of the nature of fallen humanity than Calvin.

Mark 7:20-23, "And He was saying, "That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man. 21 "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries, 22 deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and foolishness. 23 "All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man." Matt. 7:17, "Even so, every good tree bears good fruit; but the bad tree bears bad fruit."

U - "Unconditional election" asserts that God has chosen from eternity those whom he will bring to himself not based on foreseen virtue, merit, or faith in those people; rather, his choice is unconditionally grounded in his mercy alone. God has chosen from eternity to extend mercy to those he has chosen and to withhold mercy from those not chosen. Those chosen receive salvation through Christ alone. Those not chosen receive the just wrath that is warranted for their sins against God.

John 6:44, "No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day." John 6:65, "And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me, unless it has been granted him from the Father." Mark 4:10-12, "And as soon as He was alone, His followers, along with the twelve, began asking Him about the parables. 11 And He was saying to them, "To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God; but those who are outside get everything in parables, 12 in order that while seeing, they may see and not perceive; and while hearing, they may hear and not understand lest they return and be forgiven." Matt. 11:27, "All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son, except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father, except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him." John 6:38-40, "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 “And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40 “For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him, may have eternal life; and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”

L - "Limited atonement," also called "particular redemption" or "definite atonement", asserts that Jesus's substitutionary atonement was definite and certain in its purpose and in what it accomplished. This implies that only the sins of the elect were atoned for by Jesus's death. Calvinists do not believe, however, that the atonement is limited in its value or power, but rather that the atonement is limited in the sense that it is intended for some and not all. Some Calvinists have quipped, "The atonement is sufficient for all and efficient for the elect," while other Calvinists find such wording confusing rather than helpful. All Calvinists would affirm that the blood of Christ was sufficient to pay for every single human being IF it were God's intention to save every single human being. But Calvinists are also quick to point out that Jesus did not spill a drop of blood in vain (Galatians 2:21), and therefore, we can only be sure that His blood sufficed for those for whom it was intended, however many (Matthew 26:28) or few (Matthew 7:14) that may be. Some Calvinists also teach that the atonement accomplished certain benefits for all mankind, albeit, not their eternal salvation. The doctrine is driven by the Calvinistic concept of the sovereignty of God in salvation and their understanding of the nature of the atonement. At the Synod of Dort, both sides agreed that the atonement of Christ's death was sufficient to pay for all sin and that it was only efficacious for some (it only actually saved some). The controversy centered on whether this limited efficacy was based on God's election (the view of the Synod and of later Reformed theologians) or on the choice of each person and God's foreknowledge of that choice (the view of Arminius).

John 10:11, "I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep." John 10:26, "But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep." Matt. 25:32, "And all the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left."

I - "Irresistible grace," also called "efficacious grace", asserts that the saving grace of God is effectually applied to those whom he has determined to save (that is, the elect) and overcomes their resistance to obeying the call of the gospel, bringing them to a saving faith. This means that when God sovereignly purposes to save someone, that individual certainly will be saved. The doctrine holds that this purposeful influence of God's Holy Spirit cannot be resisted, but that the Holy Spirit, "graciously causes the elect sinner to cooperate, to believe, to repent, to come freely and willingly to Christ." This is not to deny the fact that the Spirit’s outward call (through the proclamation of the Gospel) can be, and often is, rejected by sinners; rather, it’s that inward call which cannot be rejected. In fact, every saved person can testify how, at some point in their life, they “felt overwhelmingly compelled” to believe in Christ, as if they “had no choice but to follow Him.” This is what is meant by the effectual calling of God.

Matt. 4:19, "And He *said to them, "Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men." 20 And they immediately left the nets, and followed Him." Matt. 9:9, "And as Jesus passed on from there, He saw a man, called Matthew, sitting in the tax office; and He *said to him, “Follow Me!” And he rose, and followed Him." John 6:37, "All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out." John 6:65, "And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me, unless it has been granted him from the Father.”

P - "Perseverance of the saints" (or perseverance of God with the saints) (the word "saints" is used to refer to all who are set apart by God, and not of those who are exceptionally holy, canonized, or in heaven) asserts that since God is sovereign and his will cannot be frustrated by humans or anything else, those whom God has called into communion with himself will continue in faith until the end. Those who apparently fall away either never had true faith to begin with (1 John 2:19), or, if they are saved but not presently walking in the Spirit, they will be divinely chastened (Hebrews 12:5–11) and will repent (1 John 3:6–9).

