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  1. M

    The "Debate" that's not a Debate

    By your own statement, your not here to offer any evidence (scriptural or contextual). Your just here to make accusations? Well I am sure that will be helpful to the thread.
  2. M

    The "Debate" that's not a Debate

    To date, it is not a neutral issue as you seem to suggest. I have offered contextual evidence for my view of the word "all." Have you, or anyone else offered contextual evidence for your view of the word "all?" Can you show from that the context is demanding the understanding of the word...
  3. M

    The "Debate" that's not a Debate

    I will address the 3 out of context passages quoted. Two of the three passages are based upon the single word "all." Most people who quote such passages as Narwhalist did assume that the only possible meaning of the word "all" in each passage must be interpreted as "all men everywhere at all...
  4. M

    The "Debate" that's not a Debate

    Sorry, I missed this post. Yes, what you say above is a proper representation of what is taught in Calvinism, the 1689, the Westminster, and also believed by me. I might be a little hard to read, but many of the terms I am using are bible terms. It is very important to distinguish between the...
  5. M

    The "Debate" that's not a Debate

    Re: What must I do to be saved...? Good observation. I am glad you are asking some questions of the text and its grammar. At least that lifts the posts beyond the shallow name calling, claim making level to at least looking at the text. I am not sure what you are referring to as airew...
  6. M

    The "Debate" that's not a Debate

    Re: What must I do to be saved...? Yes, your post was a straw man. When you wrote in your previous post...... You were implying that Calvinists do not believe that faith is necessary for justification. You were implying that Calvinist believe one must do nothing to be saved, not even...
  7. M

    The "Debate" that's not a Debate

    Re: What must I do to be saved...? Eventide, first, it would be much better not to throw around the term "false teaching." All that does is crank up the emotional rhetoric. I could care less if you think Calvinists are heretics. We have been called worse before this. I have seen way too...
  8. M

    The Rapture is wrong !

    Elvispelvis, why don't you start out by telling us what you really think about the rapture? Please don't hold back so much.
  9. M

    The "Debate" that's not a Debate

    While I am to a degree Reformed. I attend and am a member of a Reformed Baptist Church and would affirm nearly the entire 1689, I am not inclined to defend the OP. While I know the writer of the OP is a brother in the Lord, it seemed more like rambling than a coherent defense of what...
  10. M

    Freewill religion ! - Part 2

    Re: Does man act freely and responsibly ? Very interesting. You suggest that the passive voice relates to some human pers/on who led the nations to revolt. SavedbyGrace57 suggests that it was God. The grammar and syntax is not decisive. I say that for this reason... * There is no need...
  11. M

    --Clearing The AIR!--

    There is a huge difference between a covenant and a commandment. The New Covenant is not like the Old Covenant. When Jeremiah penned is words in Jeremiah 31:31-34 he made this abundantly clear. 31 Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel...
  12. M

    The Meaning Of Justified

    I hesitated to respond because I know the game. If I demonstrate one passage to be isogetical, then we jump to other contexts. Oh well, here we go. I would not jump to conclusions concerning Luke 19 quite so fast. To insert conclusions of a person loosing their salvation or knowledge is...
  13. M

    The Meaning Of Justified

    Well, there are the "flash in the pan," sorts of people who come into our Church, look good for a few months, learn some of the lingo, and then pass right on out of the Church. Some of these people drift from Church to Church with some very different kinds of theology. None of them would deny...
  14. M

    The Meaning Of Justified

    How easily we can talk past each other. I observe that there is a very different starting point for the two of us. You use the phrase "rejecting Christ outright" to define apostasy. Being Reformed, I would probably define apostasy as "leaving the gospel" but not necessarily Christ. If a...
  15. M

    The Meaning Of Justified

    dadof10, the text of James 2 does not make any propositions on the issue of apostasy. Any exegesis of James 2 is not going to produce any definitive statement on apostasy. The only thing we can then discuss is anecdotal stories of some guy that apostatized or was never saved in the first...
  16. M

    The Meaning Of Justified

    Well, lets fill it out a wee bit more (Yes, I am a Scottish wannabee). James is talking about our claim to have faith. That claim is just because it can be shown by works. So in James, the term justify is what works does to the claim of having faith. James is talking about the nature of...
  17. M

    The Meaning Of Justified

    Yes, Abraham had faith. Yes, Abraham demonstrated his faith by his works. No, neither Abraham nor Rahab ever apostatized.
  18. M

    The Meaning Of Justified

    I think I see that we still do have a substantial difference. Your proposition is that you see the words faith, works, and justify in the context and therefore we can assume that it is teaching that faith and works justify. I think Romans 4:4-5 is quite clear that works is not a part of...
  19. M

    The Meaning Of Justified

    OK, maybe we should back up (as you are doing). Concerning the definition of the greek term "justify" (verb and noun forms).... It seems to me to be a slight deviation when you say "shown to be righteous." Also, I do not think that fits the meaning of the statement in James 2:24. The term...
  20. M

    The Meaning Of Justified

    James 2 has no comparison between the person who apostatized and the person who has true faith. It is a contrast between the person who has a dead faith (one that does not save) and a person with true faith. The person with the dead faith cannot apostatize because he does not have true saving...
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