Who, or What, are the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11?

[Terraphim]

Part 2

There is no grace for the 4th Septum, as God is not in need of grace, and hell does not receive grace, unless one spiritually ascends by faith, from hell to the 1st heaven. There is one sort of grace in hell, however, which is the contiguity of hell to God, because God is not willing that any should perish, 2Pet.3:9.

Notes to the 4 Graces; for mortal sins.
1) All Grace: One’s previously committed sins are “in His forbearance”, Rom.3:25, until one is redeemed,
Rom.3:25/ Eph.1:13,14, for #1 imputed righteousness precedes #2 forensic justification (redemption), as
#1 The Day of Salvation precedes #2 The Day of Redemption. All-grace is not by measure.
2) Abundant Grace is the “good measure”, Luk.6:38, which is then given seven shakes, to be “shaken together”,
Luk.6:38, to provide for the Diminishing Grace of the first Septum of 7 Heavens. The “good measure” is then
“pressed down”, Luk.6:38, twice, 1) Mat.13:33 & 2) Gen.18:6, so that “three measures” of grace are indicated,
and so the leaven of sin, Mar.8:15/ 1Cor.5:8, is overcome by the leaven of grace, Mat.13:33/ Lev.7:13.
3) Abounding Grace, “pressed down” the first time.
4) Sufficient Grace, “pressed down” the second time.
Each of these measures are “shaken together” seven times, according to Diminishing Grace.
There is also the possibility of Exceeding Grace, which is grace that is “running over”, Luk.6:38,
beyond each of the three measures of grace (meal, Mat.13:33/ Gen.18:6).

The Cost of the Graces.
The verse, “by His stripes we are healed” Isa.53:5 applies thus, as we count the cost of the vicarious atonement;
1) The Lord’s “sweat like great drops of blood”, Luk.22:44, applies to All Grace (for previous sins, Rom.3:25).
2) The Lord’s crown of thorns applies to Abundant Grace (70x7=490 sins, which is according to diminishing grace,
by ascending course; 70x7,6,5,4,3,2,1).
3) The Lord’s scourging (beaten with 10 strikes, Mat.26:67, one for each commandment; scourged with lashes
40-1=49; struck 1 time with a reed, Mat:27:30, for scribal error) of 49 lashes applies to Abounding Grace
(7x7=49 sins, which is according to diminishing grace, by ascending course, 7x7,6,5,4,3,2,1).
4) The Lord’s crucifixion (4 nails, and the triple penetration of the spear; side, pericardial sac (contains the
translucent pericardial fluid, which is like “water”, Joh.19:34, and heart; 4+3=7) applies to Sufficient Grace
(for 7 sins, which is according to diminishing grace, by ascending course, 7,6,5,4,3,2,1).
5) The Lord’s hair pulled out from His beard when He was beaten, Isa.50:6/Mar.14:65, applies to Exceeding Grace
(if given).

We are enabled by grace, through the Power of the Holy Spirit, to “work out our own salvation”, Php.2:13,13, as we spiritually ascend.

Grace is by measure, Eph.4:7, which is the same measure whether it is the Supplicative Grace of the First Witness, or the Imputed Grace of the Second Witness. Jesus came not “to destroy but to fulfill”the Law and the Prophets, Mat.5:17, by leaving the first covenant intact, while stablishing the second covenant. In fulfilling the Hebrew scripture which foretold the Messiah, Jesus came so that believers “may have life,and that they may have it more abundantly”, Joh.10:10, by which rubric the first 2 of the Four Graces are indicated, 2Co.9:8,14, as follows. Grace is given at the beginning of 1) The Day of Salvation, by the gift of the Holy Spirit, which separates the soul from the world, and is as the water of Life, which makes the soul clean from the sinful pollutions of the world, 2Pe.2:20. Grace is further given at the beginning of 2) The Day of Redemption, and is applied retroactively to cover the uptake cost of the 1st Day, Act.8:18/ Act.19:6/ 1Ti.5:22/ 1Ti.2:8. If an ascendant has made it to the 2nd Day, then usually the measure for the 1st Day has not been exceeded, Rom.3:26 “might be”. If it has been exceeded, then the rules for Exceeding Grace may be applied. If the 1st Day’s measure of grace has been exceeded, and exceeding grace was not given, or the time of Day has expired, then the cost of the 1st Day could be required of the descendant, Mat.25:9/ 2Pet.2:20/ Heb.6:8. Fortunately, the 1st Day’s measure of grace is, in fact, abundant, and the Holy Spirit does increasingly work within the workers to motivate them to be more careful and more effective in tending to the coming harvest.

There is Assurance of Salvation, for God is true. However, there is no Eternal Security, either while incarnate, Heb.6:4-8, or thereafter, Psa.82:6,7. Yet, for those who have lost their salvation, there may be hope of renewal, as given by Elihu in the Book of Job.
Job 33:28 He will redeem his soul from going down to the Pit, And his life shall see the light.
Job 33:29 "Behold, God works all these things, Twice, in fact, three times with a man,
Job 33:30 To bring back his soul from the Pit, That he may be enlightened with the light of life.
Here we see in verse 28 that God provides initial salvation. In verse 30, we see that God brings a man’s soul back from the pit, unto the Life of salvation. The fact that a man’s soul comes back to salvation means that the man was previously saved. So, there is hope for the lost, even though in the NT we find that it is impossible to renew again unto repentance those who have fallen away, Heb.6:4-6.The return to salvation is nevertheless still possible, for Jesus said that “all things are possible to him who believes”, Mar.9:23. More importantly, Jesus also said that “with God all things are possible”, Mat.19:26. This situation appears perplexing, but the solution has to do with the fact that the word “repentance” is used, and because it is understood from the text that is is impossible for man to renew them to repentance. Biblical repentance is a gift of God, Rom.2:4/ 2Ti.2:5, and so it is not only of those who are repentant. Therefore, while it is impossible for one of the brethren to lead one who has fallen away to be repentant, yet it is possible for God. If God leads one back to salvation in repentance, then the original salvation is renewed, such that the Son of God is not crucified again, and neither is He thereby put to open shame. A local church body might not accept such a one back, but salvation may indeed be renewed.

Be blessed, be well.

 

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Errors for Post #140:
1) Misquote; Rev.11:11a “after the three-and-a-half days”
2) sp. caterpiller.

Terraphim said:
The Biblical expression of “a time and times and the dividing of time”, indicates the fact that the brethren of God must continue to suffer varying degrees of the worldly authority of Romanesque style government while we are still incarnate, with the knowledge that worldly government is increasingly overruled from the spiritual realm, from the kingdom of God, to the extent that human government will eventually be largely brought under the control of the united trilateral brethren, Dan.7:26,27.

Then Terraphim said:
2) When the time period of the Times of the Gentiles is fulfilled, Luk.21:24, it may be fulfilled by the prevalence of the unified trilateral brethren over worldly government, rather than by the establishment of a third temple, Rev.11:2.

Then Terraphim further said:
4) The government which began as the 1st NT Beast, the HRE/EU, Rev.13.5, may continue even though the souls of the servants of the Beast will suffer incarnate hell, Rev.19:20, as also will the servants of the 2nd NT Beast, the AAE, Rev.13:12. For those servants of the Beast who repent and believe, the prevalence of the united trilateral brethren would provide the framework for their glory and honor, such that they may have glory and honor to bring into the kingdom of God, Rev.21:24. For after the brethren prevail, the true Church that is upon His one shoulder, will then balance the government that is upon His other shoulder, Isa.9:6. This is the primary balance of power, which must be so, for the existence and continuity of true civilization in this precious and fragile world.


