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Contradicting Beliefs

Jesus greatest frustration was seeing the way the pharisees stood in way of God's children and Him. Rules, rituals, laws. They can be useful or abusive. When they assume greater importance than a heart for the Lord, they are being abused. The accounts of children in the Gospels comes to mind. We know how the children breached the rules of decorum that were imposed by church leaders at the time. It was breaking protocol when the children ran up to our Lord.

Luke 18
"15 People were also bringing babies to Jesus to have him touch them. When the disciples saw this, they rebuked them. 16 But Jesus called the children to him and said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. 17 I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.”

We grow in wisdom and knowledge of the Lord as we get older and invest more time in His Word, but that is for our benefit; not the Lord's. It is good to please Him and to know what pleases him. We complicate everything so much, building walls between the God of Love and others. When we put such rigid demands where God has not, such as "You may not use instruments during worship!" when the Bible never associates instruments with salvation, we cause believers to stumble. There are too many modern pharisees who impose all those rules that Jesus detested and too many children of Lord who believe them.

That's sad.

Matthew 12
"34 You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 The good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and the evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”
 
We grow in wisdom and knowledge of the Lord as we get older and invest more time in His Word, but that is for our benefit; not the Lord's. It is good to please Him and to know what pleases him. We complicate everything so much, building walls between the God of Love and others. When we put such rigid demands where God has not, such as "You may not use instruments during worship!" when the Bible never associates instruments with salvation, we cause believers to stumble. There are too many modern pharisees who impose all those rules that Jesus detested and too many children of Lord who believe them.

That's sad.

What is sad is when God gives man a command to "sing" and man says okay, a-one, and-a-two, and-a-three... hit it boys! and off starts the band he never commanded...

What is sad is when man worships God in a way that makes man happy, and not the way he commanded...
 
rrowell,
chapter and verse for the command you speak of?
 

Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Mar 12:31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
 
Hi Reba

I like the organ and piano, etc., but in the matter of "psalms, hymn and spiritual songs (Eph.5:19, Col.3:16) God said "sing." Now did He or did He not simply say "sing"? You wanted a scripture? How about Phil.2:13, it "his good pleasure" (God's). Now is it to "his good pleasure" or my good pleasure? Whats so hard about that?
 
Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Eph 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Eph 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Eph 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
Eph 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Eph 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Eph 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


I see no command and I see nothing about a worship service, or time

 
Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Eph 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Eph 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Eph 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
Eph 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Eph 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Eph 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


I see no command and I see nothing about a worship service, or time


Great verses there. I love Ephesians.

Blessings.
 
Php 2:1 If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,
Php 2:2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
Php 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.
Php 2:4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.
Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Php 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Php 2:14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
Php 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;
Php 2:16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.
Php 2:17 Yea, and if I be offered upon the sacrifice and service of your faith, I joy, and rejoice with you all.
Php 2:18 For the same cause also do ye joy, and rejoice with me.
Php 2:19 But I trust in the Lord Jesus to send Timotheus shortly unto you, that I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state.
Php 2:20 For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state.
Php 2:21 For all seek their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ's.
Php 2:22 But ye know the proof of him, that, as a son with the father, he hath served with me in the gospel.
Php 2:23 Him therefore I hope to send presently, so soon as I shall see how it will go with me.
Php 2:24 But I trust in the Lord that I also myself shall come shortly.
Php 2:25 Yet I supposed it necessary to send to you Epaphroditus, my brother, and companion in labour, and fellowsoldier, but your messenger, and he that ministered to my wants.
Php 2:26 For he longed after you all, and was full of heaviness, because that ye had heard that he had been sick.
Php 2:27 For indeed he was sick nigh unto death: but God had mercy on him; and not on him only, but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow.
Php 2:28 I sent him therefore the more carefully, that, when ye see him again, ye may rejoice, and that I may be the less sorrowful.
Php 2:29 Receive him therefore in the Lord with all gladness; and hold such in reputation:
Php 2:30 Because for the work of Christ he was nigh unto death, not regarding his life, to supply your lack of service toward me.

I do not see thou shall not have any IM in worship I don't see it cause it aint there.
 
Col 3:1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Col 3:2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
Col 3:3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
Col 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Col 3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
Col 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
Col 3:7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
Col 3:8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
Col 3:9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
Col 3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Col 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Col 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
Col 3:13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
Col 3:14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
Col 3:15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
Col 3:16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
Col 3:17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Col 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
Col 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
Col 3:20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
Col 3:21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
Col 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
Col 3:23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
Col 3:24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
Col 3:25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.


Not there either Webb,,,

These are the passages you gave they are posted in context although a reading of the complete books is best..

I know I am not going to change your mind I just want any one who is reading about this to have the passages in context so they can see a command to not have IM is not Scriptural .

The main difference I see I don't believe those who do not believe IM is proper are hell bound. CofC teaches if folks follow the 150 Psalm they are sinning...

Eph your lead verse says :
Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

Psa 150:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.
Psa 150:2 Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.
Psa 150:3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.
Psa 150:4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
Psa 150:5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.
Psa 150:6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.


The CofC must believe they have a better understanding of Scripture then Paul.


