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Why didnt God take away the choice without violating freewill

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KV-44-v1 said:
Everything that contradicts the Bible contradicts reality, but not everything that contradicts reality contradicts the Bible.

Glory to God!
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"All men will be saved" is universalism, that's New Age false religion which absolutely contradicts the bible. Have you not read that only the saints whose names are written in the Book of Life are saved? All the others are cast into the Lake of Fire.
 
KV-44-v1 said:
I don't believe all men will be saved.
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Neither do I. "God desires all men to be saved" simply indicates the inclusivity of his saving grace. Previously it was only for Israel, after Jesus, accessible to all. But as long as not all desire to be saved, not all will be saved. Salvation is not forced upon.
 
Everything that needed to happen in Genesis, did....that was God's design. The course of the Story of Man has been determined by the choices men have made...which God did foresee....which is part of the reason why Jesus needs to come again....and why this earth needs to be cleansed.

If these Churches were teaching the path to salvation properly......there would be no reason for Father to send His Son once more....

Men, whose soul within I do call Angel......need to have free will to serve God in Creation, the ability to act independently as the need arises....but there is one aspect of "free will" that will be taken by the time the Story of Man is done.....a man (Angel) will not be able to violate the purpose of their existence; and no one will ever be able to disobey Father again....not ever.
 
Enlightenedtruth said:
Everything that needed to happen in Genesis, did....that was God's design. The course of the Story of Man has been determined by the choices men have made...which God did foresee....which is part of the reason why Jesus needs to come again....and why this earth needs to be cleansed.

If these Churches were teaching the path to salvation properly......there would be no reason for Father to send His Son once more....

Men, whose soul within I do call Angel......need to have free will to serve God in Creation, the ability to act independently as the need arises....but there is one aspect of "free will" that will be taken by the time the Story of Man is done.....a man (Angel) will not be able to violate the purpose of their existence; and no one will ever be able to disobey Father again....not ever.
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Sin is against everything in God's original design. It's anti-God. Think about it, what does Satan do? "Kill, steal and destroy - everything which God had created. If you truly believe in Jesus's teaching that a house divided against itself cannot stand, then nothing would be more ridiculous than saying that sin is God's purpose.
 
Carry_Your_Name said:
Sin is against everything in God's original design. It's anti-God. Think about it, what does Satan do? "Kill, steal and destroy - everything which God had created. If you truly believe in Jesus's teaching that a house divided against itself cannot stand, then nothing would be more ridiculous than saying that sin is God's purpose.
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I hear what your saying.....but the Story of Man is in itself a punishment for our Sins.....every man, woman and child standing on this earth who has a soul....is in fact a Fallen Angel.....something most Christians will reject out of hand, that is why a lot of Christians are not going to survive this....

Not all of the Fallen Angels standing on this earth followed satan......but every one of God's Children did violate the purpose of their existence....hence this punishment, and the opportunity to find Salvation to return to Father....if you only seek the truth....

And I really don't understand why any Christian would give power to satan....satan has no power, and he never held power over God. Satan was never able to kill any of his fellow Angel's....he could not "steal" anything because the Angel's have no use for "things" or "coins"......and he only destroyed what Father allowed him to destroy......until Father put the smack down on his bottom.

For God's "original design" here on this earth......God created all things....and if He did not want Sin here on this earth, He would have never allowed it......but the Children had to be given "free reign" to make their own choices, to show what was truly in their hearts.....so that God can separate the wheat from the tares, to save the Children that can be saved......and destroy those who cannot.
 
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It was his duty to present any observations to God... Satan was assigned to watch over God's people... He became arrogant and began accusing and belittling those who God loved...
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There's no such thing. He was thrown out of heaven by God. One consensus among theologians about him is that he might be a worship leader of angels in heaven, that was his role. Not a "watcher".
 
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