Christ's righteousness

[farouk]

I think there could also be a case for say it's taught or implied that Christ's righteousness is imputed, in 1 Corinthians 1.30, as well. (What do you think?) The phrase 'the righteousness of God' is more usually found, though. We can also be reminded of the unity and equality of the Persons of the Trinity. Blessings.

Yeah, that is another good verse. Guess I missed that one.


Also in Philemon 1:11, it says, Being filled with the fruits of righteousness, which are by Jesus Christ, unto the glory and praise of God. In other words, our righteousness is by (or from) Jesus Christ.

None of us could possibly hope to attain to righteousness on our own. Our sins were imputed to Christ, so that He could pay the price for them by His death on the cross. And in exchange, we are given His righteousness - like a robe, making us fit to approach GOD. After all, the only righteousness good enough for GOD is His own righteousness.

MsDee:

Yes, interesting.

But of course, it's correct to say that the righteousness of God is imputed, too.

Blessings.

 

[Butch5]

Hi Andy, Welcome to the board. I'd have to disagree with the point about Christ's righteousness, it is not imputed to the believer. That is a teaching that is rather modern in Christian teaching. The Scriptures say that it was Abraham's faith that was counted as righteousness. One is imputed righteous by God based on his/her faith. The righteousness of Christ is not imputed to the believer, this idea cannot be found taught in Scripture. I believe it is drawn from a misunderstanding of Romans 10:3

Romans 10:3 is not the only verse that clearly points to us being saved through Christ's righteousness. In 2 Peter 1:1, it says, "Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Savior Jesus Christ." We have obtained faith through the righteousness of God and of Jesus.

MissDee,

God's righteousness means being declared righteous by God rather than by one's self. Paul teaches that Abraham believed God and it (Abraham's Fatih) was counted as righteousness. Christ's righteousness was not imputed to Abraham, he was simply declare righteous on the basis of his faith. There is nothing in Scripture that teaches that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Butch:

Actually [MENTION=96527]MissDee[/MENTION] seems to be right; she has cited passages which seem to suggest that it's reasonable to say that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer; there may be one or two more such passages, also.

But, yes, mainly in the New Testament (Romans, etc.) it's stated that God's righteousness is imputed.

If you could cite the specific passages you are referring to that would helpful. However, as Paul said, Abraham's faith was counted at righteousness. The righteousness of God is one's faith being counted as righteous. I've seen nothing in the Scriptures that says that Christ's personal righteousness is imputed to the believer.

 

[farouk]

MissDee,

God's righteousness means being declared righteous by God rather than by one's self. Paul teaches that Abraham believed God and it (Abraham's Fatih) was counted as righteousness. Christ's righteousness was not imputed to Abraham, he was simply declare righteous on the basis of his faith. There is nothing in Scripture that teaches that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Butch:

Actually [MENTION=96527]MissDee[/MENTION] seems to be right; she has cited passages which seem to suggest that it's reasonable to say that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer; there may be one or two more such passages, also.

But, yes, mainly in the New Testament (Romans, etc.) it's stated that God's righteousness is imputed.

If you could cite the specific passages you are referring to that would helpful. However, as Paul said, Abraham's faith was counted at righteousness. The righteousness of God is one's faith being counted as righteous. I've seen nothing in the Scriptures that says that Christ's personal righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Scroll back and see the various references already suggested.

 

[Butch5]

MissDee,

God's righteousness means being declared righteous by God rather than by one's self. Paul teaches that Abraham believed God and it (Abraham's Fatih) was counted as righteousness. Christ's righteousness was not imputed to Abraham, he was simply declare righteous on the basis of his faith. There is nothing in Scripture that teaches that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Butch:

Actually [MENTION=96527]MissDee[/MENTION] seems to be right; she has cited passages which seem to suggest that it's reasonable to say that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer; there may be one or two more such passages, also.

But, yes, mainly in the New Testament (Romans, etc.) it's stated that God's righteousness is imputed.

If you could cite the specific passages you are referring to that would helpful. However, as Paul said, Abraham's faith was counted at righteousness. The righteousness of God is one's faith being counted as righteous. I've seen nothing in the Scriptures that says that Christ's personal righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Scroll back and see the various references already suggested.

I went through them all and see nothing stating that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer.

 

[SeekHisFace]

If you could cite the specific passages you are referring to that would helpful. However, as Paul said, Abraham's faith was counted at righteousness. The righteousness of God is one's faith being counted as righteous. I've seen nothing in the Scriptures that says that Christ's personal righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Scroll back and see the various references already suggested.

I went through them all and see nothing stating that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Post #12... because of our faith being counted as righteousness

Blessings...

 

[SeekHisFace]

Amen to this thread!!
I hope this will stay on track...

 

[Butch5]

If you could cite the specific passages you are referring to that would helpful. However, as Paul said, Abraham's faith was counted at righteousness. The righteousness of God is one's faith being counted as righteous. I've seen nothing in the Scriptures that says that Christ's personal righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Scroll back and see the various references already suggested.

I went through them all and see nothing stating that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Post #12... because of our faith being counted as righteousness

Blessings...

