Duh,,, the 7th trump is the last day, a day is a unit of time as denoted by God in Genesis 1. A unit of time that ends with the 7th trump, because the world is no longer lit by the sun, it is lit by Gods glory in our presance on earth. The marriage/joining of Jesus and the church, the resurection of the dead. The beginning of the millinial kingdom.
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Why I Left Scofieldism.
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hy I Left Scofieldism.
So after the last day, and when there is no more time, according to a strange bit of logic there will be another one thousand years.Originally Posted by warhorse
That last Day. Agreed
Rev 10v5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
Can you see a problem here? LOL
No because a day is based on a period of nightime followed by daytime. With no nighttime because of Gods blilliance there is no more marker for time. Years are denoted by seasons as we rotate around the sun 1 rotation = 1 year. no problem there. Strange yes, Problem no.
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Are you aware that Millenium means one thousand years?
Of coarse if you can determine one year you can determine a thousand years.
There is a beginning and end to the millinal reign correct? What is after the reign. And with out days how do you measure the years?
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Odd you would need to mark years when there is no longer time, but the no more days only years bit is a funny as anything I ve come across in 10 years of net forums.Of coarse if you can determine one year you canOriginally Posted by warhorse
That last Day. Agreed
Rev 10v5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.
I Dunno? Maybe he counts the seasons. its Not my plan all i have to go off of is what he has said.
I dont need to determine the years, but you dont just abandon the direct scripture of God till you understand it all.Odd you would need to mark years when there is no longer time, but the no more days only years bit is a funny as anything I ve come across in 10 years of net forums.
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Your idea is looney tunes .
So far you already have years,with out days, and a millennium
with out time at all. Crazy man crazy...
Not really, you dont have to be a scientist to note that the basis for a day is not the same as for a year. The earth could move around the sun, without spinning. thus you still have years without days. The OT shows that the earth is moved out of its place on the day of the lord.
Isaiah 13v13 Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the EARTH shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.
Isaiah 24v19 The EARTH is utterly broken down, the EARTH is clean dissolved, the EARTH is moved exceedingly.
20 The EARTH shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the EARTH upon the EARTH.
And God has stopped the progress of time on several accasions.
Joshua 10v 12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.
15 And Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, unto the camp to Gilgal.
16 But these five kings fled, and hid themselves in a cave at Makkedah.
17 And it was told Joshua, saying, The five kings are found hid in a cave at Makkedah.
Rev 20v7 And when the THOUSAND years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
All this is after the lats day? yet you have stated there are no more days. Here in verse 10 we see day again...I cant get your thoughts to come together in my head.
The distortion of Scripture Scofield/and crew has left behind is eating at the Christian community, has been for a couple generations now. It has left its threads in the hearts and minds, seminaries, and churches as if Scofield/crew were on track.
When we read the OT we can plainly see a prophet of God, a spokesmen of God was never wrong. Looking at the Scofield bible we can he was openly blatantly wrong.
When we read the OT we can plainly see a prophet of God, a spokesmen of God was never wrong. Looking at the Scofield bible we can he was openly blatantly wrong.
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Jer. 4:22-27 has an empty earth + heaven when Christ Comes the second time, (NO MAN) at the start of Rev. 1000 years! It will be as before creation with NO man, yet satan is here.
Some saints that are alive along with the Dead In Christ who are now resurected, will ALL leave Earth with Christ for this 1000 years (note Jer. 4:27) to judge the wicked that are ALL DEAD. Christ's brilliance will slay the wicked living so that they are ALL DEAD. They are judged lost at Christ's Second coming, yet they will be judge according to their evil wickedness & then be executed. This is what the 1000 years will determine.
Notice Rev. 22:11-12's Finished first Judgement when Christ returns again! Read Eccl. 12:13-14 for that ONLY QUESTION ASKED! (666 testing!)
And at the ending of the 1000 years all the dead wicked will have their resurection to die their second eternal death!
1 Cor. 6:2-3 finds us during these 1000 years having a part in Judging the wicked D-E-A-D BY RECORD BOOKS (Rev. 20:12) as for their Judicial Executional Time of suffering, as seen in Luke 12:47-48. Notice that each will be judged & punished differently at the End of the 1000 years lake of fire. Then the SECOND DEATH will find the lake of fire as called hell. See Obad. 1:16. Is Total Completeness!
--Elijah
Some saints that are alive along with the Dead In Christ who are now resurected, will ALL leave Earth with Christ for this 1000 years (note Jer. 4:27) to judge the wicked that are ALL DEAD. Christ's brilliance will slay the wicked living so that they are ALL DEAD. They are judged lost at Christ's Second coming, yet they will be judge according to their evil wickedness & then be executed. This is what the 1000 years will determine.
Notice Rev. 22:11-12's Finished first Judgement when Christ returns again! Read Eccl. 12:13-14 for that ONLY QUESTION ASKED! (666 testing!)
And at the ending of the 1000 years all the dead wicked will have their resurection to die their second eternal death!
1 Cor. 6:2-3 finds us during these 1000 years having a part in Judging the wicked D-E-A-D BY RECORD BOOKS (Rev. 20:12) as for their Judicial Executional Time of suffering, as seen in Luke 12:47-48. Notice that each will be judged & punished differently at the End of the 1000 years lake of fire. Then the SECOND DEATH will find the lake of fire as called hell. See Obad. 1:16. Is Total Completeness!
--Elijah
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I can't understand all of it either, and i don't think anyone does. But i don't see compelling evidence to ditch
direct scripture for my failure to understand it
Scolfield did satan a great service when he incorporated Darbies, dispensational viewpoints into the Scolfield study bible.
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whether or not isreal is or isnt in the end time prophecy. i do find it rather well foolish for the contra-dispensationalist to cry drill, drill, for oil when i ISREAL a nation they dont want to support via $. Has more oil then opec or rather a suffiecient amount and is more stable then iraq/et all and waiting to be drilled.