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abomination of desolation

Just where is the passage that tells us to search for an antichrist?

There isnt.
Scripture presents that Christ second coming cannot be presented until he is revealed, which nullify's anyones understanding that Christ can return at any moment, as first the man of lawlessness must be revealed.
What it doesnt nullify is that Christ's coming is as a thief, not for the righteous through Christ, but for the wicked, as they would b of unbeleif and in deception not knowing the things of light but of darkness.
However he is a sign an for the saints, a terrible one, as they will be waged war agants in his times and overcome, but we are t fear not, for victory is already claimed through Christ, that doesnt mean it wont be a terrible time to live in.
 
There isnt.
Scripture presents that Christ second coming cannot be presented until he is revealed, which nullify's anyones understanding that Christ can return at any moment, as first the man of lawlessness must be revealed.
What it doesnt nullify is that Christ's coming is as a thief, not for the righteous through Christ, but for the wicked, as they would b of unbeleif and in deception not knowing the things of light but of darkness.
However he is a sign an for the saints, a terrible one, as they will be waged war agants in his times and overcome, but we are t fear not, for victory is already claimed through Christ, that doesnt mean it wont be a terrible time to live in.



Just your thought on: 'Scripture presents that Christ second coming cannot be presented until he is revealed,..' Is this not an conditional prophecy in the fact that God forces no one to do His Rev. 14:6-10 Requirement? Deceive the very ellect if it were possible? I wonder!

It seems that Eze. 9 finds the whole group totaly slaughtered by God, except the very few clearly 'singled out'? And if God has it as todays Truth, it seems that the 39 years from His Matt. 25 MIDNIGHT CRY to the 70AD slaughter of the city had already found the Matt. 23:38 House of God as DESOLATE. 1 Peter 4:17 had already been done while Christ was here. Matt. 25:10

My thinking on this is that Laodicea of Rev. 3:16 has gone the exact SPEWED OUT way as of old Israel & are found in verse 9 as 'THE SYNAGOGUE OF sATAN'
Real Killers! & that Jerusalem's land is just where satan's last Deception will be carried out. Most of todays ones are already set up for this as I see it and are looking at 70 AD's time period in 'being decieved'!

--Elijah
 
Just your thought on: 'Scripture presents that Christ second coming cannot be presented until he is revealed,..' Is this not an conditional prophecy in the fact that God forces no one to do His Rev. 14:6-10 Requirement? Deceive the very ellect if it were possible? I wonder!

It seems that Eze. 9 finds the whole group totaly slaughtered by God, except the very few clearly 'singled out'? And if God has it as todays Truth, it seems that the 39 years from His Matt. 25 MIDNIGHT CRY to the 70AD slaughter of the city had already found the Matt. 23:38 House of God as DESOLATE. 1 Peter 4:17 had already been done while Christ was here. Matt. 25:10

My thinking on this is that Laodicea of Rev. 3:16 has gone the exact SPEWED OUT way as of old Israel & are found in verse 9 as 'THE SYNAGOGUE OF sATAN'
Real Killers! & that Jerusalem's land is just where satan's last Deception will be carried out. Most of todays ones are already set up for this as I see it and are looking at 70 AD's time period in 'being decieved'!

--Elijah

2nd Thessalonians 2 is pretty clear on the conditioning of the prophecy.
Im not sure is the blue text you presented is a link to a different thread so im unsure what your asking Elijah
 
2nd Thessalonians 2 is pretty clear on the conditioning of the prophecy.
Im not sure is the blue text you presented is a link to a different thread so im unsure what your asking Elijah

Hey, that is what WarFrog posted!:study
 
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Explanation of above scripture: This is speaking of the prophecy in the Old testament book of Daniel regarding the antichrist (abomination of desolation) standing in Jerusalem in Temple of God claiming to be the True Christ. In the New testament book of 2nd Thessalonians we see a second Scriptural witness to the prophecy. We will look at those two Scriptures below, and then as we proceed on to the next verses in Matthew we will see what Jesus says for us to do when that transpires (satan as the antichrist on the throne of God claiming to God in the flesh - Jesus Christ).

