Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 12:11-12

[for_his_glory]

Yes, ALL of verse 24 has been fulfilled.
Jesus said He came to fulfill the Law and the Prophets and He did.

Just one of your questions...
"Has everyone made reconciliation yet?"
That verse is about what Messiah would do, not what man would do. So the question is, did Messiah coming do this?
What about transgression, did He take care of that, yes He did. If not we are still in our sin.

2Co 5:18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
2Co 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Messiah is cut-off at the crucifixion which is the 69th week. God set aside the wrath that will come in the 70th week and revealed the revelation of the mystery to the apostle Paul and we will be in that gap until the rapture of the church and then God will pour out his wrath upon the earth.

The command to rebuild Jerusalem was in 457BC. Daniel 9:25 says it took 7 weeks (49 years) to rebuild. This brings us to 408BC.

Then Daniel says 62 weeks later (434 years) Messiah will arrive. This brings us to 27AD which is the end of week 69 and start of week 70. (408 – 343 = -26. Add 1 year for year “0” and you come to 27AD)

Then Daniel 9:26, 27 says Messiah is cut off and in the midst of week 70th Jesus shall confirm the covenant (grace) and that which is determined (judged) will be that of Gods judgment of those not found written in the Lamb’s book of life.. (31AD)

 

[Deborah13]

Jesus is what made the Abrahamic Covenant available to the Gentiles.

as it is written -

"As for Me, behold, My covenant is with you, and you shall be a father of many nations.Genesis 17:4

and again -

1 "Behold! My Servant whom I uphold, My Elect One in whom My soul delights! I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles. 2 He will not cry out, nor raise His voice, Nor cause His voice to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed He will not break, And smoking flax He will not quench; He will bring forth justice for truth. 4 He will not fail nor be discouraged, Till He has established justice in the earth; And the coastlands shall wait for His law." 5 Thus says God the Lord, Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it, Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it: 6 "I, the Lord, have called You in righteousness, And will hold Your hand; I will keep You and give You as a covenant to the people, As a light to the Gentiles, Isaiah 42:1-6


God's intent and purpose in Christ was to create One New man, after the pattern of Abraham who is the father of both Jew and gentile, and is himself as it were both Jew and Gentile whose walked with God and obtained righteous by faith, which is to say He obeyed His Voice as well as kept His commandments His statutes, His commandments and His laws.

And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, "In you all the nations shall be blessed." So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham. Galatians 3:8-9


JLB

Good post JLB, all true. The One New Man, Jew and Gentile, was always God's plan.

Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
Isa 42:6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

Messiah was the fulfillment of this scripture. Messiah is the light to the Gentiles.

 

[Deborah13]

Messiah is cut-off at the crucifixion which is the 69th week. God set aside the wrath that will come in the 70th week and revealed the revelation of the mystery to the apostle Paul and we will be in that gap until the rapture of the church and then God will pour out his wrath upon the earth.

The command to rebuild Jerusalem was in 457BC. Daniel 9:25 says it took 7 weeks (49 years) to rebuild. This brings us to 408BC.

Then Daniel says 62 weeks later (434 years) Messiah will arrive. This brings us to 27AD which is the end of week 69 and start of week 70. (408 – 343 = -26. Add 1 year for year “0” and you come to 27AD)

Then Daniel 9:26, 27 says Messiah is cut off and in the midst of week 70th Jesus shall confirm the covenant (grace)

I agree

and that which is determined (judged)

I agree

will be that of Gods judgment of those not found written in the Lamb’s book of life.. (31AD)

Where is "those written in the Lamb's book, mentioned in the prophecy?
Where is the Bride of Christ mentioned in the prophecy?

70wks for Daniel's people. Not all Daniel's people are written in the Book.

 

[ezrider]

Messiah is cut-off at the crucifixion which is the 69th week. God set aside the wrath that will come in the 70th week and revealed the revelation of the mystery to the apostle Paul and we will be in that gap until the rapture of the church and then God will pour out his wrath upon the earth.