The Daist perspective concerning the fulfillment of the Times of the Gentiles differs from the superficial perspective. The Jews erred in believing that the Messiah would lead them to military victory over the Gentiles. Likewise, scripture does not specify that the fulfillment of the Times of the Gentiles has to be by a military victory during the Second Coming, Rev.19:20,21, and by the building of a third temple. God doesn’t need a temple in which to dwell, 1Ki.8:28. Godly world government does not require a third temple. Godly world government requires the prevalence of godly people who work towards true justice for peace. The laws and practices of worldly government are not oriented so, but rather they are oriented towards exploitation. This is generally done in a clever manner, to minimize unrest. The short-term minimization of unrest is not the same thing as building a lasting peace according to true justice. Those who work towards right doctrine and true justice are also working towards minimizing the need for militarism during the Second Coming.

Godly people who work towards justice for peace do not have to occupy positions of power in government, and most do not, and most should not. For example, Christianity is the judicial branch of the kingdom of God, Mat.19:28/ Joh.12:48/ Rev.19:11, but there are clear warnings about being judgmental, Mat.7:1/ Luk.6:37. That is because worldly government is not for the neophyte, and it is not for the majority of Christians. For the neophyte and the majority, the primary concern is the straightening of one’s ways for the purpose of spiritual ascension in the kingdom of God, wherein we serve in the spiritual government, Rev.2:26. Of course, one may support the godly people who serve in positions of power in the world. They may be supported because they are not servants of the Beast, which seeks to keep the people of God in captivity, but rather they work towards freeing the Church from worldly oppression. Their work is not easy. It is of foremost necessity in this work for them to have a true understanding of scripture, and to maintain their spiritual well-being by their steadfast devotion and integrity.

On the other hand, one may understandably take the stance that worldly government is too evil to allow oneself to become involved, even by taking on a burden of responsibility by voting, such that one may be completely free to be better able to work from the spiritual realm.

Either way, some good work may be done in the world. If one would look forwards to a true and righteous government resulting from the Second Coming, then one should begin by working towards a righteous Church in the present time, according to true doctrine, even if that means that one must work as an independent minister.

1Pe 4:17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
1Pe 4:18 Now "IF THE RIGHTEOUS ONE IS SCARCELY SAVED, WHERE WILL THE UNGODLY AND THE SINNER APPEAR?" (capitalization indicates an OT quote)
1Pe 4:19 Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit their souls to Him in doing good, as to a faithful Creator.

Hasten the Vision of His Manifestation to you by doing good, 2Pe.2:11,12.

For “no one is good but One, that is God”, Mat.19:17, yet “we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them”, Eph.2:10. Therefore, “Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.”, Rom.12:21.

Be blessed, be well.

 

[Terraphim]

In post #140 Terraphim said (with a few small corrections):

The Heaven of Heavens is the;
NEW JERUSALEM CITY OF GOD ETERNAL = 28 Foundations = 24 Heavens + 4 Hells,
which is composed of 4 Septums;
ADONAIS ELOLAMS ELOHIMS ELELYON = 28 Foundations/ 4 Septums = 7 Generations per Septum,
just as there are;
VISIBLE DAYS OF THE MOON PLUS DARK = 28 heavens, of the lunar cycle,
and as there are about;
25&1/2 PLUS 2&1/2 THOUSAND YEARS = 28 heavens, in solar years, of the axial precession cycle extended to metaphysical completion (round 25,772 up to 26,000 years, then add the 1,000 years of the Devil’s binding from 866-1866AD, and then add the 1,000 non-temporal years of the eternal millennial reign of Jesus Christ, such that there are 28,000 years; and then a day is as a thousand years, such that 28,000 years = 28 days, that is 28 Days, or 28 Heavens).

So, there are 28 spiritual Heavens, which reside upon 28 foundations. These are signified by 28 lunar heavens, and by 28 solar heavens. The solar heavens are described by the OT phrase “a time times and the dividing of times”, Dan.7:25, which compares to the NT phrase “three-and-a-half days”, Rev.11:11, etc.

The period of time of the axial precession is about 25&1/2 thousand years, which is “a time”; the 2 one thousand year periods are “times”, and the approximate rounding-up of the 25&1/2 to 26 thousand year period is 1/2 thousand years, which is “the dividing of time”, of Dan.7:25.

End quote.


The second part of the above quote discusses the Daist Equivalency Doctrine, which shows forth the equivalent aspects of the sun and moon, which God made to be a sign to mankind. My point in the post #140 was to set forth the four boldfaces of the capstone, that are the four aspects of the 28 Heavens, such that I could then further set forth the distribution of the four graces. I therefore did not then pursue a further discussion of the significance of the Equivalency Doctrine to mankind, as I now shall do.

In Western Christian tradition it is the common perspective for people to view that which is solar to be masculine, and that which is lunar to be feminine. God created the sun, earth, and moon system with certain characteristics which would usually be understood by the majority of people to be irrefutable evidence that there is a God who is the creator. First, there is the most outstanding fact that only one face of the moon has been visible throughout history. The exact synchronicity of the moon’s rotation to it’s orbit of the earth is clearly not coincidental. Second, there is the next most outstanding fact that from the surface of the earth, the moon appears to be the exact same size as the sun, as seen when there is a full eclipse of the sun by the moon, that is a full solar eclipse. The probability of either of these phenomena occurring by chance is very small, and the probability of both of them occurring by chance is almost nonexistent. This is obvious, Rom.1:20, as God intended by His creation.

What is not as obvious is the relation of the lunar cycle and the solar cycle, each of which result from an independent axis of the earth’s rotation. The 28 periods of the lunar cycle (of about29.5 days) results from the earth’s polar rotational axis. The 28 (metaphysically completed) periods of the solar cycle (of about 25,500 plus 2,500 years) results from the earth’s precession axis. The relation of these two cycles are not initially equivalent (when a day is as a thousand years), because the solar cycle is short by about 2,500 years, and the following is what is signified thereby.

The sun is related to the masculine, and the base estate of the soul of man is natural depravity in spiritual death (as it also is for women). Being for transgression cast down into mortal incarnation, a man’s soul no longer has the immortal Life of the spirit body, as the spirit body has been broken, Psa.44:19/ Jer.2:13, and the soul has been solitarily parted unto hell, before incarnation. The return to the Life of God entails that a man must be saved and then spiritually ascend unto the 4th estate, such that the regeneration of the Second Birth is completed by the resurrection of the spirit body within the physical bodies.The concurrent general resurrection takes about three-and-a-half years, that’s a time, times and half a time. So, in the base estate, a man is lacking his God, his spirit body, and his better half (so to speak), just as the solar cycle is lacking 1,000 + 1,000 + 500+ years. The 25,000 year solar cycle is a time, which is metaphysically completed by times and half a time, just as a man’s soul is spiritually completed by his spirit body in 3.5 years. In this process, three things are needed for a man’s soul, his subjection to Christ’s dominion, and the binding of Satan’s dominion, along with his other half. These three things compare to the non-temporal eternal millennial reign of Christ, the 1,000 year binding of Satan from 866AD to 1866AD, Rev.20:2, and the beloved double portion of the spirit body.