OLD TESTAMENT, Book of Daniel (written in 426 B.C.):

Dan 9:26-27 (satan as the antichrist (the prince that shall come) is foretold of 426 B.C.)
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (KJV)

Dan 11:31
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. (KJV)

Dan 12:8-13 (Prophet Daniel speaking with an Angel of the Lord about the antichrist)
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days. (KJV)

NEW TESTAMENT, 2nd Thessalonians (written in A.D. 53):

II Th 2:1-5 (antichrist ('man of sin' & 'son of perdition') comes 1st. Foretold of here in A.D.53)
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? (KJV)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes

Explanation of above scripture: Jesus says when the false christ comes into power all those in Judea should flee because God is going to wipe it clean much as He did to Sodom and Gomorrah. We know that satan has about five months on this earth to bring enthrone himself and deceive the world, the two above references in verses 17 & 18 mean the time is too short to be idle about the flight. Jesus is basically saying: Get out quick, while you still can, when you see these things come to pass.

The "abomination" is when Satan stands in Jerusalem, and proclaims that he is God, and the world believes it. The "desolation" is an incorrect translation into the English, which should read "desolator", and Satan is the desolator that will make the claim that he is God, the true Christ. "Desolation" is a condition, in the Hebrew manuscripts it is written, "On the wings of the desolator," this is not a condition, but a entity, a person. It is through this individual, Satan that the abomination shall come from. It is the desolator [Satan] that shall cause all but the sealed of God, to become desolate, or deceived. ...

Hi, Elijah here:
You put a lot of time into this:thumbsup, so it is a shame to just let it die. Will we see things differently on this somewhat perhaps? Most likely, but let me just ask a few questions for our thought stimulation.

The midst of the week that Dan. saw was surely the crufixation week or seven years that did away with Moses law of Sanctuary ordinances. Christ was baptised with the Fathers blessing by apostate John the Baptist (:yes outside with even converts!) 27AD there/bouts. In 34AD Saul (Paul) came on the scene, 7 yrs. making a week later. (day year prophecy of Numbers 14:34 + Eze. 4:6)

70 AD's destruction of Jerusalem came 39 years forward!
OK: Now for the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION! Christ Prophesied in Isa. 5:3 for His Own Virgin Vineyard to make this CHOICE betwixt Himself or His Virgine vineyard in doctrine only, but WITHOUT HIM AS THEIR GOD! And their choice was the DESOLATE OF CHRIST VINEYARD! See Matt. 23:38!

[[DESOLATE!]] Now for the question? Who took over Christ ex/house? They became immediate killers of Christ and all of His diciples except John. Compare Laodicea of Rev. 3:9.

So?? This is the way that 'i' find it. Even read Matt. 10:5-6 & then verses 14-15.
And Daniel?? He has the message 'hung together' & it needs seperating from the time/frame of 70 AD of Israels rejection of Christ.. 'WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR' they cried out, & were DESOLATE long before their time of 70 AD's slaughter.

And the Eccl. 1:9-10 & Eccl. 3:15 repeat of this we have both Christ & Paul recorded saying that this time around it will be cut short in RIGHTOUSNESS!
 
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Why do you slander John the Baptist as an 'apostate'?

Hi! Elijah here:
Good question if one does not:crying read my postings!;) I am an EX/SDA... [EX/EX/EX!] OK??

So I see Laodicea as The Virgin Truth of the EX/Spewed /OUT/SDA. Nothing wrong with Christ's Virgin Doctrines! (Matt. 23:1-2 + Rev. 3:15-17)

And I see Old Israel as Eccl. 1:9-10 + Eccl. 3:15 Documents. Same History! (Rev. 2:5 Virgin Candlestick Removed!)

Now for John the Baptist. He SEPERATED himself from apostate Israel. (Rev. 18:4) He even had converts OUTSIDE. And he even had the blessing from God when he baptised Christ [that spilled over] from (Matt. 3:17)... 'And lo a Voice from heaven, saying, This is My beloved Son, [in whom I am well pleased.]' (it was not the apostate ex/fold where God sent His Son to be baptised!:thumbsup)

So this is what I meant about apostate John. (my type of satire!) Old Israel stayed put in apostasy while John was clearly already IN Christ's New (extended) Church!