What gap? Where is there a gap? As it is, God has already poured out His wrath according to the vision of Daniel. His wrath was poured out upon the people and the city when it was destroyed in 70AD. I posted the verses earlier, and it seems like it was probably just ignored, but who knows, but you should really go back and read Matthew 22 and consider what is being told within the parable of the wedding feast, because it shows you the ministry of Jesus and his disciples, and the preaching of the gospel of the kingdom.

I think most things in the scripture have types and examples of previous events that we may draw on for our spiritual understanding.

We find our biggest example from which to draw from in the exodus from the land of Egypt. There the Lord delivered them from their oppressor, and brought them into the Desert where He told the children of Israel that He would write his laws in their hearts and in their minds, and they would be a holy nation, and a peculiar people. But the children of Israel rejected the Lord, and said let us not hear again your voice, lest we die. So they chose instead to listen to Moses, and thereby made their covenant with death. 40 years they wandered in the wilderness before they could enter the promised land, but before they could enter the promise land, that generation had to die. So God through the prophets prophesy of a new covenant, one in which the Lord promises that he will write his laws in our heart and in our minds, and that we should be a royal priesthood, and holy nation and a peculiar people, just as it was during the exodus. Jesus came declaring the kingdom of Heaven, the spiritual promise land, the forgiveness of sins and the Mercy of the Lord. He came and confirmed the new covenant, releasing them from their covenant with death and from their yoke of oppression.

So now lets pay attention to the parable of the marriage feast.

Matt 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. These servants that were sent out were Jesus and his Disciples, spreading the gospel of the Kingdom and the forgiveness of sins.

Matt 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. These other servant sent forth would have been after the crucifixion of Christ and would have included the likes of Stephen, Luke, Barnabas, Titus, Paul etc..

Matt 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. Our glaring example of this is the stoning of Stephen.

Matt 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. Here is the wrath promised as the prince who shall come. The Jews rejected the promises of the Lord a second time saying we have Moses. And they took and slew his servants, ie. the abomination that brings desolation, and judgement was brought upon them, and in 70AD the temple and the city were destroyed. See also Rev 6:9-11.

How many time did Jesus say this generation shall not pass till....? This Generation: the generation that heard the promises of Lord. The Generation that began when Jesus was baptized and He began preaching the gospel of the kingdom and confirming the covenant of Grace. If the ministry of Jesus began around 29AD or so, is it really so surprising to see that 40 years later judgement came upon that generation, and the city and the sanctuary laid waste.

 

[JLB]

What gap? Where is there a gap? As it is, God has already poured out His wrath according to the vision of Daniel. His wrath was poured out upon the people and the city when it was destroyed in 70AD. I posted the verses earlier, and it seems like it was probably just ignored, but who knows, but you should really go back and read Matthew 22 and consider what is being told within the parable of the wedding feast, because it shows you the ministry of Jesus and his disciples, and the preaching of the gospel of the kingdom.

I think most things in the scripture have types and examples of previous events that we may draw on for our spiritual understanding.

We find our biggest example from which to draw from in the exodus from the land of Egypt. There the Lord delivered them from their oppressor, and brought them into the Desert where He told the children of Israel that He would write his laws in their hearts and in their minds, and they would be a holy nation, and a peculiar people. But the children of Israel rejected the Lord, and said let us not hear again your voice, lest we die. So they chose instead to listen to Moses, and thereby made their covenant with death. 40 years they wandered in the wilderness before they could enter the promised land, but before they could enter the promise land, that generation had to die. So God through the prophets prophesy of a new covenant, one in which the Lord promises that he will write his laws in our heart and in our minds, and that we should be a royal priesthood, and holy nation and a peculiar people, just as it was during the exodus. Jesus came declaring the kingdom of Heaven, the spiritual promise land, the forgiveness of sins and the Mercy of the Lord. He came and confirmed the new covenant, releasing them from their covenant with death and from their yoke of oppression.

So now lets pay attention to the parable of the marriage feast.

Matt 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. These servants that were sent out were Jesus and his Disciples, spreading the gospel of the Kingdom and the forgiveness of sins.

Matt 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. These other servant sent forth would have been after the crucifixion of Christ and would have included the likes of Stephen, Luke, Barnabas, Titus, Paul etc..