 
Only God truly knows his own sheep, and we hear His voice and follow Him .
In the book of Judges the law had been misplaced and everyone did what was right in his own eyes. It was a disaster in their history.
There are many scriptures about becoming a Christian in theBible. I suspect when we get to heaven that God willhave used them all
But not necessarily all in the life of a single person. WE KNOW THAT GRACE, REPENTANCE AND FAITH ARE ALL FREE GIFTS OF GOD.
Our salvation rests not on what we do but on what He has done. How we respond may vary but shoulld be scriptual and inspired by God.
A Christian is a person in whom Christ lives by His Spirit.
The spirit of Christ does not cause strife or division. In fact we are supposed to avoid people who do this.
 
Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
Eph 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Eph 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Eph 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;
Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
Eph 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Eph 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.
Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Eph 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.


I see no command and I see nothing about a worship service, or time

Eph. 5:19, Col. 3.16
 
reba said:
These are the passages you gave they are posted in context although a reading of the complete books is best..

I know I am not going to change your mind I just want any one who is reading about this to have the passages in context so they can see a command to not have IM is not Scriptural .

The main difference I see I don't believe those who do not believe IM is proper are hell bound. CofC teaches if folks follow the 150 Psalm they are sinning...

Nicely said. The pharisees were unable to see the way they abused God's Word and crippled His people. As difficult as it is for us to hear, it had to be infinitely more so for Jesus to see His sheep tethered by it. His Words to the pharisees should have struck them with fear, but they were convinced they had the authoritative duty. The doctrine of the CoC is relentlessly pounding its members into submission, and it's hardest for them to get past this faulty logic and see the Truth. There will always be sects who draw wrong conclusions from the Word and come to believe they alone do what must be done to have their names written into the Book of Life. Though they aren't persuaded, it's good to expose such harmful doctrine to the Light so that others do not fall prey to it.

Have a blessed Christmas, everyone. :)
 
The Bible makes it clear that truth is not subjective. Today people think that whatever is true for them ought to be true for everyone, or that whatever is true for everyone else is not necessarily true for them. But the Bible is our moral standard. It has to be our guide to the truth in a world that is caught up in things that are not true.

In John 8:32 Jesus spoke of the importance of truth when He said, “You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.†Not only is truth something we can know, but it also is something we must know if we want to be right with God.

Another hindrance to knowing the truth is human tradition and personal bias. If we put our trust in what others believe, in human tradition, “what we’ve always done,†“what we like,†or “what feels good,†then it will prevent us from knowing the truth.

In Jesus’ time, one of the things that He despised the most were people who trusted traditions more than they did the Word of God.

In Matthew 15:7-9 Jesus said, “Hypocrites! What did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying, ‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth, and honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me.

In vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ †Jesus said, “You claim to love Me, and you claim that you want to follow Me, yet your hearts are far from Me.†Why? It was because they worshiped in vain, “teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.â€

In Matthew 23:3 Jesus repeatedly said, “Woe to you, scribes, Pharisees, and hypocrites.†He then said, “You travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves†(vs. 15).

Jesus accused these people of cleansing the outside, while on the inside being full of dead men’s bones. These people were focused on their traditions.
 
Another hindrance to knowing the truth is human tradition and personal
bias
. If we put our trust in what others believe, in human tradition, “what
we’ve always done,†“what we like,†or “what feels good,†then it will prevent
us from knowing the truth.
Exactly the personal bias of CofC shows clearly because the command to not have IM is not scriptural. The human tradition of no IM feels good to some.... IM is not unto salvation.


In vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ †Jesus
said, “You claim to love Me, and you claim that you want to follow Me, yet your
hearts are far from Me.†Why? It was because they worshiped in vain, “teaching
as doctrines the commandments of men.â€

Psalms 150 is not the doctrine of man...
 
Only God truly knows his own sheep, and we hear His voice and follow Him .
In the book of Judges the law had been misplaced and everyone did what was right in his own eyes. It was a disaster in their history.
There are many scriptures about becoming a Christian in theBible. I suspect when we get to heaven that God willhave used them all
But not necessarily all in the life of a single person. WE KNOW THAT GRACE, REPENTANCE AND FAITH ARE ALL FREE GIFTS OF GOD.
Our salvation rests not on what we do but on what He has done. How we respond may vary but shoulld be scriptual and inspired by God.
A Christian is a person in whom Christ lives by His Spirit.
The spirit of Christ does not cause strife or division. In fact we are supposed to avoid people who do this.

worth a repeat :)
 
Exactly the personal bias of CofC shows clearly because the command to not have IM is not scriptural. The human tradition of no IM feels good to some.... IM is not unto salvation.

the CoC did not write Eph. 5:19 or Col. 3:16, it is in the Bible written by Apostles and the hand of the Holy Spirit Reba, NOT the CoC, it appears only the CoC reads the Bible...

"sing and make melody" is the command, and the "heart" is the instrument, you sing from the heart Reba, it is what the Bible says, there is no mechanical instrument there... the heart is the instrument Reba.

Psalms 150 is not the doctrine of man...

It is also not the Doctrine of Christ, it is also not the Doctrine he died and shed his blood for, it is also not the Church he built...
 
19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

Where is the command?

the CoC did not write Eph.
5:19
or Col.
3:16
, it is in the Bible written by Apostles and the hand of the Holy
Spirit Reba, NOT the CoC, it appears only the CoC reads the Bible...
What about Psalms 150 is that not part of the Bible?
 
Post #51 is all of Eph 5,, Where does it say anything about a worship service? It doesn't by the standards of CofC wouldn't IM be sinful any time?
 
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