Even read Matt. 10:5-6 for Matt. 25's answer for this Parable of Christ! [MIDNIGHT CRY] was Israel last oppurtunity as a 'FOLD' to repent.
satan immediately took over as their leader of the DESOLATE HOUSE as seen in Matt. 23:38. See Laodicea in Rev. 3:9 with their leader!

(70 AD was the Loud cry of slaughter which Matt. 24 has Luke giving details of.)
 
(satan as the antichrist on the throne of God claiming to God in the flesh - Jesus Christ
Satan and the antichrist are two different entities. It's true the bible does say whosoever worships the Beast worships the Devil, but the Devil gives his power to the bottomless pit Beast. The "false prophet" is one of the released Euphrates river angels. This "false prophet" (the 11 horn/the 12 Roman Emperor) is the horn that blasphemes, and instututes the worship of "Flavian" (the 8th horn/ the 9th Roman Emperor.) His name was adopted by Josephus, Constantinople and his mother. This was the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy about the rest of the angels having their lives posponed for a moment, and their dominion taken away.
It's Daniel 11's greek lil horn that is Revelation's 2nd beast's 2nd lil horn. It is he that attacks Jerusalem and the "city of the Saints" after the 1,000 yr heavenly reign (all the righteous Jews in the Heavenly Temple as "prophet, priest, and kings"). He is thrown into the Lake of Fire where the Beast and the False prophet are, the beginning of the 2nd Resurrection (Dan 12, the invitation of the Gentiles to the wedding supper, the "Great White Throne Judgement"). The 3rd Resurrection is the "wheat and tares" harvest of the physical earth into either the New Jerusalem (the barn) or into the Lake of Fire. There's no "throne" judgement in the 3rd Resurrection!




Dan 11:31
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. (KJV)
This greek lil horn ended the Zadok/Aaron priestly line, the beginning of the Maccabeans ruling, and non sons of Aaron as high priests!
Antiochus III the great conguered more territory than any other greek king other than Alexander the Great. He was even said to be the reincarnated Alexander. The Jews became "hellenize'/secular because of him, the reason for the divisions in Christ's time, and the "outer court" became a gym. This is the reason John is told not to measure the heavenly temple's courtyard, and that the heathen would trod it under foot 42mths.




Dan 12:8-13 (Prophet Daniel speaking with an Angel of the Lord about the antichrist)
8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days. (KJV)[/FONT]
It's approximately 1,290 days to the "crusades" from the time of Antiochus III. He, being one of the released Euphrates river angel, defiles the earthly temple's courtyard as well as the heavenly temple's courtyard, the attack after the 1,000 yr reign, as did the Beast and the False prophet the 1,000yrs before. The heavenly sanctuary is cleansed by that being the final heavenly war.



NEW TESTAMENT, 2nd Thessalonians (written in A.D. 53):

II Th 2:1-5 (antichrist ('man of sin' & 'son of perdition') comes 1st. Foretold of here in A.D.53)
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? (KJV)


16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes


Explanation of above scripture: Jesus says when the false christ comes into power all those in Judea should flee because God is going to wipe it clean much as He did to Sodom and Gomorrah. We know that satan has about five months on this earth to bring enthrone himself and deceive the world, the two above references in verses 17 & 18 mean the time is too short to be idle about the flight. Jesus is basically saying: Get out quick, while you still can, when you see these things come to pass.
The "abomination" was the Roman Emperor Flavian claiming (historically documented) to be the "messiah" thru pagan seers and prophecy. It is Flavian who destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in 70ad, the cause for Christ's message to flee the city.
The book of Revelation was written in 68-69ad, the "Year of the Four Emperors." the yr of Rome's 1st civil war, fulfilling the prophecy of wars and rumours of wars as the beginning of the "birth pains."



The "abomination" is when Satan stands in Jerusalem, and proclaims that he is God, and the world believes it. The "desolation" is an incorrect translation into the English, which should read "desolator", and Satan is the desolator that will make the claim that he is God, the true Christ. "Desolation" is a condition, in the Hebrew manuscripts it is written, "On the wings of the desolator," this is not a condition, but a entity, a person. It is through this individual, Satan that the abomination shall come from. It is the desolator [Satan] that shall cause all but the sealed of God, to become desolate, or deceived. ...
Satan is not the antichrist, they're two different entities!
 
