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Act 14:19 And there came thither [certain] Jews from Antioch and Iconium, who persuaded the people, and, having stoned Paul, drew [him] out of the city, supposing he had been dead.
Did the Jews/Messianic Jews of the area stone Paul according to the rules set forth by God? Was/is Paul a false prophet? Check out the criteria as set forth in Deu 13 concerning false prophets...
Deu 13:1 "If a prophet arises among you, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2 and the sign or wonder which he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, 'Let us go after other gods,' which you have not known, 'and let us serve them,'
Paul in his letters obviously stresses service to Christ with Christ being the main interest... not Jehovah. So technically, Paul is going after other gods.
Deu 13:3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or to that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you, to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Paul was a dreamer of dreams as he self admittedly got his "mystery knowledge" by visions (trances). God in this verse indicates that he plants men such as Paul to test the people....
Deu 13:4 You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear him, and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and cleave to him.
Well...that's pretty clear....Obeying God's commandments....what a novel idea...
Deu 13:5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to make you leave the way in which the LORD your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from the midst of you.
Paul "the visionary" teaches rebellion against Jehovah by his constant war against the Torah...What did Paul do? He taught Torah abstinence, in other words he insisted that people leave the way God commanded them to walk...it is no wonder that Paul was stoned, the Jews at Antioch were obeying Jehovah's commandment.
Deu 13:6 "If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, entices you secretly, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods,' which neither you nor your fathers have known,
Deu 13:7 some of the gods of the peoples that are round about you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other,
Deu 13:8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him;
Paul taught a "mystery religion" Jesus....The gentiles to whom Paul preached knew the "dying/rising" Godman from their own mystery religions...the concept was very familiar to them.
Deu 13:9 but you shall kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Deu 13:10 You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
The Jews, and I submit the Nazarene Christians did that very thing....they stoned Paul for being a false prophet....The early Nazarene Christians considered Paul an Apostate, that is historical fact. While Paul was in Jerusalem, the Messianic Nazarene Christians wanted a piece of him...Paul would have been stoned again if the Romans hadn't saved him.
Deu 13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and never again do any such wickedness as this among you.
Deu 13:12 "If you hear in one of your cities, which the LORD your God gives you to dwell there,
Deu 13:13 that certain base fellows have gone out among you and have drawn away the inhabitants of the city, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods,' which you have not known,
Deu 13:14 then you shall inquire and make search and ask diligently; and behold, if it be true and certain that such an abominable thing has been done among you,
Deu 13:15 you shall surely put the inhabitants of that city to the sword, destroying it utterly, all who are in it and its cattle, with the edge of the sword.
Deu 13:16 You shall gather all its spoil into the midst of its open square, and burn the city and all its spoil with fire, as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God; it shall be a heap for ever, it shall not be built again.
Deu 13:17 None of the devoted things shall cleave to your hand; that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and show you mercy, and have compassion on you, and multiply you, as he swore to your fathers,
Deu 13:18 if you obey the voice of the LORD your God, keeping all his commandments which I command you this day, and doing what is right in the sight of the LORD your God.
After reading this passage, Paul sticks out like a sore thumb....Paul was stoned as a false prophet. He taught of another god other than Jehovah, and he taught Torah abstinence...both big no no's according to Jehovah himself.
Did the Jews/Messianic Jews of the area stone Paul according to the rules set forth by God? Was/is Paul a false prophet? Check out the criteria as set forth in Deu 13 concerning false prophets...
Deu 13:1 "If a prophet arises among you, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2 and the sign or wonder which he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, 'Let us go after other gods,' which you have not known, 'and let us serve them,'
Paul in his letters obviously stresses service to Christ with Christ being the main interest... not Jehovah. So technically, Paul is going after other gods.
Deu 13:3 you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or to that dreamer of dreams; for the LORD your God is testing you, to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Paul was a dreamer of dreams as he self admittedly got his "mystery knowledge" by visions (trances). God in this verse indicates that he plants men such as Paul to test the people....
Deu 13:4 You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear him, and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and cleave to him.
Well...that's pretty clear....Obeying God's commandments....what a novel idea...
Deu 13:5 But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to make you leave the way in which the LORD your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from the midst of you.
Paul "the visionary" teaches rebellion against Jehovah by his constant war against the Torah...What did Paul do? He taught Torah abstinence, in other words he insisted that people leave the way God commanded them to walk...it is no wonder that Paul was stoned, the Jews at Antioch were obeying Jehovah's commandment.
Deu 13:6 "If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son, or your daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, entices you secretly, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods,' which neither you nor your fathers have known,
Deu 13:7 some of the gods of the peoples that are round about you, whether near you or far off from you, from the one end of the earth to the other,
Deu 13:8 you shall not yield to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him, nor shall you conceal him;
Paul taught a "mystery religion" Jesus....The gentiles to whom Paul preached knew the "dying/rising" Godman from their own mystery religions...the concept was very familiar to them.
Deu 13:9 but you shall kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Deu 13:10 You shall stone him to death with stones, because he sought to draw you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
The Jews, and I submit the Nazarene Christians did that very thing....they stoned Paul for being a false prophet....The early Nazarene Christians considered Paul an Apostate, that is historical fact. While Paul was in Jerusalem, the Messianic Nazarene Christians wanted a piece of him...Paul would have been stoned again if the Romans hadn't saved him.
Deu 13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and never again do any such wickedness as this among you.
Deu 13:12 "If you hear in one of your cities, which the LORD your God gives you to dwell there,
Deu 13:13 that certain base fellows have gone out among you and have drawn away the inhabitants of the city, saying, 'Let us go and serve other gods,' which you have not known,
Deu 13:14 then you shall inquire and make search and ask diligently; and behold, if it be true and certain that such an abominable thing has been done among you,
Deu 13:15 you shall surely put the inhabitants of that city to the sword, destroying it utterly, all who are in it and its cattle, with the edge of the sword.
Deu 13:16 You shall gather all its spoil into the midst of its open square, and burn the city and all its spoil with fire, as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God; it shall be a heap for ever, it shall not be built again.
Deu 13:17 None of the devoted things shall cleave to your hand; that the LORD may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and show you mercy, and have compassion on you, and multiply you, as he swore to your fathers,
Deu 13:18 if you obey the voice of the LORD your God, keeping all his commandments which I command you this day, and doing what is right in the sight of the LORD your God.
After reading this passage, Paul sticks out like a sore thumb....Paul was stoned as a false prophet. He taught of another god other than Jehovah, and he taught Torah abstinence...both big no no's according to Jehovah himself.
What have I written that doesn't make any sense. Vic...both Jesus' and Stephen's stoning were for a different motive...that being political...Jesus and Stephen both posed political threats to the Sadduceans (HP) athourity....that's why they were killed.