SyrianMariam
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Jesus was borne by Mary, but he was concieved by the Holy Spirit within Mary. Jesus is not genetically related to Joseph, is he genetically related to Mary?
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The vast majority of Christians say yes.Jesus was borne by Mary, but he was concieved by the Holy Spirit within Mary. Jesus is not genetically related to Joseph, is he genetically related to Mary?
Yes maam he is, Jesus is her son, and Jehovah is his Father.Jesus was borne by Mary, but he was concieved by the Holy Spirit within Mary. Jesus is not genetically related to Joseph, is he genetically related to Mary?
Hi SyrianMariamJesus was borne by Mary, but he was concieved by the Holy Spirit within Mary. Jesus is not genetically related to Joseph, is he genetically related to Mary?
The scriptures I gave are definitive proof.Hi SyrianMariam
While there is no definitive proof from the Scriptures of 'how' exactly Jesus' embryo became implanted in Mary's womb, I've long understood that, due to the nature of sin, as explained in the Scriptures, he likely doesn't have any of Mary's DNA either. I rather have understood that when the angel describes that the Holy Spirit would come over her to accomplish the task of her impregnation, that he implanted a fully formed zygote created by God the Father to be implanted in her womb.
And yes, that still makes Mary just as much his mother as any other baby by virtue of his being born through her birth canal. But for any definitive answer, we must wait until the day we see him face to face.
God bless,
Ted
Why? Have you not heard of surrogacy?That's a good question. I would assume so given that she gave birth to him.
So the Holy Spirit fertilised one of Mary's eggs?The vast majority of Christians say yes.
A tiny minority say no. God implanted Jesus in Mary's womb - a brand new creation.
Genesis 3:15
“I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.”
The ‘he’ is Jesus and he will be the seed of the woman. This clearly implies a genetic descent.
Gal 3:16
“Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many; but, referring to one, "And to your offspring," which is Christ.”
If Christ was a brand new creation he could not have descended from Abraham.
Rom 1:3
“...the gospel concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh”.
If Christ was a brand new creation he could not have descended from David according to the flesh.
And there are more such verses.
This makes the most sense to meHi SyrianMariam
While there is no definitive proof from the Scriptures of 'how' exactly Jesus' embryo became implanted in Mary's womb, I've long understood that, due to the nature of sin, as explained in the Scriptures, he likely doesn't have any of Mary's DNA either. I rather have understood that when the angel describes that the Holy Spirit would come over her to accomplish the task of her impregnation, that he implanted a fully formed zygote created by God the Father to be implanted in her womb.
And yes, that still makes Mary just as much his mother as any other baby by virtue of his being born through her birth canal. But for any definitive answer, we must wait until the day we see him face to face.
God bless,
Ted
This makes the most sense to me
How the Holy Spirit caused Mary to conceive is not given in scripture.So the Holy Spirit fertilised one of Mary's eggs?
Why does it matter if he's descended from some Hebrew? Christianity is for all. Jesus needs no ethnicity.How the Holy Spirit caused Mary to conceive is not given in scripture.
It could be by parthenogenesis.
It doesn't matter.
What does matter is that Jesus was fully man and fully God.
Of course I have. But what does that matter? If Mary gave birth to Jesus, I think it's safe to say that she is genetically related to him.Why? Have you not heard of surrogacy?
No lol. She could be a surrogate for the (female) Holy SpiritOf course I have. But what does that matter? If Mary gave birth to Jesus, I think it's safe to say that she is genetically related to him.
The female Holy Spirit?No lol. She could be a surrogate for the (female) Holy Spirit
It matters because there are OT prophecies and promises from God that the Messiah would be of the line of David. If Jesus isn't actually Jewish, if he doesn't have Mary's DNA, then those prophecies and promises are false, and it would be deceptive of God to make it appear to be the case when it actually wasn't.Why does it matter if he's descended from some Hebrew? Christianity is for all. Jesus needs no ethnicity.
Only on His mother’s side. ?Jesus was borne by Mary, but he was concieved by the Holy Spirit within Mary. Jesus is not genetically related to Joseph, is he genetically related to Mary?
That's a good question. I would assume so given that she gave birth to him.
And I vote yes , Jesus is genetically related to Mary His mother .The vast majority of Christians say yes.
A tiny minority say no. God implanted Jesus in Mary's womb - a brand new creation.
A better question for pondering the unknowable …
Are ADAM and JESUS Half-brothers?
(same Father, different mothers)
If GOD THE SON created ADAM (see John 1), then is Jesus his own ‘grandpa’ (through Mary)?