:lol
The Obamanation of desolation seems to be the secret desire of many fundamentalists.:bigfrown
my pastor calls the aod that all the time when teaches on that. few get that the first time he says that.
 
Again, one more time. Christ came to HIS OWN VIRGIN FOLD! (VINEYARD) During this 1 'WEEK' (7 years, Num. 14:32, Eze, 4:6, then 27AD Baptism by John with the Fathers Ordination! -34AD's start of the Extended Church from this REMNANT in Acts) [[we have to find]] what made Christ's Virgin Fold DESOLATE!?? (not down the road any 39 years!)


This is WHERE ONE MUST LOCATE THIS ETERNAL ABOMINATION!! Cut off, Matt. 23:38, Closed Door of their Probation, Matt. 25:10, a DESOLATE HOUSE! Josh. 7:12's last part of the verse! With a NEW LEADER, named satan! (Rev. 3:9)


They became a KILLING MACHINE! WE HAVE [[NO KING BUT CAESAR]] was their CRY!!!
And?? The Execution of Christ first, and then any others who FOLLOWED HIM OUT!! Matt. 25's [[[MIDNIGHT CRY!!!]]]


It has NOTHING TO DO with 39 years later!!! (their SLAUGHTER):screwloose
You'ins need to dump the Jer. 17:5 ones stuff who have hardly any two agree on anything much except the false sun stuff, + the immortal junkyard of both saint + SINNER, & even maggots in hell!


--Elijah
 
It has NOTHING TO DO with 39 years later!!! (their SLAUGHTER)
Please cite the reference in Daniel referring to the AD as you have described it in this post.

And in the meantime, here - again - is what the AD is:

{15} "Therefore when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), {21} "For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will. Matthew 24:15, 21 (NASB)

{20} "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near. {43} "For the days will come upon you when your enemies will throw up a barricade against you, and surround you and hem you in on every side, {44} and they will level you to the ground and your children within you, and they will not leave in you one stone upon another, because you did not recognize the time of your visitation." {22} because these are days of vengeance, so that all things which are written will be fulfilled. {23} "Woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days; for there will be great distress upon the land and wrath to this people; {24} and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Luke 21:20, 19:43-44, 21:22-24 (NASB)

The pagan armies of Rome laying siege to Jerusalem is the "Abomination of Desolation", literally, "the hated thing which causes destruction."

It doesn't get any simpler than this.
 
The pagan armies of Rome laying siege to Jerusalem is the "Abomination of Desolation", literally, "the hated thing which causes destruction."

It doesn't get any simpler than this.



Its not a condition

The "abomination" is when Satan stands in Jerusalem, and proclaims that he is God, and the world believes it. The "desolation" is an incorrect translation into the English, which should read "desolator", and Satan is the desolator that will make the claim that he is God, the true Christ. "Desolation" is a condition, in the Hebrew manuscripts it is written, "On the wings of the desolator," this is not a condition, but a entity, a person. It is through this individual, Satan that the abomination shall come from. It is the desolator [Satan] that shall cause all but the sealed of God, to become desolate, or deceived.
 
Such a view completely ignores Luke's account of the Olivet Discourse and pulls other unrelated passages wildly out of context.
 
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Again, one more time. Christ came to HIS OWN VIRGIN FOLD! (VINEYARD) During this 1 'WEEK' (7 years, Num. 14:32, Eze, 4:6, then 27AD Baptism by John with the Fathers Ordination! -34AD's start of the Extended Church from this REMNANT in Acts) [[we have to find]] what made Christ's Virgin Fold DESOLATE!?? (not down the road any 39 years!)


This is WHERE ONE MUST LOCATE THIS ETERNAL ABOMINATION!! Cut off, Matt. 23:38, Closed Door of their Probation, Matt. 25:10, a DESOLATE HOUSE! Josh. 7:12's last part of the verse! With a NEW LEADER, named satan! (Rev. 3:9)


They became a KILLING MACHINE! WE HAVE [[NO KING BUT CAESAR]] was their CRY!!!
And?? The Execution of Christ first, and then any others who FOLLOWED HIM OUT!! Matt. 25's [[[MIDNIGHT CRY!!!]]]