Hi SeekHisFace,

I agree that our faith is counted as righteousness but that doesn't mean Christ's faith is imputed to the believer. Christ hadn't lived the righteous life yet when Abraham lived, yet Abraham was counted righteous.

 

[SeekHisFace]

I went through them all and see nothing stating that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Post #12... because of our faith being counted as righteousness

Blessings...

Hi SeekHisFace,

I agree that our faith is counted as righteousness but that doesn't mean Christ's faith is imputed to the believer. Christ hadn't lived the righteous life yet when Abraham lived, yet Abraham was counted righteous.

It is because of Christ that we have what we have. It has everything to do with Him...and nothing to do with us. What He did for us on the cross---He is now in us, and we have what we have because of Him. Example...Christ is the heir...we are only co-heirs as we believe and have our faith and righteousness and walk in Him-- in His ways... because of what He did for us. That is why it is not righteousness of our own. He is in us and we become one. We are the temple of God, now. It is the help of the Father's Spirit that helps us to stand and walk in Him....because as we believe and trust in Him--He helps us in that walk.

I surely hope I explained that right...I hope someone else can help if I left anything out. Sometimes I don't explain things well...lol...
Thank you.
Blessings...

 

[SeekHisFace]

LOL..I 4got2say
Jesus came through that line of Abraham and David. He was the promised seed. Because of what He did for us, we can be co-heirs, and in His family=adoption.
And as we believe and trust in Him...He through the Spirit helps us with our walk.
Praise God...Hallelujah!

 

[Butch5]

I went through them all and see nothing stating that Christ's righteousness is imputed to the believer.

Post #12... because of our faith being counted as righteousness

Blessings...

Hi SeekHisFace,

I agree that our faith is counted as righteousness but that doesn't mean Christ's faith is imputed to the believer. Christ hadn't lived the righteous life yet when Abraham lived, yet Abraham was counted righteous.

It is because of Christ that we have what we have. It has everything to do with Him...and nothing to do with us. What He did for us on the cross---He is now in us, and we have what we have because of Him. Example...Christ is the heir...we are only co-heirs as we believe and have our faith and righteousness and walk in Him-- in His ways... because of what He did for us. That is why it is not righteousness of our own. He is in us and we become one. We are the temple of God, now. It is the help of the Father's Spirit that helps us to stand and walk in Him....because as we believe and trust in Him--He helps us in that walk.

I surely hope I explained that right...I hope someone else can help if I left anything out. Sometimes I don't explain things well...lol...
Thank you.
Blessings...

I disagree with this statement,

It has everything to do with Him...and nothing to do with us

It has a lot to do with us. It was Abraham's faith that was counted as righteousness, that had to do with Abraham. Jesus told His disciples, unless your righteousness passes that of the Pharisees you will not see the kingdom of Heaven. He said, their righteousness, not His.

 

[George Muller]

Ro 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ro 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ [unto all and upon all ]them that believe: for there is no difference:
Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Ro 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Ro 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Ro 4:23 ¶ Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Ro 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Yep we have a exceeding righteousness

 

[SeekHisFace]

Hi SeekHisFace,

I agree that our faith is counted as righteousness but that doesn't mean Christ's faith is imputed to the believer. Christ hadn't lived the righteous life yet when Abraham lived, yet Abraham was counted righteous.

It is because of Christ that we have what we have. It has everything to do with Him...and nothing to do with us. What He did for us on the cross---He is now in us, and we have what we have because of Him. Example...Christ is the heir...we are only co-heirs as we believe and have our faith and righteousness and walk in Him-- in His ways... because of what He did for us. That is why it is not righteousness of our own. He is in us and we become one. We are the temple of God, now. It is the help of the Father's Spirit that helps us to stand and walk in Him....because as we believe and trust in Him--He helps us in that walk.

I surely hope I explained that right...I hope someone else can help if I left anything out. Sometimes I don't explain things well...lol...
Thank you.
Blessings...

I disagree with this statement,

It has everything to do with Him...and nothing to do with us

It has a lot to do with us. It was Abraham's faith that was counted as righteousness, that had to do with Abraham. Jesus told His disciples, unless your righteousness passes that of the Pharisees you will not see the kingdom of Heaven. He said, their righteousness, not His.

Their religion was an outward show of self-rightousness
It is the "grace" that we get from what Jesus did for us. Not by what we did or are doing...but it is because of Him and the working of the Holy Spirit through us that allows us to be adopted. See, He, because we believe, adopted us...we did not adopt Him. So, therefore, it has nothing to do with us except that we believe and trust in Him---and keep walking in Him:

Col 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

Because of what He did for us---through His death, to present us holy and unblameable IF we continue...
We just need to be steadfast and trust in Him...

Blessings...

 

[SeekHisFace]

Ro 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ro 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Ro 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Ro 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Ro 4:23 ¶ Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Ro 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Yep we have a exceeding righteousness

Thank you
Yes, and here I am trying to explain in my own words...
You did much better...thank you again...

Blessings...