Matt 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. Our glaring example of this is the stoning of Stephen.

Matt 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. Here is the wrath promised as the prince who shall come. The Jews rejected the promises of the Lord a second time saying we have Moses. And they took and slew his servants, ie. the abomination that brings desolation, and judgement was brought upon them, and in 70AD the temple and the city were destroyed. See also Rev 6:9-11.

How many time did Jesus say this generation shall not pass till....? This Generation: the generation that heard the promises of Lord. The Generation that began when Jesus was baptized and He began preaching the gospel of the kingdom and confirming the covenant of Grace. If the ministry of Jesus began around 29AD or so, is it really so surprising to see that 40 years later judgement came upon that generation, and the city and the sanctuary laid waste.

For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:21

The Great Tribulation has not happened.

JLB

 

[Deborah13]

For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:21

The Great Tribulation has not happened.

JLB

I read Flavius Josephus description of what happened to the people in Jerusalem, if that was not tribulation I don't know what could be worse. What happened there was much worse the Sodom and Gomorrah burning or Noah's Flood.

 

[ezrider]

For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:21

The Great Tribulation has not happened.

JLB

You believe that the tribulation has not happened, as you have adamantly repeated. I have told you I believe the tribulation spoken of was fulfilled long ago, and I have given you scriptures that have persuaded me. I can rest assured that you believe in the Lord, so I do not need to debate you on this matter, I trust in the Lord that His Spirit will reveal unto us the truth to each of us in our own time.

In your insistence that the 70th week has not occurred, that the tribulation has not happen, and that the book of Revelation is yet future, you miss something that is very important when it comes to our walk in Faith. When you insist it is yet appointed for a future time, it leaves you in command of interpreting the scriptures in the reflection of your own beliefs. I may believe the tribulation spoken of is in the past, but to me it does not matter. It could be past, it may yet be future. In my Faith it does not matter because the Lord is already with me. But by Faith and believing it possible to have already been fulfilled with no further expectation of being past, present, or future, my mind has been freed to hear the Spirit of Christ instruct me in truth without presupposition.

 

[Dave Watchman]

You believe that the tribulation has not happened, as you have adamantly repeated. I have told you I believe the tribulation spoken of was fulfilled long ago, and I have given you scriptures that have persuaded me. I can rest assured that you believe in the Lord, so I do not need to debate you on this matter, I trust in the Lord that His Spirit will reveal unto us the truth to each of us in our own time.

In your insistence that the 70th week has not occurred, that the tribulation has not happen, and that the book of Revelation is yet future, you miss something that is very important when it comes to our walk in Faith. When you insist it is yet appointed for a future time, it leaves you in command of interpreting the scriptures in the reflection of your own beliefs. I may believe the tribulation spoken of is in the past, but to me it does not matter. It could be past, it may yet be future. In my Faith it does not matter because the Lord is already with me. But by Faith and believing it possible to have already been fulfilled with no further expectation of being past, present, or future, my mind has been freed to hear the Spirit of Christ instruct me in truth without presupposition.

Hi ezrider

I also believe that Daniel's 70th week is finished but it sounds like you are saying Revelation is finished too. If the tribulation was finished in the 70th week are you saying there will be no Time of The End tribulation for us? If we don't get the Daniel 9 or 12 deal, what will our Appointed Time of The End deal be?

 

[ezrider]

Hi ezrider

I also believe that Daniel's 70th week is finished but it sounds like you are saying Revelation is finished too. If the tribulation was finished in the 70th week are you saying there will be no Time of The End tribulation for us? If we don't get the Daniel 9 or 12 deal, what will our Appointed Time of The End deal be?

Dave, just so there is no misunderstanding, I am not making any claims that the book of Revelation is completely finished, although there is much I already see as fulfilled, there is still much I do not understand; but the desire to know for myself no longer consumes me, and I have learned to wait upon the Spirit of the Lord, and I trust that one day he will make known to me the truth of it when I am mature enough in Spirit to receive it . The book of Revelation is a complicated book to understand, it is full of imagery that can lead to some wild imaginations and interpretations. The one thing I know to be true, is the book of Revelation is book concerning the revelation or revealing of Jesus Christ the Son of God and his kingdom. It is a book to be understood only in the Spirit, for it was given to John while in the Spirit.

