Baptism

[Corn Pop]

Faith is belief, its beliving in things not seen. Hope and trust.

Why are some people so obssesed with baptism like water saves people?.

Christ saves lives, not water. Abraham believed God, he believed God would deliever through Christ even he did not see it he believed God and thats faith and he was credited with righteousness.

The thief on the cross asked Jesus to remember him, he was down and had no one else to turn to for comfort and support but Christ, he decided to believe and put his hope and trust in Christs hands, and Christ credited him with righteousness for having that faith, he didnt get dunked in water or eat a slice of bread.

Water baptisim is good its a good thing, but its not needed to be saved and sometimes people freak out they not baptised in water and question there faith and if they saved. Our belief is not in a river of water, its in God alone.


Christ is the living water, he is the bread of life, faith in Christ is more important and more worthy than believing being dunked in some water saves lives.

 

[donadams]

The early Catholic Church fathers say baptism

A) "It does not suffice to believe. He who believes and is not yet baptized, but is only a Catechumen, has not yet fully acquired salvation." St. Thomas Aquinas

B) "Now, even the Catechumen believes in the Cross of the Lord Jesus, but unless he be baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, he cannot receive remission of his sins nor the gift of spiritual grace." St. Ambrose

C) "Without the Sacrament of Baptism, no one is ever justified. If anyone says that Baptism is optional, that is, not necessary for salvation: let him be anathema." Council of Trent

D)
“There are three ways in which sins are forgiven: in baptism, in prayer, and in the greater humility of penance; yet God does not forgive sins except to the baptized” (Sermons to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15 [A.D. 395]).
St. AUGUSTINE

E) “As many as are persuaded and believe that what we [Christians] teach and say is true, and undertake to be able to live accordingly . . . are brought by us where there is water, and are regenerated in the same manner in which we were ourselves regenerated. For, in the name of God, the Father and Lord of the universe, and of our Savior Jesus Christ, and of the Holy Spirit, they then receive the washing with water. For Christ also said, ‘Except you be born again, you shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven’ [John 3:3]” (First Apology 61 [A.D. 151]).
JUSTIN MARTYR

TERTULLIAN
“Happy is our sacrament of water, in that, by washing away the sins of our early blindness, we are set free and admitted into eternal life. . . . [But] a viper of the [Gnostic] Cainite heresy, lately conversant in this quarter, has carried away a great number with her most venomous doctrine, making it her first aim to destroy baptism—which is quite in accordance with nature, for vipers and.asps . . . themselves generally do live in arid and waterless places. But we, little fishes after the example of our [Great] Fish, Jesus Christ, are born in water, nor have we safety in any other way than by permanently abiding in water. So that most monstrous creature, who had no right to teach even sound doctrine, knew full well how to kill the little fishes—by taking them away from the water!” (Baptism 1 [A.D. 203]).

“Without baptism, salvation is attainable by none” (ibid., 12).

ORIGEN
“It is not possible to receive forgiveness of sins without baptism” (Exhortation to the Martyrs 30 [A.D. 235]).

CYRIL OF JERUSALEM
“If any man does not receive baptism, he does not have salvation.

St. AUGUSTINE
“There are three ways in which sins are forgiven: in baptism, in prayer, and in the greater humility of penance; yet God does not forgive sins except to the baptized” (Sermons to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15 [A.D. 395]).

 

[DJT_47]

For repentance and belief, and baptism is not taught or done in the Epistles, nor can you teach it also.


1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

You must read further into 1 cor to understand Paul's words in 1 cor1:17.

Read 1 Cor 3:6

6I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase

Paul was the preacher, Apollos, baptized, God added to the body of Christ

 

[DJT_47]

Instead of going with "sprinkled", how about using "applied ?

Applied is not baptism. You apply glue, deodorant, hair spray, paint, etc. Apply is not dipping, plunging, immersing.

 

[Hopeful 2]

How did the eunuch know about and desire baptism in acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

Philip obviously mentioned it, as he was probably present on the day of Pentecost.

Did not Philip preach the fundamentalist’s tradition? “Accept Christ, spiritual baptism, faith alone?

Probably not, as that version of fundamental Christianity was still unheard of then.
They were still adhering to Peter's version of conversion...repent, water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and reception of the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38)

If faith alone why does he need water baptism?

Faith alone is a myth.

There is no lack of apostles
Matt 28:19-20 I (Christ) and with you (the apostles) unto the end of the world
Acts 1:8 my witnesses unto the ends of the earth

I agree, there is no lack of apostles.

Requires successors
Act 1:15-26 apostolic succession

I would rather say "provided as needed".