John 6:38-40, "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 “And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40 “For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him, may have eternal life; and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:66, "After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him." John 10:27-28, "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand."

God bless,
William
 
To state it most simply, the study of religion is chiefly the study of a certain kind of human behavior, be it under the rubric of anthropology, sociology, or psychology. The study of Theology, on the other hand, is the study of God. Religion is anthropocentric; theology is theocentric. The difference between religion and theology is ultimately the difference between God and man - hardly a small difference.

Again, it is a difference of subject matter. The subject of Theology proper is God; the subject matter of Religion is man.

I believe this is rather relevant to how we define Christianity. If we were to define it as a religion, then I see no better definition than James 1:27.

God bless,
William
But to define it as a religion is to not walk with the Master, bad!
 
But to define it as a religion is to not walk with the Master, bad!
I would agree with you again, Bill.

This verse just popped into my head, showing Christianity was never meant to be a solo journey either, can't have Christianity without His Body at work! :)

1 Cor 12:12 (NIV) Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. 13 For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink. 14 Even so the body is not made up of one part but of many.
15 Now if the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason stop being part of the body. 17 If the whole body were an eye, where would the sense of hearing be? If the whole body were an ear, where would the sense of smell be? 18 But in fact God has placed the parts in the body, every one of them, just as he wanted them to be. 19 If they were all one part, where would the body be? 20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body.
21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I don’t need you!” And the head cannot say to the feet, “I don’t need you!” 22 On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, 23 and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, 24 while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has put the body together, giving greater honor to the parts that lacked it, 25 so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. 26 If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.
 
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I wrote this in another website, I hope that this is okay with the moderation as defined by the terms of service to quote it here.

The T.U.L.I.P is in my view the best summary of the Gospel and Biblical Christianity. Though the article is specifically about Reformed Christianity which I believe... is biblical Christianity in its truest and most consistent form.

Salvation by Grace. Reformed theology teaches that God in His grace and mercy has chosen to redeem a people to Himself, delivering them from sin and death. The Reformed doctrine of salvation is commonly represented by the acrostic TULIP (also known as the five points of Calvinism). Calvinism is a rare theology: It can be simply explained using a five-letter acronym. This set of religious principles is the work of John Calvin (1509-1564), a French church reformer who had a permanent influence on several branches of Protestantism. Like Martin Luther before him, John Calvin broke from the Roman Catholic Church and based his theology on the Bible alone, not the Bible and tradition. After Calvin's death, his followers spread those beliefs throughout Europe and the American colonies. The five points of Calvinism can be remembered using the acronym TULIP:

T - "Total depravity," also called "total inability," asserts that as a consequence of the fall of man into sin, every person is enslaved to sin. People are not by nature inclined to love God but rather to serve their own interests and to reject the rule of God. Thus, all people by their own faculties are morally unable to choose to follow God and be saved because they are unwilling to do so out of the necessity of their own natures. (The term "total" in this context refers to sin affecting every part of a person, not that every person is as evil as they could be). This doctrine is derived from Augustine's explanation of Original Sin. While the phrases "totally depraved" and "utterly perverse" were used by Calvin, what was meant was the inability to save oneself from sin rather than being absent of goodness. Phrases like "total depravity" cannot be found in the Canons of Dort, and the Canons as well as later Reformed orthodox theologians arguably offer a more moderate view of the nature of fallen humanity than Calvin.

Mark 7:20-23, "And He was saying, "That which proceeds out of the man, that is what defiles the man. 21 "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries, 22 deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and foolishness. 23 "All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man." Matt. 7:17, "Even so, every good tree bears good fruit; but the bad tree bears bad fruit."

U - "Unconditional election" asserts that God has chosen from eternity those whom he will bring to himself not based on foreseen virtue, merit, or faith in those people; rather, his choice is unconditionally grounded in his mercy alone. God has chosen from eternity to extend mercy to those he has chosen and to withhold mercy from those not chosen. Those chosen receive salvation through Christ alone. Those not chosen receive the just wrath that is warranted for their sins against God.