So no, I am not saying that the book of Revelation is finished, but there is nothing in it that requires me to believe it is yet future. If I can accept that the book may be finished and is in the past, then I can overcome the snare of the flesh in thinking that it applies to me somehow, and therefore I must understand them to so I can avoid sin or avoid the mark of the beast or whatever. We seek to understand so that we are in control of our own destiny. In accepting that it has already past, the motivations of my flesh have been contained, allowing the Spirit of Christ to reveal his truth to me when I am ready for it.

I believe that while we are in the flesh we shall always have tribulation. I believe that much of the prophesied tribulation from the prophets and the gospels had to do with the destruction of the physical Jerusalem. I do believe there is a future tribulation to come, but it will be a tribulation of the Spirit for those who still look for their messiah to appear because they sought to understand their own future instead of understanding the past. Because they have not listened, because they have not believed, they await the second coming of their Lord. By FAITH, I know that the Spirit of the Lord is with me already, so why should I look for another?

 

[Dave Watchman]

I do believe there is a future tribulation to come, but it will be a tribulation of the Spirit for those who still look for their messiah to appear because they sought to understand their own future instead of understanding the past. Because they have not listened, because they have not believed, they await the second coming of their Lord. By FAITH, I know that the Spirit of the Lord is with me already, so why should I look for another?

You are right in that having the faith of Jesus is the number one thing. I believe however that the tribulation is not just spiritual. I worry for the people who hold to the preterist view. At some point in the near future the real destructive events of Revelation may begin. What will the preterists do, have nervous breakdowns? I guess it will be scary for everyone but The Holy Spirit will be poured out, God's Spirit will be close to us. I believe that each one of our individual destinies are decided prior to the start of the tribulation. This is why I'm not stocking up on supplies trying to beat the tribulation, it would be futile.



If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.

Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.



I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne. They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.


There would seem to be a specific number of martyrs before the end of the tribulation. During the tribulation if we are to die a martyrs death it will not be frightening at all. Jesus will be right there with us like He was when Stephen was stoned and Polycarp was burned at the stake. I am more worried about what to do with my cats right now than about myself.

 

[ezrider]

You are right in that having the faith of Jesus is the number one thing. I believe however that the tribulation is not just spiritual. I worry for the people who hold to the preterist view. At some point in the near future the real destructive events of Revelation may begin. What will the preterists do, have nervous breakdowns? I guess it will be scary for everyone but The Holy Spirit will be poured out, God's Spirit will be close to us. I believe that each one of our individual destinies are decided prior to the start of the tribulation. This is why I'm not stocking up on supplies trying to beat the tribulation, it would be futile.



If anyone is to be taken captive,
to captivity he goes;
if anyone is to be slain with the sword,
with the sword must he be slain.

Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.



I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne. They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.


There would seem to be a specific number of martyrs before the end of the tribulation. During the tribulation if we are to die a martyrs death it will not be frightening at all. Jesus will be right there with us like He was when Stephen was stoned and Polycarp was burned at the stake. I am more worried about what to do with my cats right now than about myself.

Dave, I do not know what preterists teach or what they believe about the future. I had never even heard of preterism until I came onto this community forum. I have read other peoples posts before about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD, but quite frankly it never really interested me and I never gave it much consideration, and I no longer have a desire to try study the bible or some man's book to figure these things out for myself. My Faith is in the Lord, and I have learned to trust in His Spirit to teach me.

