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Are there any sick people in your town ? If anyone is sick it must be your lack of faith,not theirs, after all the diciples raised the dead and how could the dead respond in faith ?
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Hitch
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Since you chimed in and appear to be follow the WOF why not explain why Peter grew old and blind, since if what is claimed it true ,it is NEVER God's will that a believier suffer sickness, and I include blindness in that definition.
Will you tell us all that Peter lacked faith ?
Or follow the script and dance around the question like a headless chicken ?
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zone
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FALSE.
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zone
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oh my.
so when sin and death (and sickness and disease entered in by Adam), is God just wringing His hands now hoping enough charismatics come to His rescue and undo the results of the fall?
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THE BREACH BETWEEN MAN AND GOD (due to SIN) WAS HEALED (FOR THOSE IN CHRIST) BY THE BLOODY SACRIFICE OF THE LAMB OF GOD (in our place).
this FALSE teaching that physical healing is in the Atonement is getting wearying, and it is destructive.
its been DEBUNKED.
ppl who continue in this may end up hardened....never able to recover themselves from the snare of the devil.
they are also in danger of Rev 22.
to those not in this mess of theological confusion: RUN AWAY!
whitney
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Did you miss the scriptures that say - because of YOUR faith, you are healed? Lazarus was saved btw.
There isn't anything anyone can do, you have to believe the Bible yourself.
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Hitch
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And that has what to do with the question ? Nothing
LOL another dodge as I PROPHECIED lol
Are there any sick people in your town ? If anyone is sick it must be your lack of faith,not theirs, after all the diciples raised the dead and how could the dead respond in faith ?
Please answer , especially the bold above.
If your claims are true why dont you raise the dead?
whitney
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I did not say that as believers we will never suffer sickness, you should not put words in another's mouth. The Bible does not say that and either do I. The only thing we know about Peter is that when he died he would glorify God and tradition has it that he was hung upside down on a cross, but it can not be verified.
However, IF Peter did become blind or suffer another illness or sickness as many people do, it is a trial and do you know what the Bible says about trial? It is to grow us in our faith, perseverance, purify us, yet we do not have to stay sick because Jesus healed us at the cross.
Some people will not die, if we are alive at Jesus' coming, then we will be transformed. Why do you not believe?
whitney
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And that has what to do with the question ? Nothing LOL another dodge as I PROPHECIED lol
Originally Posted by Hitch
Are there any sick people in your town ? If anyone is sick it must be your lack of faith,not theirs, after all the diciples raised the dead and how could the dead respond in faith ?
Please answer , especially the bold above.
If your claims are true why dont you raise the dead?
I did answer your question, you asked me if there were sick people in my town and I plainly said that Jesus told people they were healed because of THEIR faith, if you don't have faith then God won't heal you. How much more basic did Jesus have to be? You are simply like the pharisees who did not understand anything spiritual, you are one of the reasons Jesus had to emphatically point this out.
Lazarus was SAVED!
Do you not know Hitch that once you are created, you can no longer cease to exist? You will either go to heaven or hell? You will NEVER DIE!
Even a 5 year old could understand these basic concepts.
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Hitch
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Then you're publicly denying WOF dogma?
see above
You have come across as a WOF adherent ,will you say soone way or the other ?
Why do you not believe
Why dont you be more specific? What exactly do you mean by that charge you throw out continually ?
whitney
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What is WOF?
Why do you not believe that God heals or performs miracles? That is what I mean.
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ahh the beauty of personal attacks
So what? Any five year old can see I asked about those the diciples raised. LOL
Another nonsequiter, this has nothing to do with the discussion, I suspect its your standard dodge.
Actually God healed the Philistines ,and they were less than faithful . Nice try.
Be straight whitney, there isnt a pentecostal trick I ve never heard before and they dont work on me.
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Hitch
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Word of Faith ,,, specificly the teachings of Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, and others, already discussed on this thread ,and encapulated in the quote below;
Alabaster;
you should not put words in another's mouth
Who told you I dont believe God heals?
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whitney
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The problem with personal attacks, for me, is that I feel guilty afterwards - so I am sorry Hitch for attacking you, no excuse, it was just simply wrong of me.
I missed what WOF was and I do not follow any of those people you mentioned, never have. I don't know much about them.
The way you were arguing, it seemed you do not believe in the healings and miracles of God.
whitney
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ahh the beauty of personal attacks
Be straight whitney, there isnt a pentecostal trick I ve never heard before and they dont work on me.
I am not trying to dodge anything. A physically dead person would not be dead spiritually - so they still exist, just in a different form.
God can heal whoever He wants, yet healing the Philistines is off topic because we are talking about how we have the Holy Spirit today, along with His gifts, to heal and perform miracles in His name today.
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Alabaster
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Old age? Who knows? Lack of faith is not a reason for illness.
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Alabaster
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I am obeying Jesus by not casting my pearls. It is applicable and a good decision in this case.
I am only a laughingstock to those who hate. I am pleased to be considered a fool for Christ.
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Alabaster
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It is God's will that we be well. That is the truth.