To elaborate on some details which are incidental to this discussion, the 1,000 year binding of Satan was through a pope’s decree concerning the use of torture given in 866AD, until the 1866AD birth of Karl Marx, who set about the process of deceiving and gathering Gog and Magog (China and Russia) to the battle of Armageddon, Rev.20:8/ Rev.16:16/ Eze.38,39. Armageddon is not same as the Last Battle, Rev.19:19. The First Resurrection (compared to the early harvest, of grain) is before 1866AD, (Rev.20:5b, which pertains to Rev.20:4c/ Rev.14:16), and the Second Resurrection (compared to the late harvest, of fruit) is after 1866AD, (Rev.14:19, where the blood of the grapes of wrath is from the resurrection of condemnation, Joh.5:29, which is for those who are spiritually resurrected, but then completely loose their salvation, and the blood of the grapes of wrath is not from those of the resurrection of life, which is the resurrection of the just and unjust, Act.24:15, who are the Two Witnesses; for the resurrection of condemnation, and the resurrection of Life for the just and unjust, the Two Witnesses, are both ongoing processes).

The 28 intervals of the lunar cycle is in itself complete, but without the sun’s light, it would be all darkness. So also, a woman cannot be Born Again without the love of God through a godly man. If lacking immediacy, for such purpose a minister stands true, or else one unknown. The face of the moon is always towards the earth, just as a godly woman maintains her faithfulness, for the integrity of the Life of her spirit body, and the life of her very soul, Rom.8:12.

End Part 1

 

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Part 2

The Daist Equivalency Doctrine is not a doctrine of gender equity. There is nothing in scripture which may rightly be understood to be in favor of gender equality. I know the relevant verses, and how they are misinterpreted. The Daist Equivalency Doctrine is a doctrine of gender unity. There is “neither male nor female” as individuals, in Christ Jesus, Gal.3:28, rather there is “male and female” in spiritual unity in the Lord, Mat.19:4-6/ Eph.5:31,32. Do not be deceived by the false freedom of the world, for it is the freedom of death, 2Pet.2:9.

Women are to be silent in Church services, with the understandable exceptions of child care, singing, responding to legitimate questions, an occasional women’s ministry report, and during an emergency situation. Women are not allowed to administer the first-work rites, or to hold positions of authority in the Church. If a position of authority in the world is held by a woman, it is not meritorious in the kingdom of heaven. Modesty of feminine dress and apparel is proper for social occasions, but may be modified to suit an appropriate work environment, so long as a clear gender distinction is made. Competitive behavior towards men, and engaging in clearly masculine occupations, is unwell. A woman must repent even of working for money for herself, rather than for the love of God through man, 1Co.11:3. An exception to these rules may occur when a situation arises in which necessity, such as environmental adversity, or the lack of an available and willing man, requires a woman to act in a manner which is ordinarily prohibited. God knows, and Joshua Judges Ruth.

We are clearly admonished by the word of God, “You shall not permit a sorceress to live.”, Exo.22:18. A sorceress, an enchantress, a witch, are all words which indicate one thing in regards to men, which is the intent to be in control of, or to dominate men, even as whores seek to entice, use, and control men, to wrongfully take their money. Women who act towards men in this manner are part of the Great Whore of Babylon, who rides the 1st and 2nd Beast. Men of God are not to permit such perversely minded women to Live the Life in the Spirit through them, 1Co.11:3. It is better to cast them out to be destroyed by Satan, even if she is as your right eye or your right hand, Mat.5:29,30. A woman must repent even of working for money for herself, rather than for the love of God in man. Life in the Spirit is very precious, and one must safegaurd it, whether one is a man or a woman. It is out of love that one is properly admonished.

However, we are not to disparage women who are part of the Great Whore, as we understand the policy of the NT Beasts, which is to exploit women for the purpose of overcoming Gog and Magog, which is done according to the foreknowledge of God, as expressed in scripture. We are, rather than being disparaging, to provide opportunity for worldly women to properly understand the gospel of liberty in Christ, and to repent from their former mentality and behavior, such that they may be saved and enter the Life, Joh.4:7-9/ Joh.8:11.

This does not mean that because we allow worldly people into the congregation, that women may set up a church coven. Rather, we cause such co_ven_s to become convents, as the repentant women kneel n before the cross t to make their confession of faith to God. In the pursuit of such a goal, it may even be necessary for godly men to leave behind the hypocritical church, to begin an independent ministry, 2Ti.3:5.

In all relations regarding women, men are to lift up holy hands in prayer, while letting go of wrath and doubting, 1Ti.2:8, rather than using force. This prohibits also the discipline of a girl by a man. Likewise, a woman must not use corporal punishment on a boy. An incident which requires the corporal punishment of a child, must be agreed upon by both parents before being administered. For these reasons, the single parenting of an opposite gender child may be dealt with by the assignment of a same gender Godparent, with the responsibilities thereof, as provided by the Church.

Of course, anything having to do with children in the Church will have the minions of the Great Whore desiring to do whatever foul harm they may, for what whores hate the most is any up and coming competition, which is why they work so hard to enforce the corruption of the children by employing the Beast. Eventually however, they will all be overcome, along with the damage that they do to Christian children’s development and home life. The psycho-sorcerers are especially untrustworthy in this regard, as are the professionals, and society people in general. Friendship with the world is enmity with God, Jas.4:4. They need to have faith and repent, not just in word but in deed. Even so, they are encouraged to do what good that they may, in whatever position they find themselves. In His time, He makes all things wonderful, in His time. Endure to the end.

Be blessed, be well.

 

[Terraphim]

8/18/24

Ah, my main thread has been escorted to the “dumping ground”, at last. Note that my other thread is still in the Orthodox Forum, as it is about the establishment church tactic of demonizing those who actually complete the Second Birth (concurrent spiritual General Resurrection). According to “most Christians”, all other denominations of Christianity are unorthodox ,consequently there really is no such thing as human defined orthodoxy. So, I failed to be a dancing bear, Lk.7:32, and rather, I continued to take my stand like a Berean, Act.17:10,11. Now I have the privilege of speaking to “those under the earth”, Phi.2:10, as well; to the underground. For the gospel was “to the Jew first”, Rom.1:16, then to the Gentile. Likewise now, to the establishment first, then to the free men. That is, to those who actually are free, for “the truth shall make you free”, Joh.8:32, rather than being as those who merely claim to be free as adherents of a charlatan church. So... it appears that in this Unorthodox Forum we might have a moderator, but he “will not interfere” with us, whatever that may mean, if anything. An argumentative moderator is a contradiction in terms, anyways. One who moderates should first become skilled at extracting identifiable and relevant meaning from posts which may be somewhat discursive, rather than being an irritant to elicit a negative response, thereby instigating a pretext to ban the poster. Failure to follow the proper course of action is evidence of motives which are other than an honest discussion of the word of Truth. The proper demeanor, for those other than site operatives, is the Jewish manner of “ironing out” differences, “for as iron sharpens iron, So a man sharpens the countenance of his friend.”, Pro.27:17, which is the proper manner of general theological discourse. Note that there is no mention of actual swordplay, though if necessary one who is childish might get verbally spanked by the flat of the blade. Even so, though I’m now being viewed as unorthodox by this site, I’m still thankful to be allowed to continue posting here.
Ecclesia reformata semper reformanda.

In my preceding post I wrote:

So, there are 28 spiritual Heavens, which reside upon 28 Foundations. These are signified by 28 lunar heavens, and by 28 solar heavens. The solar heavens are described by the OT phrase “a time times and the dividing of times”, Dan.7:25, which compares to the NT phrase “three-and-a-half days”, Rev.11:11, etc.

I neglected to be explicit enough there, so I will revise and expand the paragraph, as follows.