It has NOTHING TO DO with 39 years later!!! (their SLAUGHTER):screwloose
You'ins need to dump the Jer. 17:5 ones stuff who have hardly any two agree on anything much except the false sun stuff, + the immortal junkyard of both saint + SINNER, & even maggots in hell!


--Elijah[/QUOTE]

Hi n2thelight, Elijah here:
You say.. [The pagan armies of Rome laying siege to Jerusalem is the "Abomination of Desolation", literally, "the hated thing which causes destruction."

It doesn't get any simpler than this.]


While I can see the truth 'of satan's rome just standing there in the Lord's House' with NO FIGHT as in Matt. 23:38 after Christ was rejected, & then executed, I see NO truth of it taking another 39 years future for satan's control! They CRIED.. [[WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR!]] And this was the Truth!

And the repeat (Eccl. 3:15) as I see it was in 1990 when the Seventh-day Adventist Rev. 3:14 ones held their World Session in Indiana.

This was the highest World Meeting of their General Conference where the then President Robert Folkenburg was supposed to represent Christ's Church when standing behind the pulpit, but instead there was an catholic priest there standing hand in hand with Christ?? Just standing there INVITED! NO WAY!:screwloose

And from that point on, even that Rev. 3:16 Virgin church became desolate of Christ as well!


--Elijah



 
The interpretation of scripture has become nothing but pure speculation, private interpretations that can't be proven in a court of law, pure assumptions! Wow!
 
So I guess there's no point in trying to understand any of it then. I mean, if it's all assumptions, then what's the point?
 
So I guess there's no point in trying to understand any of it then. I mean, if it's all assumptions, then what's the point?
You guessed wrong! 490 hebrew yrs do not equal 490 solar Gregorian calendar yrs, that's a fact.

Another fact, the 490 hebrew yrs is the exact amount of yrs of the Persia/Medes, Greek occupation of Israel which is what Daniel is about, the Persian/Greek occupation in Israel and their effect.

The "abomination of desolation" is evident in that from the time of the Greek lil horn to Christ's time, there was no prophet and the bible was sealed and not interpreted correctly, the reason for Christ teaching his followers how to interpret and read the scriptures. These are the facts.

Christ not only physicallly healed (openned) the eyes and the ears of the people but he also openned/healed them spiritually.
Isa 9:2 The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

The desolation, not the "Abomination"
Isa 29:10 For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
Isa 29:11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
Isa 29:12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: And he saith, I am not learned.
Isa 29:13 Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Isa 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
Isa 29:15 Woe unto them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the Lord, and their works are in the dark, and they say, Who seeth us? and who knoweth us?
Isa 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?
Isa 29:17 Is it not yet a little while, and Lebanon shall be turned into a fruitful field, and the fruitful field shall be esteemed as a forest?
Isa 29:18 And in that day shall the deaf hear the words of the book, and the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity, and out of darkness.
Isa 29:19 The meek also sall increase their joy in the Lord, and the poor among men shall rejoice in the Holy One of Israel.
Isa 29:20 For the terrible one is brought to nought, and the scorner is consumed, and all that watch for iniquity are cut off:
Isa 29:21 That make a man an offender for a word, and lay a snare for him that reproveth in the gate, and turn aside the just for a thing of nought.

Isa 29:24 They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.
The book is sealed, the prophets and seers are no more. The nation was without prophets and seers from Daniel to the new testament, until Christ, that great light shines in this great darkness! Christ taught his followers how to read and comprehend the scriptures, opening their eyes and ears spiritually, as well as physically This is why when they (the Pharisees) asked if they were blind also, the answer was because they "see" their sin remain. This is the unforgivable sin against the Holy Spirit, the mark of the beast, 666.

The bible and the truth has been tampered with, don't rely on unfactual assumptions that can't be proven in a court of law. They're of private interpretation. Get the facts.

Anything I say can be proven in a court of law! Don't be fooled by these false prophets and prophecies, modern day Pharisees and Sadducees with their false doctrines.
 
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So, let me see if I understand what you're saying. The seventy sevens have been completely fulfilled in the 490 years that the Persians and Greeks occupied Israel?

Can you expand on that a little bit please. What are the years exactly that you say encompass the 490 years? From when till when?
 
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