I believe that Paul would be a good example.If Jesus is not your example,,,,who is?
I stated what Jesus said about His followers.
Do you not agree with what Jesus taught?
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I believe that Paul would be a good example.If Jesus is not your example,,,,who is?
I stated what Jesus said about His followers.
Do you not agree with what Jesus taught?
Could you please tell me the post number of your reply?I did reply. You think that it is all about you. It is not about you, it is about Jesus Christ.
The foundation of my faith is Jesus Christ and his Gospel.
I like Paul, am a New Covenant Christian. I don't live by laws or rules. I am led and taught by the Holy Spirit.Could you please tell me the post number of your reply?
Do you not believe what the NT teaches?
I can tell by the scriptures that you listed that you don't have the slightest idea of what the Gospel is. You think that it is all about you and your Christian life. Christians are sinners saved by the goodness and the mercy of God. You are trying to be good enough to be saved. You will never be good enough to be saved.
Here is the Gospel that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God.
The Gospel is the good news that Jesus has ALREADY reconciled us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19. While you were dead in trespasses and sins Jesus had already reconciled you unto God, Romans 5:6-8. All that God requires of us is that we accept what has already been provided for us in Jesus Christ.
When you believe and trust in Christ alone, God will give you his Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit, NOT YOU that will produce good works and the Christian life, Paul said, "For we are HIS workmanship, created in Jesus Christ unto good works" Ephesians 2:10. It is all of God. You need to stop trying to be your own Holy Spirit.
I don't reject any New Covenant scriptures. Old Covenant scriptures are no longer relevant for New Testament Christians. Hebrews 8:13. The only New Covenant Christian was the apostle Paul. You are all over the Bible mixing Old Covenant scriptures with New Covenant scriptures, trying to make sense out of it all. Not all of the New Testament is New Covenant theology, much of the New Testament was written under the Old Covenant. If you want to know what New Covenant theology is, you will have to read Paul's epistles and allow them to determine what you believe. Example. Paul said, "The just shall live by faith" Romans 1:17. This means no more laws, rules or religion. Laws, rules and religion is not of the faith, Romans 6:14.Actually, I believe all of the Gospel.
You believe in those Scriptures that use the words "grace," and "salvation," and "faith," but you refuse to acknowledge the entire NT that explains what it means to be in The Faith by which God saves us - the very Scriptures which I quoted for you and which you reject.
- I believe all the Scriptures that say we are saved by the grace of God by faith in Lord Jesus.
- And I also believe all the Gospel Scriptures that explain to us what it means to believe in Lord Jesus by which God chooses to save us.
Therefore, you have made up your own "gospel" that you define for yourself, ignoring all the Scriptures that define the true Gospel by which God saves us.
We are to be Christlike in all we do and say. If Christ is not our example of living how God wants us to live out our salvation in and through Christ, then you are believing a different gospel being deceived by the lies of the gospel according to Satan who is the father of lies. Jesus taught us how to obey the moral parts of the law with Gods greatest commandment of love, Matthew 22:36-40.Christ may be your example, but not mine
I don't reject any New Covenant scriptures. Old Covenant scriptures are no longer relevant for New Testament Christians. Hebrews 8:13. The only New Covenant Christian was the apostle Paul. You are all over the Bible mixing Old Covenant scriptures with New Covenant scriptures, trying to make sense out of it all. Not all of the New Testament is New Covenant theology, much of the New Testament was written under the Old Covenant. If you want to know what New Covenant theology is, you will have to read Paul's epistles and allow them to determine what you believe. Example. Paul said, "The just shall live by faith" Romans 1:17. This means no more laws, rules or religion. Laws, rules and religion is not of the faith, Romans 6:14.
Why?I believe that Paul would be a good example.
It surely does not seem like it RP.The foundation of my faith is Jesus Christ and his Gospel.
You have an Old Covenant based theology. The Old Covenant has been abolished by Jesus Christ, Ephesians 2:15. Jesus nailed it to his cross, Colossians 2:14. Under the New Covenant God's people do not live by laws, rules or religion, instead they live by faith in Christ and his Gospel, Romans 1:17.It surely does not seem like it RP.
Because instead of teaching new Christians that we are to obey our Lord,
you teach that there is something legalistic about obeying Him.
Something wrong with obeying God.