 

[Hopeful 2]

Applied is not baptism. You apply glue, deodorant, hair spray, paint, etc. Apply is not dipping, plunging, immersing.

You also apply the blood of the Lamb for the sanctification of ex-sinners.
"Sprinkled" is not baptism.
Baptism is "immersion"..."fully whelmed".

 

[gordon777]

As Cornelius and his household were the only occurrence of that in the bible, why neglect all the other occurrence that correct your mistake ?

Everybidy receives the Spirit by the hearing of faith, that is why we see Paul again receiving the Spirit before water baptism.



Acts 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

As "faith cometh by hearing", all men will hear from someone else how to repent and be baptized for the remission of sins so they too can be receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Paul heard from Jesus Christ, not from man, and Paul also affirms this for us.




Acts 9:11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,
12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

Galatians 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Somehow or another someone has convinced you that "belief" equates to "baptism".
That is erroneous.

Someone convinced you that water baptism equates to belief, when we are witnessed that it is the revelation of Jesus Christ is both belief and baptism. ( that is how they received the Holy Spirit, by revelation of Christ, and not by the hearing of anyone else or the eater baptism anyone else gives to someone.

Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Ephesians 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

I don't need to, as Peter did it for us in 1 Peter 3:21.

Belief in the resurrection of Jesus Christ gives a good conscience, gives the Spirit, ( saving us) which is seen in Acts 10.

All received the gift of the Holy Ghost by the hearing of faith, not by hearing they had to be baptized with water.



Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

1 Peter 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

What was the very next thing Peter did ?
He asked if anyone could deny them water baptism .

Calling on the name of the Lord is done when a man is baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.

Calling on the name of the Lord is told fully in Romans 10, and we know this is ONLY, BY REVELATION OF THE LORD JESUS CHIST,AS WAS DONE WITH PAUL, if we believe in our heart that God rose Christ from the dead we shall be saved, this is us believing and not being ashamed, this is the Lord being rich towards all who call upon Him.


Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

Thank God for that.

There is still an uncorrupted church.
God will show men where it is at if they want it.

You are being taught by me that there is one that needs answers for everything. ( corrupted.)

You are unsuccessfully using OT events to negate NT commands.
And who does the baptism is not relevant.
As unbeliever could do it.

No unbeliever did baptism in the scripture, plus that is speaking against how baptism and faith works, it is only by revelation of Jesus Christ. ( belief is required in all)

It is still right for us today.
Only you want to change things.
Isn't that like the corrupt churches you have referred to ?
Change God's word for convenience ?

More "corrupt" exhortations that counter biblical instructions?
Find "baptism of belief" in the bible.

Are you talking to me or to others on the forum, give account on day of every word you have spoken.

 

[gordon777]

You must serve a weak God, one I haven't ever heard of.

Yet some keep trying.

Yes God cant lie, the falling away, time of no faith is on all the world, only the antichrist can try to deny these things.

 

[gordon777]

How did the eunuch know about and desire baptism in acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

Did not Philip preach the fundamentalist’s tradition? “Accept Christ, spiritual baptism, faith alone?

If faith alone why does he need water baptism?

There is no lack of apostles
Matt 28:19-20 I (Christ) and with you (the apostles) unto the end of the world
Acts 1:8 my witnesses unto the ends of the earth

Requires successors
Act 1:15-26 apostolic succession

Thanks

Philip as Peter, was good for the gospel of circumcision, but Paul mighty to the uncircumcision.

So if one way thinks water baptism is good, the other thinks baptism of the Spirit is mighty.


Do we need water baptism, no because Paul was not sent to baptise to make the cross of Christ of no effect.

Christ is with us unto the end of the world, but the false apostles are here in many numbers, so it is not possible to baptise with water and avoid the baptism by the deceiver.



Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.



Any Apostles succession, is avoiding the wolves who entered the whole flock, it is passed on as the Spirit was witnessed, to be not known, but still there.



John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

 

[gordon777]

If salvation is by “faith alone” then faith would be the greatest!
1 cor 13:13 charity is the greatest!

Even all faith much less “faith alone” without charity avails nothing!
1 cor 13:2

Faith alone saves us, not the faith of removing mountains, but the faith of belief that Christ is risen from the dead.

That is why charity believes all things.

Do you need illumination from me on everything ?

That is also why FAITH WORKS BY LOVE.


John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Corinthians 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Galatians 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.



Speaking of faith working by love, that is the belief in the love of Christ to lay HIs life down for us, to justify those who believe in Jesus, which is the law of faith, and it is concluded the man is justified without other deeds, as belief in love is the fulfilling of the law ( of Christ.) as love works no ill to your neighbour. ( which is faith working through love.)




Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

 

[gordon777]

Faith alone is a myth.

Faith alone saves us, not the faith of removing mountains, but the faith of belief that Christ is risen from the dead.

That is why charity believes all things.

Do you need illumination from me on everything ?

That is also why FAITH WORKS BY LOVE.


John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Corinthians 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Galatians 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.



Speaking of faith working by love, that is the belief in the love of Christ to lay HIs life down for us, to justify those who believe in Jesus, which is the law of faith, and it is concluded the man is justified without other deeds, as belief in love is the fulfilling of the law ( of Christ.) as love works no ill to your neighbour. ( which is faith working through love.)




Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

 

[gordon777]

I answered the same answer two times, as you guys look like you are clones.

 

[donadams]

Philip obviously mentioned it, as he was probably present on the day of Pentecost.

Probably not, as that version of fundamental Christianity was still unheard of then.
They were still adhering to Peter's version of conversion...repent, water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and reception of the gift of the Holy Ghost. (Acts 2:38)

Faith alone is a myth.

I agree, there is no lack of apostles.

I would rather say "provided as needed".

Thanks

 

[donadams]

No water baptism no salvation! Mk 16:16

 

[Hopeful 2]

Everybidy receives the Spirit by the hearing of faith, that is why we see Paul again receiving the Spirit before water baptism.

Got any verses for that?
Paul's reception of the gift of the Holy Ghost is not written of.

Acts 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

I wonder why there was no mention of him receiving the Holy Spirit too ?
No speaking in tongues.
No prophesying.

Paul heard from Jesus Christ, not from man, and Paul also affirms this for us.

No arguement there.

Belief in the resurrection of Jesus Christ gives a good conscience, gives the Spirit, ( saving us) which is seen in Acts 10.

Your chapter doesn't say that.
How can anybody still with sin in/on them have a good conscience ?

All received the gift of the Holy Ghost by the hearing of faith,

Undoubtedly they believed, but the gift of the Hoy Ghost before baptism was done to impress on the visiting Jews that God had accepted the Gentiles as well as the Jews.

not by hearing they had to be baptized with water.

Agreed.
But they were immediately water baptized.

Calling on the name of the Lord is told fully in Romans 10, and we know this is ONLY, BY REVELATION OF THE LORD JESUS CHIST,AS WAS DONE WITH PAUL, if we believe in our heart that God rose Christ from the dead we shall be saved, this is us believing and not being ashamed, this is the Lord being rich towards all who call upon Him.

If we believe that first bit of information, we will do the rest of the things we hear and heed.
True believers repent of sin and get water baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of past sins.
True believers will remain faithfully obedient till their last day.

You are being taught by me that there is one that needs answers for everything. ( corrupted.)

One church ?
How about thousands of false "churches" ?

No unbeliever did baptism in the scripture, plus that is speaking against how baptism and faith works, it is only by revelation of Jesus Christ. ( belief is required in all)

Not every event got written about.
There are hundreds, if not thousands, of unbelievers baptizing folks today.
Every false church is baptizing people.

Everybidy receives the Spirit by the hearing of faith, that is why we see Paul again receiving the Spirit before water baptism.

Actually, only Cornelius' household was written of having experienced that.

Someone convinced you that water baptism equates to belief,

Not really.
I know that unbelievers won't get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their past sins.
Believers, however, will get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of their past sins and then receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Just as Peter exhorted in Acts 2:38.

Belief in the resurrection of Jesus Christ gives a good conscience, gives the Spirit, ( saving us) which is seen in Acts 10.

A one time event.

All received the gift of the Holy Ghost by the hearing of faith, not by hearing they had to be baptized with water.

That one time event proved to the accompanying Jews with Peter that God had received the Gentiles as well as the Jews.

Calling on the name of the Lord is told fully in Romans 10, and we know this is ONLY, BY REVELATION OF THE LORD JESUS CHIST,AS WAS DONE WITH PAUL, if we believe in our heart that God rose Christ from the dead we shall be saved, this is us believing and not being ashamed, this is the Lord being rich towards all who call upon Him.

Where in Acts 10 did Cornelius or any other Gentile "call upon the name of the Lord" ?

Are you talking to me or to others on the forum, give account on day of every word you have spoken.

I am responding to you.

 

[Hopeful 2]

Yes God cant lie, the falling away, time of no faith is on all the world, only the antichrist can try to deny these things.

"No" faith ?
I am kind of hoping that there will be believers and converts right up to the last day.