When I was younger, I read The Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey long before I ever read the Bible. And because I was young and naive, and because of the conflicts that seems to consume the world, the story was plausible, and who was this Antichrist that I should be aware of or fear; but a seed was planted to look for the Antichrist, and the Bible was sold to me as a book that can tell me the future. When I read the Bible for myself for the first time, it was simply natural to me since I had listen to the learned prophesy teachers to look for the Antichrist; And for years I studied with that mindset, using the prophetic road map for the future events as laid out by these false prophets. Then something transpired in my life that shattered my faith and left me with doubt as to everything I had learned. I hungered and thirsted after knowledge for knowledge sake, but that knowledge betrayed me and left me in doubt of my very salvation, and with no faith left in anything that I had learned, I heard in my mind a voice saying return to your first love. And so I sought to seek out the words of Christ. After the Spirit of Christ was arisen in my heart, I could no longer study the Bible. It was as if I was reading pages that were blank to me. Through it my desire for knowledge has been taken from me, but in its place I have found a Faith that I can not explain. I do not trust to my own understanding of the scriptures, but when the spirit reveals something, I find no room for doubt.

It took years for me to be able to look in the Bible again without the thoughts of an Antichrist influencing me, and my only desire was to learn more about Christ. It was not from any understanding of mine that I came to believe that the 70 weeks of Daniel were about the Messiah, it was shown me by the spirit of the Lord, and I believed, and I accepted in Faith that Christ had fulfilled that which was set forth in Daniel 9:24. I have not even given much thought to the book of Daniel for quite some time until I responded to this thread, and as I had mentioned before, I have never really given the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD any consideration. But in the course of this thread, as the Spirit of the Lord showed me the parable of the wedding feast, I finally understood the fulfillment in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD. That Judgement upon Jerusalem is in the past as is the Judgement that came on Sodom and Gomorrah is in the past. That Tribulation is past, the Great White Throne Judgement awaits.

 

[for_his_glory]

The Lord said through his prophets that HE would forgive them their iniquities and would remember their sins no more. It is the people who glory in sin. But what saith the scriptures, shall not GRACE abound the more? But from the standpoint of God, he declared an end of sin so that He could make reconciliation with his people. As it is written, God is a God of the living and not the dead (Matt 22:32); For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living (Rom 14:9).

Galatians 4 talks about the two Jerusalem's, which are an allegory for the two covenants. The new Covenant is of the Spirit. But I find it interesting that Paul states that the desolate (old covenant, those without a husband) have many more children than She (new Jerusalem) which has a Husband. Now that's something to think about. Just who are the people who have prophesied in is name and cast out demons in his name, and have done many great works in his name, but Jesus says he never knew you, depart from me you workers of iniquity.

I think as it pertains to this discussion about Daniel 9:24-27, the people of the prince who shall come, the Bride of Christ and the destruction of Jerusalem, it would probably be a good time to meditate on the parable of the marriage feast, and let the Spirit of Christ speak to your heart.

Matthew 22:1-14
And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are called, but few are chosen.

He has called you to the marriage feast, he has given you the Spirit of Christ for a wedding Garment, but still you will not come.

A final parting thought. Do the people who believe that the 70 weeks are actually 490 years, and that somehow there is a 2000 year gap between the 69th and 70th week also insist that the creation account in the Book of Genesis is literally 7 consecutive 24 hour days?

God never declared an end to sin and the death of Christ on the cross was not for the end of sin, but was made a final offering for sin. I never said there was a 2000 year gap. I said from the 69th week that ended when Christ was made the final offering for sin until the times of the Gentiles to that time of Christ return is that of the 70th week as what the gap means is that length of time that no man can number for all things to be fulfilled as in that of Daniel 9:24.

 

[for_his_glory]

I agree



I agree



Where is "those written in the Lamb's book, mentioned in the prophecy?
Where is the Bride of Christ mentioned in the prophecy?

70wks for Daniel's people. Not all Daniel's people are written in the Book.

From Genesis 4:26 when men started calling on the name of the Lord until that time of Christ return when he plants His feet on the Mt of Olives and makes an end to all abominations that causes desolations or in another word the end of sin here on earth.

 

[Sinthesis]

Messiah is cut-off at the crucifixion which is the 69th week. God set aside the wrath that will come in the 70th week and revealed the revelation of the mystery to the apostle Paul and we will be in that gap until the rapture of the church and then God will pour out his wrath upon the earth.

The command to rebuild Jerusalem was in 457BC. Daniel 9:25 says it took 7 weeks (49 years) to rebuild. This brings us to 408BC.