So, there are 28 spiritual Heavens, or Heavenly Days, which correspond to 28 foundations. The 28 spiritual Heavens compare to both the 28 lunar heavens and the 28 solar heavens, as a metaphysically reduced lunar period of “three-and-a-half days”, Rev.11:11, etc, aligns with a metaphysically completed precessional solar period of a “time times and dividing of time”, Dan.7:25, as follows. The visible lunar period of 27 days is a singular period, which is therefore like a single day, plus the dark interregnum is two and a half days, by which reasoning the 29.5 day lunar period is metaphysically reduced to three-and-a-half-days. This is comparable to the solar precessional period of 25,772 years, as 25,000 [100x250] years is a singular period, which is therefore like one literal millennial Day (the time of a single millennium), plus a dividing of time of 772/1000 [193/250] years, plus the metaphysical completion of two times (the temporal binding of Satan from 866-1866AD is one kind of metaphysical millennial Day, and the eternal reign of Jesus Christ is another kind of metaphysical millennial Day), the sum of which is the “time times and dividing of time” of Dan.7:25 KJV. The monthly lunar cycle and the solar year precessional cycle are then unified in prophetic time, as there’s “a day for each year”, Eze.4:6, and “a day is as a thousand years”, 2Pe.3:8.

So, a lunar day is as a solar Day, which is as a heavenly Day, that is a Heaven. Further, the length of time physical that one spiritually spends in any particular Heaven is called a Day, because the time limit is one thousand years, that’s a Day. A Day may be shortened, as one may hasten the Day by early qualification and aptitude, which may allow for advanced placement. The earlier Days are generally shortened more so than the latter Days. The unity of the solar and lunar cycles is reflected in the unity of the “male and female” re-surrected spirit Body, Gen.1:27. The spirit Body is formed of the Holy Spirit (after the Seal, the Covering, and the Infilling), as the Indwelling of the Spirit. The spirit Body is formed within 2 or 3 members of the 2nd Witness, Mat.18:20, (1 male + p<3 primary females + s<=p secondary females),or 4 or 5 members of the 1st Witness, Isa.17:6, (1 male + p<5 primary females + up to s<=p secondary females). Any secondary may be requested to replace the lowest primary position, if vacated. The Resurrection begins after the 4th Election, of Angels (after #1 Grace, #2 Peace, and #3 Love) unto the 4th Generation, the Accepted (after #1 Righteous, #2 Called, #3 Chosen). The Accepted are gathered together in Christ in the Resurrection, which is when the spirit Body is built up within the physical bodies over the course of 3.5 years, Rev.11:11; Gr. meta means transform. The Resurrection is the completion of the 2nd Birth, which results in a Myriad, which is a Leviathan, that’s an incarnate Earth Angel (Terraphim) of the lowest order, Act.6:15/ Act.12:15. The physical body, betwixt and between, taint otherwise affected. However, the next transmigration of the Myriad souls would result in exalted births, and would likely exhibit some beneficial differences, but physical hermaphroditicism is unlikely.

The General Resurrection is not end-time, is not en-mass, and is not physical; also it is not transgenderism, which is a perversion. Physically, the presence of the Y chromosome (or the testis if lacking testing) means male, and the absence of the Y chromosome (or the testis if lacking testing) means female, despite all contrary objections. To allow for other determinants results in a deterioration in social circumstances, which is not beneficial for anyone. For those who find their sexual circumstances to be intolerable in such a system, they should remember that even normal people are not allowed to do anything that they may desire. Perversion, such as atheist publicanism, feminism, and homosexuality (except for between sister wives, which is allowed), once one admits that is perversion, can be overcome by the power of God, but it usually requires a considerable and even prolonged struggle, for that is the nature of sin in general. All people who are able to understand the basic gospel may repent, be saved, and overcome sin. Normal or not, we are then to press, strive, and try to be obedient to the moral part of the Biblical Law. Then, whether we are single or not, we may look forward to fulfillment in the concurrent Resurrection. Those who live in actual sin, as a practice, are not going to advance in the kingdom of heaven, and are not to expect to be on an equal footing with the the other members of their gender in church. On the other hand, church participants must not give creedence to whatever unsubstantiated rumors that they may hear, and twisty government talk is not substantiation. In particular, those who practice sin (aside from a natural common-law relationship) may not be church members, and they especially may not occupy church office. A church which fails in it’s duty before God to uphold the moral Law is a hypocrite church, and therefore one should not continue in attendance, 2Ti.3:5. If all the churches in one’s area are hypocrite churches, then one must begin an independent ministry, to whatever extent that one is able.

I also have a significant revision to make in regards to the Four Creatures before the Throne. My formerly stated position was that the Lion, the Calf, the Man, and the Eagle, are the first four spirit Body forms, or levels of spiritual maturity, that follow upon the four stages of the Regeneration (the Second Birth), for a total of 7 stages (with the 4th overlapping the 1st). That was a condensed form, as I was unsure at that time whether I would release any material beyond the first Septum. However, NT scripture does fairly explicitly go up to the 12th Heaven, as there are twelve Foundations in the New Jerusalem. So, having gone that far, and because a knowledge of the fullness of the Heavens is necessary to properly understand the distribution of diminishing grace, I decided to reveal the rest of the Heavens, which then made it necessary to go beyond the condensed form of the Four Creatures, unto the completion of the 21 ranks of Angels.

That is, 28 minus the 4 Hells, that’s 24, and minus the triune Godhead, that’s 21 ranks of Angels. Technically though, the first 3 Generations have not yet completed the spirit Body form, so it’s actually only 18 ranks of Angels, but who decided to try counting how many Angels can fit on the head of a pin, anyway? The head of the pin, by the way, is the polar point that’s also the center point of the horizon on the charted zodiac. The center point may also be called the throne, which is compared to God’s Throne, from whence God’s being extends throughout all of creation.

Be blessed, be well.

 

[Terraphim]

8/18/22

Further, it must be noted that there are 13 constellations of the observed precessional zodiac (clockwise) for the purpose of calculating the length of an age, such that when an age is given as being 2,000 years in duration, the precessional period is 2,000 x 13=26,000 (actually 25,772/13=1982&6/13 years/age). Of course, the fact that one should press, strive, or try to shorten one’s Days, such that one’s next election is hastened (rather than only scraping by somewhat before a thousand years has gone by), means that one may Ascend unto the Translation significantly faster than by tarrying for nearly the length of a full precessional cycle, by means of transmigration. However, one does have that whole time period to Ascend unto the Translation. For Jesus was asked by the Gergesene demons, “Have You come here to torment us before the time?”, Mat.8:9. Back to the point, the 13th constellation of the observed precessional zodiac (clockwise) applies to the calculation of the ages, but the 13th constellation, Ophiuchus, does not apply to the numbering of the Angelic ranks (by zodiac signs), even though the ranks of the Ascension are also precessional (clockwise). That is because 28 Heavens minus 4 Hells is 24 Foundations, which is divisible by 12 signs, and not by 13 signs. This forms a 12/12 division between a lower room and an upper room; as above, so below; be holy as I AM holy. The term “upper room” is used in an ordinary manner in scripture, however, it may be taken to imply that there is a spiritual division.