 

[Hopeful 2]

Faith alone saves us, not the faith of removing mountains, but the faith of belief that Christ is risen from the dead.

That is why charity believes all things.

Do you need illumination from me on everything ?

That is also why FAITH WORKS BY LOVE.


John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Corinthians 13:7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

Galatians 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.



Speaking of faith working by love, that is the belief in the love of Christ to lay HIs life down for us, to justify those who believe in Jesus, which is the law of faith, and it is concluded the man is justified without other deeds, as belief in love is the fulfilling of the law ( of Christ.) as love works no ill to your neighbour. ( which is faith working through love.)




Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

The only time "faith alone" is written of in the bible, it is spoken against.

 

[donadams]

The only time "faith alone" is written of in the bible, it is spoken against.

The times (more than one) Phil 1:29 for example.

 

[donadams]

Effects of faith & baptism!

Ez 36:25-27 washed in baptism, with a new heart and the Spirit
Jn 3:5 born again in baptism
Mk 16:16 faith & baptist
Acts 2:38 repentance & baptism
Acts 8:36-38 faith & baptism
Acts 22:16 baptism washes away sin
Rom 6:3 died with Christ
Col 2:12 risen with Christ
1 cor 12:13 baptized into the church
Gal 3:27 by baptism put on Christ
2 Tim 1:10 eph 2:1 and 5 brought to life
2 cor 5:17 new creation
Eph 1:13 eph 4:30 sealed by the Holy Spirit
Eph 4:5 one faith, one baptism
Eph 5:26 faith and baptism
Titus 3:5 baptismal regeneration
1 pet 1:2 washed in Christ’s blood
1 pet 2:9 the kingdom of light
1 pet 3:20-21 baptism saves us!

“Faith alone” accomplishes nothing!
1 cor 13:2 even all faith (alone) without charity avails NOTHING!!!

Faith and baptism!

Scripture says none of the things about “Faith alone”!

Only James 2:24 a man is justified by works and not by “faith alone”

2 Peter 1:11
For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

The Christian sacrament of baptism is the Initiation into the new covenant and must be ministered to you by the apostles!







“Faith alone” Questions

where does ez 36: 25:27 Say “faith alone”?

where does scripture says we have died with Christ by “faith alone”?

Where does it say we are sealed by faith alone?

Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

where does scripture say we are members of Christ and his church by “faith alone”?

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

where does scripture says we put on Christ by “faith alone”?

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Where does scripture say our sins are washed away by “faith alone”?

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

where does scripture say we are saved or justified by “faith alone”?

1 pet 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us!

The only reference in scripture to “faith alone” is James 2:24 NOT BY “FAITH ALONE”?

2 pet 1: 11 For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

How can you enter by your own if it must be ministered to you? Baptism is done unto you, “not do it yourself by faith alone”

Ministered by the apostolic church!

2 Corinthians 8:19
And not that only, but who was also chosen of the churches to travel with us with this grace, which is administered by us to the glory of the same Lord, and declaration of your ready mind:

Jn 3:5 born again by faith alone?

Where is “Accept Christ as your personal lord & savior” is found in scripture?

They did not go preaching this line but went immediately to the river and baptized Jn 3:22

Acts 22:16
And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Eph 4:5 one baptism

Why don’t it say one teeny tiny little act of “faith alone”???

When we first believed we are saved?

Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

How can salvation be nearer than when we first believed if you’re saved by believing?

1 pet 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

Matt 24:13 endures to the end Shall be saved.

How can salvation happen when we first believed if it’s the end?

If salvation is by “faith alone” then faith would be the greatest!
1 cor 13:13 charity is the greatest!

Even all faith much less “faith alone” without charity avails nothing!
1 cor 13:2

The early Catholic Church fathers say faith and baptism!

 

[Hopeful 2]

The times (more than one) Phil 1:29 for example.

I'm not picking up what you are putting down .

 

[Hopeful 2]

Effects of faith & baptism!
Ez 36:25-27 washed in baptism, with a new heart and the Spirit
Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Eph 4:5 one baptism
Why don’t it say one teeny tiny little act of “faith alone”???
When we first believed we are saved?
Romans 13:11
And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
How can salvation be nearer than when we first believed if you’re saved by believing?
1 pet 1:9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
Matt 24:13 endures to the end Shall be saved.
How can salvation happen when we first believed if it’s the end?
If salvation is by “faith alone” then faith would be the greatest!
1 cor 13:13 charity is the greatest!
Even all faith much less “faith alone” without charity avails nothing!
1 cor 13:2

The early Catholic Church fathers say faith and baptism!

Yes, even the false churches sometimes get things right.