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Christians are people who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ. The life and teachings of Jesus Christ are documented in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the Bible. Therefore, you might expect Christians to be constantly talking about what they’ve found in those four books. Why aren’t they?
 
Christians are people who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ. The life and teachings of Jesus Christ are documented in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the Bible. Therefore, you might expect Christians to be constantly talking about what they’ve found in those four books. Why aren’t they?

Cause we're lazy perhaps?
 
Because we are largely not encouraged to look any further than what the Church tells us to look.
 
Christians are people who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ. The life and teachings of Jesus Christ are documented in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the Bible. Therefore, you might expect Christians to be constantly talking about what they’ve found in those four books. Why aren’t they?
Who says they aren't? And to whom are you referring--all Christians, Christians in these forums, etc.? How often do you talk about them?
 
Christians are people who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ. The life and teachings of Jesus Christ are documented in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the Bible. Therefore, you might expect Christians to be constantly talking about what they’ve found in those four books. Why aren’t they?

It depends on how you define a Christian....the gospels you mentioned are not the only times that a Christian is mentioned in the Bible.

Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28, 1 Peter 4:16.

To suffer "as a Christian" is to suffer persecution for being a Christian. Those suffering are not to be ashamed (because they suffer for this reason) but are to "glorify God" (praise and honor him) "in this name" (i.e., in the name Christian).

An example will be seen in the conduct of Peter and John in Jerusalem when persecuted for preaching in the name of Christ, and their consequent "rejoicing that they were counted worthy to suffer dishonor for the Name." Acts 5:41.

The name "Christian" (christianos, a follower of Christ) occurs three times in the New Testament.

It was given for the first time to the disciples in Antioch, Acts 11:26, being the "new name" which the "mouth of the Lord would name" Isa 62:2.

The meaning is of Hebrew origin; it appears in the New Testament in Greek form, with a Latin termination; and points, like the inscription which Pilate caused to be placed on the cross to the world-wide empire which he established.
 
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Christians are people who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ. The life and teachings of Jesus Christ are documented in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the Bible. Therefore, you might expect Christians to be constantly talking about what they’ve found in those four books. Why aren’t they?
Because they're watching too much MWC football? :D
 
Christians are people who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ. The life and teachings of Jesus Christ are documented in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the Bible. Therefore, you might expect Christians to be constantly talking about what they’ve found in those four books. Why aren’t they?

BornAgain actually brings up a good point and one that should be looked closely at, I think the first question I have is why someone calling themselves a "Christian" would limit them to the Gospels?

If we look at the book of Acts (not one of the Gospels) we see where the disciples were first called "Christians" in Antioch.:


Acts 11:26 (KJV)
26. And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.


The Gospels are the teachings of the life and genealogy of Jesus the Christ, but the others are written with the same inspiration as the Gospels making them all from the same author making them all as important as any of the four Gospels.

A Christian should live by the whole Bible, not just select books in it...

This includes the Old Testament too, also of inspiration, the Old Testament won't save us, but it is our school master that teaches us why Christ had to come, and why we needed the Lamb of God.
 
Well just out of curiosity, when was the last time anyone discussed Mat 5, 6 and 7 in a positive way?
 
Well just out of curiosity, when was the last time anyone discussed Mat 5, 6 and 7 in a positive way?

I don't remember anyone saying anything negative about the first sermon ever preached?
 
Well, lets hear everyone extol the law of God...

Psa 119:97 MEM. O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day.

Mat 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

And then Christ continues by showing how the Scribes and Pharisees were not keeping His law in their hearts...

Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.

Thinking some bad thoughts about someone? Surely God would not put me to death for that, would He?

Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

Mat 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
Mat 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

How do you feel about divorce and remarriage? This is the intent of the 7th commandment. Marriage is sacred.

Not many discussions on here about how to keep the Ten Commandments and how deep that committment to obedience needs to go, now is there?
 
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Christians are people who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ. The life and teachings of Jesus Christ are documented in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the Bible. Therefore, you might expect Christians to be constantly talking about what they’ve found in those four books. Why aren’t they?



In a way, they are.

Christ said he represented what we call an Ideal, when he said "I am the Truth." (John 14:6)

He followed this with the explanation that whenever two or ore of the christians come together in commentary and religious discussion, there is The Truth being discussed and defined and elucidated, euphemistically stated that "he" is in their midst.
 
I don't remember anyone saying anything negative about the first sermon ever preached?



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I have heard christians confess that Matt 5 , 6, and 7 are very dificult to actually live up to, though.
In that sense, the Truth is that they admit they are being the christians Jesus would recognize according to what he said:


John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Matt 5 and 6 are rather uniquely separating people into two camps which in most cases exclude people claiming to be christians fall in largest numbers together with the unbelievers.
 
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I have heard christians confess that Matt 5 , 6, and 7 are very dificult to actually live up to, though.
In that sense, the Truth is that they admit they are being the christians Jesus would recognize according to what he said:


John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Matt 5 and 6 are rather uniquely separating people into two camps which in most cases exclude people claiming to be christians fall in largest numbers together with the unbelievers.
Hi cupid dave

The fact is, there are two camps, one being "Christian" and one being "not Christian". Your either in the one Church (Christian) or not.

It can be at times hard to be a Christian, Christ knew that, and is why he gave him self as the perfect lamb so we could have repentance, knowing every Christian will slip, giving a way to stay ever cleansed that we did not have during the Patriarchal or Mosaic age, giving us the third dispensation (Christian Dispensation).

But to be a Christian one must obey the whole Gospel, not just Mat. Mark, Luke & John... we need the full revelation of his word, none of it is more inspired than the others, not even the red letters...
 
Christians are people who profess to be followers of Jesus Christ. The life and teachings of Jesus Christ are documented in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in the Bible. Therefore, you might expect Christians to be constantly talking about what they’ve found in those four books. Why aren’t they?

Your position seems to be limiting Christians to the Synoptic Gospels, which is unwarranted as well as being short sighted.

The nature of the rest of canon (OT and NT) is that it builds upon other statements and previous precedents so that it weaves a wonderful tapestry of theology of God's unconditional love to His Covenant people.
 
To a large extent I agree with JimJib,

I think the best place to start a possible convert is to read John 14 as Jesus tells of His planed departure and the Apostles not understanding, and how Jesus prepares them for what will come to them, and parallel it with Acts 2 where the commission of the Church begins through Acts 6 where you see the prophecy of Jesus come to fruit including how he said they would hate them but remember they hated Him first, and to see what they did to Stephen...

The chapters are close together, one can hold the pages to flip back and fourth and see his prophecy come to life...
 
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