Incidentally, the rumor was that the Gergesenes were sent kiboots from the Essene kibbutz. One of their differences of opinion, it appears, was that they believed that the word Essene should be spelled with one “s” instead of with two “ss”. Because of such guesswork, during the initial split they came to be called the Guessenes, but because that name also had two “ss”, they started to become radicalized, so they started shaking their fists in the air, and growling, Grrr. They were then called the Grrr Guessenes. Of course, they changed it to Gergesenes, with only one “s”, and when they were given the kiboot, they broke their chains of fellowship, and moved to the other end of the Jewish world, to the backside of the Sea of Galilee. The Essenes then viewed them as kibosh, as if they had ended in death, and were among the graves. Then they had a further division, and could not agree on whether they had one man or two to lead their radical legion. They had been demonized, though they believed themselves to be of the elect, even unto the higher Election of Angels, to be Terraphim. That was the state in which Jesus found them, for as He was believed to be the Elect One by some Essenes, He sought them out to see if they could be reconciled, which they were. However, they were told to remain where they were, to establish an independent ministry, and to do unofficial missionary work to their Jewish brethren in Berea. The moral of the story is that we are all engaging in guesswork compared to God, who’s “thoughts are higher than your thoughts”, Isa.55:9, yet He teaches us by the Holy Spirit, even in the night, Job 33:15,16/ Psa.19:2. That’s how the story goes...I guess... Grrr... Sorry. Actually though, I didn’t even raise my fist, though I may have emitted a low growl; unlike many of the opposition, who go far beyond averse or threatening behavior.

Regarding the Four Creatures, I previously said that the fourth Heaven of the Regeneration is where the lowest spirit Body form of the 1st Creature, the Lion (Leo/winged lion/dragon/Leviathan), is built up within the physical bodies, through the concurrent spiritual Resurrection. That much is accurate. The Calf Creature (Taurus), however, is not actually next, rather the next sign/stage of spiritual maturity is according to the order of the observed precessional zodiac (clockwise), which is Cancer, then Gemini, and then it’s the 2nd Creature, Taurus the Bull Calf. That means that the Four Creatures before the Throne include all four quadrants of the charted zodiac, although the Four Creatures do not start with Scorpio the Scorpion, but rather they end with Scorpius the Eagle. That’s because the spirit Body is not formed until the beginning of the 4th Day, which is represented by Leo the Lion, which is at the beginning of the 2nd precessional quadrant (clockwise). The beginning of the 1st quadrant is Scorpio, but during that 1st Day a soul is only Sealed, and does not have a spirit Body, which is necessary for it to be one of the Four Creatures.

The starting point for the observed zodiac (solar precessional, clockwise) is not the same as the starting point for the charted zodiac (lunar monthly, counterclockwise). The charted zodiac starts with the beginning of Aries at the 9 o’clock position (counterclockwise) and is completed at the 8 o’clock position. The observed zodiac starts with the constellation of Scorpius (the charted sign of which is Scorpio), which starts at the 1 o’clock position (clockwise) and is completed at the 2 o’clock position.

The propriety of the Scorpio starting point for the observed precessional zodiac (clockwise) is indicated in three ways. Firstly, it is three signs before Leo, and those four signs are as the four levels of the Second Birth, the Regeneration of the spirit Body. The Regeneration is completed by the spiritual Resurrection on the fourth Day (the third Day after salvation), and the Resurrected spirit Body is the Leviathan. Asa winged lion, Leo corresponds to the Leviathan, a winged serpent, a dragon. The Leviathan is the lowest intact spirit Body form, as indicated by the fact that Lucifer was cast down to that level, Rev. 12:3, where he is called the red dragon, Rev.12:3/ Gen.3:1. (A Leviathan is an evil spirit only when a spirit Body descends to the dark side of the 4th Foundation, either from a first fall, or when one who is Resurrected latter descends towards condemnation; but a Leviathan is not evil in an Ascending Resurrection, and does not prefer sin, 1Jn.3:9.) Secondly, the Scorpio starting point is indicated by the fact that Scorpio is the only sign that does not correspond to the name of it’s constellation, Scorpius. The two names are like the two forms, the Scorpion and the Eagle. The Scorpion represents the newly saved convert, and the Eagle represents the believer who Translates in to the upper room. That occurs as one spiritually Ascends into the 13th Foundation, at the beginning of the second transit through Scorpio. In the second transit, one is like the Eagle, which is the Phoenix, the Firebird that rises from the ashes, as the Translation causes spontaneous somatic combustion. Another form of spontaneous somatic combustion may occur as a result of the perdition of the soul, as God “destroys both the soul and body in hell”, Mat.10:28, for Hell (as well as Heaven) is juxtaposed with the physical world, a living Hell. Thirdly, the Scorpio starting point occurs after (precessional, clockwise) the 13th constellation Ophiuchus.

Just as there are “four creatures in the midst of the throne and before the throne” (each of which begin a quadrant of the observed precessional zodiac, though the last is first because there is no Resurrection Body until the 4th) there are “four and twenty elders”, the first 12 of which are the heads of the 12 Foundations of the New Jerusalem, and the second 12 of which are the heads of the upper room,the upper 12 Foundations. The remaining 4 Foundations are the four Hells, for a total of 28 Foundations, or 28 Heavenly Days.

The highest elder would prosaically represent the Power, even though the Power has no name or form, because the Power exists without name or form. The nameless formless Power is eternally self existent, along with the name and form of the Father, and also before time, the Son was begotten by the Father, in the express image of the Father. The Godhead is therefore formlessness and form and reflected form, all in one. The Power, the Father,and the Son, are the triune Godhead, and the Presences of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, are the Trinity. God’s omnipresence is primarily expressed by the extension of the being of the Power through the Godhead into the hierarchy of the created Sons of God(Angels), and into the hierarchy of the incarnate Sons of the Resurrection (souls that are saved unto the Resurrection of the spirit Body within the physical bodies). In this manner, the universe that God created was the best possible creation, and the flaws that emerged in it were the result of the errors of the Angels who did not remain true, who misused their free will by committing acts which required the expenditure of their spirit lives to partly repay. The repayment was by the breaking of their spirit Bodies, and the rendering and incarnation of their mortal souls. Further repayment then may occur as a mortal soul takes hold of the offer of salvation, as one’s reasonable service is then performed, as one proceeds in the spiritual Ascension. In this manner we return, but though it requires both first-work qualification and reasonable service, it could not be so without the grace of God. Therefore, incremental salvation, though it requires both qualified election and abiding security, is therefore still by grace through faith alone, for you must “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure”, Phi.2:12,13. In this manner, as Daists, the Ascending march of Days is accomplished. For even as the days of the moon or as the Days of the Sun in the physical heavens, so also are we in the spiritual Heavens.

Be Blessed, be well.

 

[Terraphim]

8/18/22

The saying “as above, so below” is applicable to the 12 upper Foundations in regards to the 12 lower Foundations, especially as indicated by the order of appearance of the four night Visions of the four Glories, as we Ascend “from glory to glory”, 2Co.3:18.
1) Entry into the 1st Day is indicated as one Sees the Glory of the Power in the vicarious Anointing.
2) Entry into the 2nd Day is indicated as one Sees the Glory of the Father in the Backside of His countenance.
3) Entry into the 3rd Day is indicated as one Sees the Glory of the Son in the Manifestation of His countenance.
4) Entry into the 4rd Day is indicated as one Sees the Glory of the Spirit in the Hope of the Beloved double portion.
We see thereby that as we Ascend the lower twelve Foundations, that the oversight of the upper twelve Foundations is given according to greater need, as likened unto an obelisk mirrored in a reflecting pool, such that the lower the Foundation which a believer is entering, the higher the oversight from the upper Foundations, as evidenced from the order of appearance of the Visions of Life, Pro.29:18.

Indeed, the compendium, of cornerstone unto capstone, is even as the “key of David”, Isa.22:22/ Rev.3:7, and is as a four-sided obelisk, which has a dividing point halfway up. (Sorry, I made an edit to a preceding post concerning the 4th line; “time times and the dividing of times”, that’s the solar precessional period, that’s measured in solar years.)