John 6:44, "No one can come to Me, unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day." John 6:65, "And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me, unless it has been granted him from the Father." Mark 4:10-12, "And as soon as He was alone, His followers, along with the twelve, began asking Him about the parables. 11 And He was saying to them, "To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God; but those who are outside get everything in parables, 12 in order that while seeing, they may see and not perceive; and while hearing, they may hear and not understand lest they return and be forgiven." Matt. 11:27, "All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son, except the Father; nor does anyone know the Father, except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son wills to reveal Him." John 6:38-40, "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 “And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40 “For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him, may have eternal life; and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”

L - "Limited atonement," also called "particular redemption" or "definite atonement", asserts that Jesus's substitutionary atonement was definite and certain in its purpose and in what it accomplished. This implies that only the sins of the elect were atoned for by Jesus's death. Calvinists do not believe, however, that the atonement is limited in its value or power, but rather that the atonement is limited in the sense that it is intended for some and not all. Some Calvinists have quipped, "The atonement is sufficient for all and efficient for the elect," while other Calvinists find such wording confusing rather than helpful. All Calvinists would affirm that the blood of Christ was sufficient to pay for every single human being IF it were God's intention to save every single human being. But Calvinists are also quick to point out that Jesus did not spill a drop of blood in vain (Galatians 2:21), and therefore, we can only be sure that His blood sufficed for those for whom it was intended, however many (Matthew 26:28) or few (Matthew 7:14) that may be. Some Calvinists also teach that the atonement accomplished certain benefits for all mankind, albeit, not their eternal salvation. The doctrine is driven by the Calvinistic concept of the sovereignty of God in salvation and their understanding of the nature of the atonement. At the Synod of Dort, both sides agreed that the atonement of Christ's death was sufficient to pay for all sin and that it was only efficacious for some (it only actually saved some). The controversy centered on whether this limited efficacy was based on God's election (the view of the Synod and of later Reformed theologians) or on the choice of each person and God's foreknowledge of that choice (the view of Arminius).

John 10:11, "I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep." John 10:26, "But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep." Matt. 25:32, "And all the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left."

I - "Irresistible grace," also called "efficacious grace", asserts that the saving grace of God is effectually applied to those whom he has determined to save (that is, the elect) and overcomes their resistance to obeying the call of the gospel, bringing them to a saving faith. This means that when God sovereignly purposes to save someone, that individual certainly will be saved. The doctrine holds that this purposeful influence of God's Holy Spirit cannot be resisted, but that the Holy Spirit, "graciously causes the elect sinner to cooperate, to believe, to repent, to come freely and willingly to Christ." This is not to deny the fact that the Spirit’s outward call (through the proclamation of the Gospel) can be, and often is, rejected by sinners; rather, it’s that inward call which cannot be rejected. In fact, every saved person can testify how, at some point in their life, they “felt overwhelmingly compelled” to believe in Christ, as if they “had no choice but to follow Him.” This is what is meant by the effectual calling of God.

Matt. 4:19, "And He *said to them, "Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men." 20 And they immediately left the nets, and followed Him." Matt. 9:9, "And as Jesus passed on from there, He saw a man, called Matthew, sitting in the tax office; and He *said to him, “Follow Me!” And he rose, and followed Him." John 6:37, "All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out." John 6:65, "And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me, unless it has been granted him from the Father.”

P - "Perseverance of the saints" (or perseverance of God with the saints) (the word "saints" is used to refer to all who are set apart by God, and not of those who are exceptionally holy, canonized, or in heaven) asserts that since God is sovereign and his will cannot be frustrated by humans or anything else, those whom God has called into communion with himself will continue in faith until the end. Those who apparently fall away either never had true faith to begin with (1 John 2:19), or, if they are saved but not presently walking in the Spirit, they will be divinely chastened (Hebrews 12:5–11) and will repent (1 John 3:6–9).

John 6:38-40, "For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 “And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40 “For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him, may have eternal life; and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:66, "After this many of his disciples turned back and no longer walked with him." John 10:27-28, "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28 and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand."

God bless,
William

Sorry William, I can't agree with this.
You make Christianity out to be a private club and God picks who gets in and who doesn't.
Your TULIP leaves no room for freedom of choice.
It's simply a robotic selection by God.
Nope, I can't agree with that.
 
Hi William,

God`s word does definitely NOT say that He only chooses some people & not others. Heresy bro. How could that show that He is just & not partial.

The truth is that God knows all things thus He knows who will turn to Him. It is like having a door with `whosoever` on the lintel, & then when you go inside you see the other side saying `chosen of God.` All could be chosen, but some turn away.

Hi Rollo, I just read your comments & totally agree.:thumbsup

Marilyn.
 