 

[Butch5]

I disagree with this statement,

It has everything to do with Him...and nothing to do with us

It has a lot to do with us. It was Abraham's faith that was counted as righteousness, that had to do with Abraham. Jesus told His disciples, unless your righteousness passes that of the Pharisees you will not see the kingdom of Heaven. He said, their righteousness, not His.

Their religion was an outward show of self-rightousness
It is the "grace" that we get from what Jesus did for us. Not by what we did or are doing...but it is because of Him and the working of the Holy Spirit through us that allows us to be adopted. See, He, because we believe, adopted us...we did not adopt Him. So, therefore, it has nothing to do with us except that we believe and trust in Him---and keep walking in Him:

Col 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
Col 1:23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

Because of what He did for us---through His death, to present us holy and unblameable IF we continue...
We just need to be steadfast and trust in Him...

Blessings...

If we continue, thus there is stuff we must do.

 

[Butch5]

Ro 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ro 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ [unto all and upon all ]them that believe: for there is no difference:
Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Ro 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Ro 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Ro 4:23 ¶ Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Ro 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Yep we have a exceeding righteousness

This passage was written to Jewish believers who had been under the Law and Paul is arguing that justification is through faith and not via the Law. He uses Abraham as an example, since Abraham lived 430 before the Law he couldn't have been justified through the Law, thus his argument is proven. He says it was Abraham's faith that was imputed as righteousness, not Christ's.

 

[Elijah674]

When we fully agree with Christ, what more could one do than to Love him in worship?? (regardless of our growth)

--Elijah

 

[George Muller]

Ro 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ro 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ [unto all and upon all ]them that believe: for there is no difference:
Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Ro 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Ro 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Ro 4:23 ¶ Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Ro 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Yep we have a exceeding righteousness

This passage was written to Jewish believers who had been under the Law and Paul is arguing that justification is through faith and not via the Law. He uses Abraham as an example, since Abraham lived 430 before the Law he couldn't have been justified through the Law, thus his argument is proven. He says it was Abraham's faith that was imputed as righteousness, not Christ's.

The book of Romans is written to all believers, both Jew and gentile. Paul makes this point over and over. UNTO ALL AND UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE.

 

[Butch5]

Ro 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ro 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ [unto all and upon all ]them that believe: for there is no difference:
Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Ro 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Ro 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Ro 4:23 ¶ Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Ro 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Yep we have a exceeding righteousness

This passage was written to Jewish believers who had been under the Law and Paul is arguing that justification is through faith and not via the Law. He uses Abraham as an example, since Abraham lived 430 before the Law he couldn't have been justified through the Law, thus his argument is proven. He says it was Abraham's faith that was imputed as righteousness, not Christ's.

The book of Romans is written to all believers, both Jew and gentile. Paul makes this point over and over. UNTO ALL AND UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE.

Hi George,

I should have been more clear. Yes, the book of Romans was written to both Jew and Gentile, however, in it Paul addresses these groups differently at different times. For instance, he begins a dialog with the Jews in chapter 2 verse 17 that continues through to chapter 11 verse 13 at which point he turns his attention to the Gentiles.

 

[George Muller]

Ro 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Ro 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ [unto all and upon all ]them that believe: for there is no difference:
Ro 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

Ro 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
Ro 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
Ro 4:23 ¶ Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;
Ro 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Yep we have a exceeding righteousness

This passage was written to Jewish believers who had been under the Law and Paul is arguing that justification is through faith and not via the Law. He uses Abraham as an example, since Abraham lived 430 before the Law he couldn't have been justified through the Law, thus his argument is proven. He says it was Abraham's faith that was imputed as righteousness, not Christ's.

The book of Romans is written to all believers, both Jew and gentile. Paul makes this point over and over. UNTO ALL AND UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE.

Hi George,

I should have been more clear. Yes, the book of Romans was written to both Jew and Gentile, however, in it Paul addresses these groups differently at different times. For instance, he begins a dialog with the Jews in chapter 2 verse 17 that continues through to chapter 11 verse 13 at which point he turns his attention to the Gentiles.

Well I believe he does address the Jews at certain times and uses them as an example throughout, to explain the purpose of the Old covenant and the New. But he makes the same point over and over that the truth is the truth for both Jew and Gentile. The Jew must be justified by faith and the gentile as well. The jew could not be justified by the law, nor can the gentile.

 

[Butch5]

The book of Romans is written to all believers, both Jew and gentile. Paul makes this point over and over. UNTO ALL AND UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE.

Hi George,

I should have been more clear. Yes, the book of Romans was written to both Jew and Gentile, however, in it Paul addresses these groups differently at different times. For instance, he begins a dialog with the Jews in chapter 2 verse 17 that continues through to chapter 11 verse 13 at which point he turns his attention to the Gentiles.

Well I believe he does address the Jews at certain times and uses them as an example throughout, to explain the purpose of the Old covenant and the New. But he makes the same point over and over that the truth is the truth for both Jew and Gentile. The Jew must be justified by faith and the gentile as well. The jew could not be justified by the law, nor can the gentile.

I agree, that's the whole point of using Abraham as an example. Abraham lived before the Law existed, therefore if Abraham was justified it was not via the Law thus justification doesn't come via the Law but rather by faith.