NEW JERUSALEM CITY OF GOD ETERNAL 12+9+7=28
ADONAIS ELOLAMS ELOHIMS ELELYON 7+7+7+7=28
VISIBLE DAYS OF THE MOON PLUS DARK 27+(2.5=1)=28
25KY TIME + 1K1K + DIVIDING OF TIME 25+1+1+(772/1000=1)=28

NEWJERUSALEM || CITYOFGODETE || RNAL 12+12+4=28
ADONAISELOLA || MSELOHIMSELE || LYON 12+12+4=28
VISIBLEDAYSO || FTHEMOONPLUS || DARK 12+12+4=28
25KYTIME+1K1 || K+DIVIDINGOF || TIME 12+12+4=28

As I have indicated previously, as with Ezekiel’s idealized altar, the four levels of Hell are placed above the Godhead such that the highest Septum is fulfilled in the circle of justice. So, for one of those who spiritually descend unto the bottom of the fourth Hell, one experiences increased burning unto the bottom of the fourth Hell where one becomes fully exposed to the Power. Therefrom, one sees the face of the Father unto perdition, that’s the final spiritual death of the soul.

Though a comparison of the spiritual Ascent around the zodiac to a millstone is more accurate, the comparison to a tree, or an altar, or obelisk, provides us with a more vertical perspective, which accords well with spiritual Ascent and Descent. Further, an obelisk may have a reflecting pool, which provides us with the perspective of a 12/12 highest to lowest reflective oversight which we are given as we walk in the incarnate lower room of the way, on the pavers beside a reflecting pool. Further still, a four sided obelisk with four reflecting pools may have a paved circle around the pools. The lighted capstone is then the Power, and the four Hells are demarked by four paver stones placed outside of the paved circle, beyond each pool. As the four sides of the obelisk also represent the four parts of the Two Witnesses, First the Jews and Islamics, and Second the Protestants and Catholics, so the four Hells are also represented on each of the four sides. Inside the circle of Life, lettering is placed on the 8 sets of 12 lower pavers in Ascending order as one progresses toward the obelisk, and the 8 sets of 12 upper letters Ascend upon the obelisk, according to the given pattern, with the lettering on the right, and the zodiac insignia on the left sides of the reflecting pools and obelisk. The Solar letters are associated with the Jews, and the adjacent Lunar letters are associated with the Islamics. The City letters are associated with the Protestants, and the adjacent Septum letters are associated with the Catholics (as 2 x 14 stations of the cross may also be viewed as representing the Septums). I should make a drawing and a scale model.

Be blessed, be well.

 

[Terraphim]

8/18/22

Of course, this arrangement again brings into question; What is the proper Translation point? It appears likely from the double round of the zodiac (24) as compared to the 28 Heavens minus 4 Hells (24), that the Translation point is between the first round of the zodiac and the second round, which would be the Translation from the New Jerusalem (12) unto the City of God (9). Admittedly, the test of Job would seem to indicate that, as Job said that he was reproached ten times, Job 19:3, he was put down ten Foundations. As the spirit Body does not normally remain intact below the 4th Heaven, it formerly seemed to me that the Translation point from which he was put down was at the end of the 14th Heaven, such that he would stay spiritually alive at the end of the 4th Heaven.

However, I have been allowed to consider that the Lord gave the command that Job may be tested, but that his life must be preserved, Job 2:6. So, it may be the case that Job was put down from the end of the 12th Heaven unto the end of the 2nd Heaven, but without the breaking of his spirit Body. This would fit the facts of the case, and it is in accord with the charted order of the zodiac in 12 signs, as well. Further, it would provide opportunity for an ample amount of misery, which also seems to be in accord with the description of Job’s condition. So, though I’m somewhat ambivalent about this, upon further consideration, I’m now going with the 12/12 split for the Translation. Sorry for any confusion, I grrr... guess. Go ahead and growl yourself if you will, then you’ll have opportunity to be sorry, too.

It appears that for the purpose of spiritual rank, the insignia of the lower twelve Foundations would have the 12 signs of the observed zodiac, from Scorpio to Sagittarius, which correspond to the 12 Generations of the New Jerusalem, with a line above for the Jew, a line below for the Islamic, a line to the right for a Protestant, and a line to the left for a Catholic. The upper twelve Foundations would join an arc to the ends of the line, such that the arc’s radius is perpendicularly bisected by the line.

It will be as “something like a great millstone thrown into the sea”, Rev.18:21a, the bronze sea of the 154 peoples/Archangels, 2Ch.4:2-4 ({150 sets of 2}+{4 sets of 3}=154 sets of oxen)/ Joh.21:9-11 (1+153=154 kinds of fish). Alleluia! “Thus [as with the burning of Rome] with violence the great city Babylon will be thrown down [the fall of the Roman Empire], and shall not be found anymore [after the Last Battle]”, Rev.18:21b.

For the decimation of the true Church by the Great Harlot in the Romanized church is being overcome. For the Great Harlot’s slavery in the matron system was extended to the First NT Beast of the Holy Roman Empire-HRE/EU, which is now the slavery of the femi-not-sees under the Second NT Beast of the Anglo American Empire-AAE. Their dominance over the people of God is also being overcome, but for now the feminists are going to be exploited for the purpose of overcoming Gog and Magog, Russia and China, during Armageddon. Christian women who are drafted may be relieved at cost, or by a man’s sacrifice, may he be blessed. Aim high, and stay low. The cost of the victory of the HRE/EU and the AAE will diminish their evil elements in preparation for the Last Battle, which will then be won by the children of God as they serve Him in their worldly positions, and as they leave their worldy positions to free themselves to rule truly from the spiritual kingdom of God through their spirit Bodies. In any case, “Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good”, Rom.12:21.

1) True Liberty is not according to whim, but according to Word.
2) True Liberty is not the freedom of license, but the freedom from bondage to sin.
3) True Liberty either proscribes law, or swells under oppression.
4) True Liberty is not the absence of reprehension, but the presence of obligation unto God.
5) True Liberty is not of selfishness unto anarchy, but is of faith unto peace with God.
6) True Liberty proceeds from the fullness of God’s Love, and abides in His eternal Life.
7) True Liberty hones the fulfillment of the Law, upon the double edges of Justice and Mercy.

..................Ethos, Mythos, Logos;
..................Ethics, Wisdom, Word;
I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

Jer.3:19 "But I said: 'How can I put you among the children And give you a pleasant land, A beautiful heritage of the hosts of nations?' "And I said: 'You shallcall Me, "My Father," And not turn away from Me.'
Psa.111:6 “He has declared to His people the power of His works, In giving them the heritage of the nations.”

Be blessed, be well.

 

[Terraphim]

9/1/24

Until now, my systematic theology has largely been my own, as led by the Holy Spirit. However, I have been made aware that the modern movement of the Spirit has largely paralleled what I have been teaching.

I have been equating the Biblical term "first works", Rev.2:5, with the necessary sacraments, which are 2) baptism and 3) communion in Protestantism, but I'm including 1) consecration (confession of faith/anointing) and 4) pedlution (foot washing), to complete the four necessary First Works, in the proper numerical order. I am now beginning to further the presentation of the Regeneration, by integrating my body of work with the historical perspective of the movement of the Spirit. The modern Day movement of the Spirit encompasses the "1st work" of the Holiness movement, the "2nd work"of the Sanctification movement, and the "3rd work" of the Pentecostal movement.