Jesus said:
Luke 6:40
40“A pupil is not above his teacher; but everyone, after he has been fully trained, will be like his teacher.
Perhaps your teacher should be Jesus and not Paul?
Jesus said:
Luke 6:46-49
46“Why do you call Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?
47“Everyone who comes to Me and hears My words and acts on them, I will show you whom he is like:
48he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid a foundation on the rock; and when a flood occurred, the torrent burst against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built.
49“But the one who has heard and has not acted accordingly, is like a man who built a house on the ground without any foundation; and the torrent burst against it and immediately it collapsed, and the ruin of that house was great.”
Which man should we be like?
I agree that the Old Covenant has been abolished. It was regulated by rules and laws and this method did not work very well.You have an Old Covenant based theology. The Old Covenant has been abolished by Jesus Christ, Ephesians 2:15. Jesus nailed it to his cross, Colossians 2:14. Under the New Covenant God's people do not live by laws, rules or religion, instead they live by faith in Christ and his Gospel, Romans 1:17.
Under the New Covenant, "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness for those that believe" Romans 10:4.
Christians no longer need rules, laws or religion, instead they are led by the Holy Spirit, Hebrews 8:10-13. In the Gospel we have ALREADY been reconciled unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18-19. In the Gospel God ALREADY sees his people as perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10. It appears to me that you are trying to do in your flesh what God has ALREADY done in Jesus Christ.
There is nothing wrong with the law. Paul taught the law because there were many in Paul's congregation that needed to hear the law. But mature, born-again Christians do not need the law. It is the lawless and disobedient that need the law, 1 Timothy 1:9. Not those that are "In Christ".I agree that the Old Covenant has been abolished. It was regulated by rules and laws and this method did not work very well.
But why?
Because God tried to let the people of the time, the Israelites, try to obey the laws and rules on their own strength.
This was not possible, although, we must say that even back then persons were saved BY FAITH and the obedience came after -- In Abraham's example, I'd say the obedience came first, but we're not told how it happened that he obeyed God when God told him to leave Ur. We do know that Abraham obeyed God.
What is very different about the New Covenant is NOT that we are to disobey God, but that He has given us a method of obeying, a way of obeying. That way is through Jesus who said that it would be better for Him to leave so that the Holy Spirit could come.
John 16:7
Jesus called the Holy Spirit the Helper.
We need this help to obey God.
We need to love and be loved by Jesus to obey God.
This is our help and our strength.
Jesus said we can do nothing without Him and to abide in Him.
John 15:5
The difference in the New Covenant is that God has placed those rules and commandments IN OUR HEART, insstead of in our mind.
Jesus said:
John 15:10
If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love, just as I have kept my Father's commandments and abide in his love.
Even in the New Covenant, of which Jesus is the Testifier, we are told to keep God's commandments.
This is the MORAL LAW.
The moral law will NEVER be abolished.
What was abolished is the ceremonial and civil law.
It is no longer required and Jesus has fulfilled all those rules.
You make it sound as it it's not NECESSARY to obey the 10 commandments of God that are forever.
Romans 13:8-10
Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
The laws of God - the Commandments - are not abolished, but made possible to obey.
There are many that will agree with you but will reject the Gospel and justification by faith.I think that we must all be in agreement to the fact that the epistle to the Galatians, at least, teaches us that salvation is by our faith in Jesus Christ apart from obedience to the law.
That salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ apart from obedience to the law is the doctrine of justification by faith.There are many that will agree with you but will reject the Gospel and justification by faith.
Problem is that it is not really our faith that saves us. It is Jesus that is the justifier, Romans 3:26.
Jesus justifies us by doing for us that which we cannot do for ourselves.
To begin with, it is Jesus not our faith that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5. The justification becomes ours by faith in what he has done to justify us, which is the fulfilling of the law and the atonement for our sins.That salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ apart from obedience to the law is the doctrine of justification by faith.
How can a person both affirm and deny this doctrine?
We are justified by faith (Romans 5:1-2)...agree or disagree?To begin with, it is Jesus not our faith that justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5. The justification becomes ours by faith in what he has done to justify us, which is the fulfilling of the law and the atonement for our sins.
Salvation is by faith in Jesus.I think that we must all be in agreement to the fact that the epistle to the Galatians, at least, teaches us that salvation is by our faith in Jesus Christ apart from obedience to the law.