To state it most simply, the study of religion is chiefly the study of a certain kind of human behavior, be it under the rubric of anthropology, sociology, or psychology. The study of Theology, on the other hand, is the study of God. Religion is anthropocentric; theology is theocentric. The difference between religion and theology is ultimately the difference between God and man - hardly a small difference.

Again, it is a difference of subject matter. The subject of Theology proper is God; the subject matter of Religion is man.

I believe this is rather relevant to how we define Christianity. If we were to define it as a religion, then I see no better definition than James 1:27.

God bless,
William
I strongly disagree. I really cannot figure out why some Christians, or certain groups of Christians, are so intent on redefining religion in such a way that they can then conclude that Christianity isn't a religion. That's referred to as circular reasoning. Somehow "religion" has become a dirty word to many Christians.

A couple of issues: 1) There is a big difference between "the study of religion" and "religion," and 2) theology is the study of God, not "the study of Theology...is the study of God." There is little difference between the study of religion and the study of theology, both of which would mostly come under the domains of psychology and sociology.

Religion includes Theology proper, among other things--it is the beliefs and practices for a person or group of persons as they relate to God and/or the world; it is a worldview. That is what Christianity is--an organized set of beliefs and practices. There is no getting around that. We should not be redefining the term religion, as this can stifle discussion or make it appear as though we don't know what we're talking about; it can put us on shaky ground regarding our witness.
 
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Sorry William, I can't agree with this.
You make Christianity out to be a private club and God picks who gets in and who doesn't.
Your TULIP leaves no room for freedom of choice.
It's simply a robotic selection by God.
Nope, I can't agree with that.
TULIP is Five Point Hyper Calvinism and has almost nothing to do with what Calvin. Paul and Jesus taught. You're right brother but I, long ago, being a Baptist Flavored Christian tired of beating my brains out on this Brick Wall. God bless.
 
I strongly disagree. I really cannot figure out why some Christians, or certain groups of Christians, are so intent on redefining religion in such a way that they can then conclude that Christianity isn't a religion. That's referred to as circular reasoning. Somehow "religion" has become a dirty word to many Christians.
Good evening Free,
Jesus said it Himself, He did not come for the righteous. He came to restore what was lost and one can never accuse adam of religion but he did have Fellowship with God until lust for that good looking woman God created for him addled his brain. (Just like they still do to every one of us, still.) Jesus sought fellowship, the world was and is full of religions. I don't need religion to get me into Heaven, I need and needed a Leader, just as this floundering nation, right now, needs.

Obviously, I love Church and sermons, I hang out with Deacons, Elders, Preachers and Pastors but none of them can get me to Heaven. Just my relationship, expressed through Fellowship with Jesus.
 
Look at the religious before Jesus, look at their reaction to His, foretold arrival and look at the sin in the Church, the accepted sin of the self-righteous that is covered over in the name of religion. It will never bring a twinkle to the eye of God. Religion produces, covered over, better than thou people.

I am not one bit better than Uncle Willy and I could still be out there playing on Saturday, jaming with him. The only difference is I turned it over to Jesus but hundreds of people still know Cowboy Bill, even though he died and was created a new man.
 
Good evening Free,
Jesus said it Himself, He did not come for the righteous. He came to restore what was lost and one can never accuse adam of religion but he did have Fellowship with God until lust for that good looking woman God created for him addled his brain. (Just like they still do to every one of us, still.) Jesus sought fellowship, the world was and is full of religions. I don't need religion to get me into Heaven, I need and needed a Leader, just as this floundering nation, right now, needs.

Obviously, I love Church and sermons, I hang out with Deacons, Elders, Preachers and Pastors but none of them can get me to Heaven. Just my relationship, expressed through Fellowship with Jesus.
None of this shows my point to be wrong, if that was the intent.
 
Look at the religious before Jesus, look at their reaction to His, foretold arrival and look at the sin in the Church, the accepted sin of the self-righteous that is covered over in the name of religion. It will never bring a twinkle to the eye of God. Religion produces, covered over, better than thou people.
People are self-righteous regardless of whether or not they consider themselves religious; that has nothing to do with whether or not Christianity is a religion. The Bible clearly teaches that there is bad, empty, hypocritical religion, but also that there is good, acceptable religion:

26 If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.
27 Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to visit orphans and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained from the world. (ESV)

For some reason, those who deny Christianity is a religion want to ignore the greater context of the rest of Scripture and focus only on the Jews of Jesus' day, as though that is all the Bible has to say (not that that answers the question anyway).
 
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