Further, my systematic theology presents the "4th work" of the Ingathering movement, the details of which I have herein been setting forth. Just as the Feast of Harvest (Weeks/ Pentecost) marks the completion of the early harvest, of grains, so also the Feast of Ingathering (Booths/ Tabernacles) marks the completion of the later harvest, of fruits. The booth, or tabernacle, represents the Indwelling of the spirit Body, within and around the tent of the physical body. The Booth, or Sukkot, is the Sukkotus spirit Body, which is not the same thing as a Succubus, just as an ascending Leviathan is not the same thing as a descending Dragon. For one to properly abide in the kingdom of heaven, there are principles and rules which must be upheld, depending upon the Heavenly dominion which one must defend. The 4th work of Ingathering includes the understanding of the blessing of the 4 species, as I have previously discussed, which represent the four stages of spiritual development inherent to the Regeneration of the spirit Body.

Of course, the anointing of lamb’s blood upon the door-posts for the Feast of Passover corresponds to the Anointed Baptism of the Holy Spirit, of the 1st salvation, the Salvation of Freedom, and the Election of Grace there-unto proceeds from the qualifying factor of a true confession of faith in the one true God, which is as a sprinkling of holy water (red rose), or as an anointing of holy oil (red cinnamon).

And of course, immediately following Passover is the Feast of Firstfruits (Unleavened Bread), roasted in fire, which corresponds to the Immersive Baptism of the Holy Fire, of the 2nd salvation, the Salvation of Rest, and the Election of Peace there-unto proceeds partly from the qualifying factor of baptism by immersion.

We see from scripture that the Feast of Passover is associated with the 1st Heavenly Day, the Day of Salvation. The Feast of Firstfruits (Unleavened Bread) is associated with the 2nd Heavenly Day, the Day of Redemption, Exo.13:6,13 (firstborn by faith in the firstborn, Jesus Christ). The Feast of Harvest (Weeks/ Pentecost) is associated with the 3rd Heavenly Day, the Day of the Lord, the Lord of the Harvest. The Feast of Ingathering (Booths/ Tabernacles) is associated with the 4th Heavenly Day, the Day of Acceptance, “the acceptable year of the Lord”, Lk.4:19, which was the 4th (Jewish) year of His public ministry, 32AD, following which he was crucified at the (Jewish) beginning of 33AD. Of course, “a day for each year”, Eze.4:6, and “with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day”, 2Pet.3:8. Hence, the Lord’s acceptable year, when He became an acceptable sacrifice for our sin, is as a day, which is as a thousand years, which is one’s Day of Acceptance, which for any member of the Accepted Generation, as for all other Generations, may be hastened and shortened, the more so for the lower Generations. So, we see that the three major feast days (or four, as Passover Day comes the day before, and so, along with Firstfruits) represent the stages of the Regeneration of the spirit Body.

The 4 modern-Day movements of the Holy Spirit correspond to the first 4 Heavenly Days in the first 4 Foundations of the New Jerusalem, as heaven is juxtaposed within us, Lk.17:21. Of course, I have been providing the details of the first 4 spiritual Generations, which I have given to be understood from the perspective of individual experience, but now the four-fold Regeneration may also be understood from the perspective of four successive religious movements, which proceed from the Tetragrammaton (YHWH in the normal circular order) in linear order, YHHW (lightning bolt descending left to right when viewed from the audience, going from stage east to west, Mat.24:27).

Consider that by Y the Power of God's grace through faith we leave the worldly system (Egypt), even as Lev.11:45, that's the Holiness movement. Next, H the Father sanctifies us by His truth in the word, Joh.17:17, that's the Sanctification movement. Next, H the Son manifested Himself during the count of Weeks, just as He said that He would for all believers who love Him by keeping His commandments (though not likely by obeying them perfectly), Joh.14:21, that's the Pentecostal movement. Next, the emerging fourth work, W the Holy Spirit working from within the heavenly hierarchy builds up one's Resurrected spirit Body, 1Co.15:42,44 within the physical bodies of those who are Elected to the 4th Generation. The wonder of my joy, at the movement of the Spirit in the world today, for it is indeed as birth pains, Joh.16:21, as the Spirit-led religious movements reflect the four stages of the personal Regeneration of the spirit Body, which is the Second Birth (though it's not wrong to say that one is Born Again at the beginning of the first stage, by a true confession of faith).

The four Visions, unto which I am a witness, of the Second Witness, are the Visions of Life, Pro.29:18 KJV, because each Vision declares a new Day to which one is Elected. I believe that these four night-Visions are substantially the same for all of the branches of the people of God, except that for the First Witness, the Jew and the Islamic, the Manifestation of Jesus on the third Day is veiled, such that they believe that they are Seeing Moses or Mohammed, respectively. In this manner they are saved by Jesus as well, but unknowingly. This preserves the Christian scriptures which say that one may only be saved by Jesus.

As Christians, we are usually aware that we are slaves of the Lord Jesus Christ. Of course, this is usually understood to be the slavery of servitude; as in reasonable service. We also should know that Jesus was and is “a servant to the circumcision”, Rom.15:8, that is, to the Jews who are true. This should not be shocking to us, as the judicial branch, though established with an equal balance of power, cannot supersede the legislative branch, to which it is dependent. The same sort of circumstance occurs in regards to the executive branch. The executive branch also has an equal balance of power, but though it is first in action, it cannot rightly supersede either the legislative or judicial branches, to whom it is dependent; and so, though equal in principle, the first in action is the last in authority. These things are necessary in the world, and they are necessary in the kingdom of God, as well. Therefore, true Islamics are also slaves to the true Jews, Isa.45:14,15, and further they are subject to true Christians. We, therefore, are responsible for their instruction, lest they continue to suffer the curse which God has inflicted upon all who curse the Jews. This is the way of Life, nightingale. True Jews are also slaves of God.

continued...

 

[Terraphim]

9/1/24 continued.

The teaching of the four tetrads of blood moons, which have occasioned the period of Jewish history which began with the modern reach for the new world, have all signified periods of Moorish (Mauritanian)/Islamic uprising against the Jews. The Spanish Alahambra Decree, the Edict of Expulsion, was issued in 1492, the year that Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue. Columbus returned to Castile early in 1493, thereby establishing the beginning of Spanish claims to the new world, as well as establishing the beginning of Jewish escape from old world persecution. The first relevant blood moon tetrad occurred then, in 1493-1494. The 2nd relevant tetrad occurred in 1949-1950, a year after the Jewish war of independence against the Islamic coalition in 1948, which indicates that the war was only the beginning of the struggle for the establishment of the Jewish state.The 3rd relevant tetrad occurred in 1967-1968, which coincided with the Jewish six day war, which resulted from Islamic state provocation, and resulted in the liberation of Jerusalem, for all three faiths. The 4th relevant tetrad was in 2014-2015, which coincided with the general offensive of ISIL (ISIS), the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which was put down, and other concerns of this period, which are being, and will be, likewise put down. The children of the moon God Sin (Zin) shall not prevail over the Power, the God.

The 4th relevant tetrad occurred during the time period when I began to understand the overall structure that is presented in scripture, for much of my systematic theology that I have presented in this thread developed during that period of time, and onwards. Now I see that God not only works in the four stages of the Regeneration, but that He is also working through four historical movements of the Spirit, which are comparable to the personal Regeneration, which is the historical Restoration. Further, I also see how God is working through the Restorian movement to effect reconciliation throughout the four folds of the Two Witnesses, by the commonality of the spiritual Regeneration, even though doctrines may vary. It is in this way that the promise of God to Abraham is being effected, for God said that “in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed”; or shall you say in your pride that the God has given you a thing that is too hard to do?

For indeed, the obelisk is as a tower, or minaret, or steeple, which points the way unto the sky that receded...

Rev 6:12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.

2014-2015 a tetrad of blood moons.
Oct. 25, 2022 a partial solar eclipse, 1/3 obscured like the percentage obscured by coarse sackcloth screening a window.
Feb. 6, 2023 a magnitude 7.8 in Turkey and Syria.

Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.

The doctrine of “the breaking of the angelic body, and the rendering of the incarnate mortal soul”.

Rev 6:14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.

The doctrine of “the 3.5 year lunar/solar unity” (axial recession), which moved out the erroneous “middle of the 70th week” doctrine.

Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains,
Rev 6:16 and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
Rev 6:17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"

Which indicates Armageddon, because...

Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory.

Which heat causes famine, which is why...

Eze 38:4 I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords.

Eze 38:16 You will come up against My people Israel like a cloud, to cover the land. It will be in the latter days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me, when I am hallowed in you, O Gog, before their eyes."

Eze 38:23 Thus I will magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the LORD." '

However, Armageddon is not the Last Battle, which is a ways off yet, and it is not certain to what extent the Last Battle will be actual physical warfare.


Be blessed, be well.

 

[Randy]

Anything beyond 2 people God appointed as His witnesses is pure speculation.

Their bodies lay in the street and are refused burial. Everything points to two unnamed people. When these events take place, it will be a sign that can't be mistaken for those who believe that the coming of the Lord is at the door for the beast that comes up out of the abyss and overpowers and kills them has an appointed reign of just 42 months. That beast is not destroyed by man but is overthrown by a coming of the Lord and the armies of heaven that follow Him. REV 16:15

 

[Terraphim]

9/2/24

Randy Your disapproval is as evident as you faith, for which I am grateful.

Rev 11:7 When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.

War is not waged as a matter of one individual against two individuals. War is waged by one group of people against another group of people.

Forty-two months is 3.5 years, which duration I have conclusively shown to not end half-way through a 70th week which has been misplaced to become a likewise misplaced end-time Great Tribulation.

Daniel's 70th week was from Nisan 26AD through 32AD, ending with the Lord's victory by His vicarious atonement on the cross in Nisan 33AD. The middle of the week, Dan.9:27, was the year that was in the mid-point of the 70th week, that was 29AD. Nisan 29AD was when the public ministry of Jesus began, and it lasted for four years. Therefore, Daniel's 70th week is preterist.

The Great Tribulation is also preterist, as it refers to the diaspora, the dispersion of the Jews during the time of the Gentiles. This may be ascertained by a comparison of Mat.24:21 and Luk.21:24, which is the same dialog by Jesus.

I have, and will further, discussed the two NT Beasts, and the nature and length of their authority, as well as the proper Christian relationship to them.

Thank you for your admonition of Rev.16:15, as a Bride of Christ must always be concerned with the keeping of one's wedding garment, especially under the duress of watchful observant servitude.

Be blessed, be well.

 

[for_his_glory]

9/1/24 continued.

The teaching of the four tetrads of blood moons, which have occasioned the period of Jewish history which began with the modern reach for the new world, have all signified periods of Moorish (Mauritanian)/Islamic uprising against the Jews. The Spanish Alahambra Decree, the Edict of Expulsion, was issued in 1492, the year that Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue. Columbus returned to Castile early in 1493, thereby establishing the beginning of Spanish claims to the new world, as well as establishing the beginning of Jewish escape from old world persecution. The first relevant blood moon tetrad occurred then, in 1493-1494. The 2nd relevant tetrad occurred in 1949-1950, a year after the Jewish war of independence against the Islamic coalition in 1948, which indicates that the war was only the beginning of the struggle for the establishment of the Jewish state.The 3rd relevant tetrad occurred in 1967-1968, which coincided with the Jewish six day war, which resulted from Islamic state provocation, and resulted in the liberation of Jerusalem, for all three faiths. The 4th relevant tetrad was in 2014-2015, which coincided with the general offensive of ISIL (ISIS), the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, which was put down, and other concerns of this period, which are being, and will be, likewise put down. The children of the moon God Sin (Zin) shall not prevail over the Power, the God.

The 4th relevant tetrad occurred during the time period when I began to understand the overall structure that is presented in scripture, for much of my systematic theology that I have presented in this thread developed during that period of time, and onwards. Now I see that God not only works in the four stages of the Regeneration, but that He is also working through four historical movements of the Spirit, which are comparable to the personal Regeneration, which is the historical Restoration. Further, I also see how God is working through the Restorian movement to effect reconciliation throughout the four folds of the Two Witnesses, by the commonality of the spiritual Regeneration, even though doctrines may vary. It is in this way that the promise of God to Abraham is being effected, for God said that “in your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed”; or shall you say in your pride that the God has given you a thing that is too hard to do?

For indeed, the obelisk is as a tower, or minaret, or steeple, which points the way unto the sky that receded...

Rev 6:12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.

2014-2015 a tetrad of blood moons.
Oct. 25, 2022 a partial solar eclipse, 1/3 obscured like the percentage obscured by coarse sackcloth screening a window.
Feb. 6, 2023 a magnitude 7.8 in Turkey and Syria.

Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.

The doctrine of “the breaking of the angelic body, and the rendering of the incarnate mortal soul”.

Rev 6:14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.

The doctrine of “the 3.5 year lunar/solar unity” (axial recession), which moved out the erroneous “middle of the 70th week” doctrine.

Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains,
Rev 6:16 and said to the mountains and rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!
Rev 6:17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?"

Which indicates Armageddon, because...

Rev 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and they blasphemed the name of God who has power over these plagues; and they did not repent and give Him glory.

Which heat causes famine, which is why...

Eze 38:4 I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords.

Eze 38:16 You will come up against My people Israel like a cloud, to cover the land. It will be in the latter days that I will bring you against My land, so that the nations may know Me, when I am hallowed in you, O Gog, before their eyes."

Eze 38:23 Thus I will magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the LORD." '

However, Armageddon is not the Last Battle, which is a ways off yet, and it is not certain to what extent the Last Battle will be actual physical warfare.


Be blessed, be well.

Not sure what this has to do with the topic of the OP. You might want to start a new thread so not to derail this one

 

[Randy]

9/2/24

Randy Your disapproval is as evident as you faith, for which I am grateful.

Rev 11:7 When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.

War is not waged as a matter of one individual against two individuals. War is waged by one group of people against another group of people.

Forty-two months is 3.5 years, which duration I have conclusively shown to not end half-way through a 70th week which has been misplaced to become a likewise misplaced end-time Great Tribulation.

Daniel's 70th week was from Nisan 26AD through 32AD, ending with the Lord's victory by His vicarious atonement on the cross in Nisan 33AD. The middle of the week, Dan.9:27, was the year that was in the mid-point of the 70th week, that was 29AD. Nisan 29AD was when the public ministry of Jesus began, and it lasted for four years. Therefore, Daniel's 70th week is preterist.

The Great Tribulation is also preterist, as it refers to the diaspora, the dispersion of the Jews during the time of the Gentiles. This may be ascertained by a comparison of Mat.24:21 and Luk.21:24, which is the same dialog by Jesus.

I have, and will further, discussed the two NT Beasts, and the nature and length of their authority, as well as the proper Christian relationship to them.

Thank you for your admonition of Rev.16:15, as a Bride of Christ must always be concerned with the keeping of one's wedding garment, especially under the duress of watchful observant servitude.

Be blessed, be well.

Rev 11 testifies about Rev 11 not Daniel.
Again
Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

It's clear to me. Two unnamed people.