Then Daniel says 62 weeks later (434 years) Messiah will arrive. This brings us to 27AD which is the end of week 69 and start of week 70. (408 – 343 = -26. Add 1 year for year “0” and you come to 27AD)

Then Daniel 9:26, 27 says Messiah is cut off and in the midst of week 70th Jesus shall confirm the covenant (grace) and that which is determined (judged) will be that of Gods judgment of those not found written in the Lamb’s book of life.. (31AD)

Are you now saying that Christ was crucified in 27AD?

 

[for_his_glory]

What gap? Where is there a gap? As it is, God has already poured out His wrath according to the vision of Daniel. His wrath was poured out upon the people and the city when it was destroyed in 70AD. I posted the verses earlier, and it seems like it was probably just ignored, but who knows, but you should really go back and read Matthew 22 and consider what is being told within the parable of the wedding feast, because it shows you the ministry of Jesus and his disciples, and the preaching of the gospel of the kingdom.

I think most things in the scripture have types and examples of previous events that we may draw on for our spiritual understanding.

We find our biggest example from which to draw from in the exodus from the land of Egypt. There the Lord delivered them from their oppressor, and brought them into the Desert where He told the children of Israel that He would write his laws in their hearts and in their minds, and they would be a holy nation, and a peculiar people. But the children of Israel rejected the Lord, and said let us not hear again your voice, lest we die. So they chose instead to listen to Moses, and thereby made their covenant with death. 40 years they wandered in the wilderness before they could enter the promised land, but before they could enter the promise land, that generation had to die. So God through the prophets prophesy of a new covenant, one in which the Lord promises that he will write his laws in our heart and in our minds, and that we should be a royal priesthood, and holy nation and a peculiar people, just as it was during the exodus. Jesus came declaring the kingdom of Heaven, the spiritual promise land, the forgiveness of sins and the Mercy of the Lord. He came and confirmed the new covenant, releasing them from their covenant with death and from their yoke of oppression.

So now lets pay attention to the parable of the marriage feast.

Matt 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. These servants that were sent out were Jesus and his Disciples, spreading the gospel of the Kingdom and the forgiveness of sins.

Matt 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. These other servant sent forth would have been after the crucifixion of Christ and would have included the likes of Stephen, Luke, Barnabas, Titus, Paul etc..

Matt 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. Our glaring example of this is the stoning of Stephen.

Matt 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. Here is the wrath promised as the prince who shall come. The Jews rejected the promises of the Lord a second time saying we have Moses. And they took and slew his servants, ie. the abomination that brings desolation, and judgement was brought upon them, and in 70AD the temple and the city were destroyed. See also Rev 6:9-11.

How many time did Jesus say this generation shall not pass till....? This Generation: the generation that heard the promises of Lord. The Generation that began when Jesus was baptized and He began preaching the gospel of the kingdom and confirming the covenant of Grace. If the ministry of Jesus began around 29AD or so, is it really so surprising to see that 40 years later judgement came upon that generation, and the city and the sanctuary laid waste.

Gods wrath has been upon his people from the beginning of Adam and will not end until the time of Christ return when Gods wrath will be poured out on all those who have rejected His son Jesus. Scripture never defines a seven year tribulation as it say we are in times of tribulation until the end of this age. Have you ever studied Matthew 24. The parable of the marriage feast is that of being prepared to be part of the Bride of Christ as our wedding garment is that of the indwelling of Gods Holy Spirit of being heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, Romans 8:17, that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.Again read Matthew 24 as generation is all generations as when Christ returns all things will then be fulfilled.

 

[Sinthesis]

God never declared an end to sin and the death of Christ on the cross was not for the end of sin, but was made a final offering for sin. I never said there was a 2000 year gap. I said from the 69th week that ended when Christ was made the final offering for sin until the times of the Gentiles to that time of Christ return is that of the 70th week as what the gap means is that length of time that no man can number for all things to be fulfilled as in that of Daniel 9:24.

1Co 15:55 - O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56 - The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1Co 15:57 - But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

With Jesus' resurrection He defeated sin and death. By Grace we share in that victory. Thus in, Christ, sin and death have come to an end.

 

[for_his_glory]

Are you now saying that Christ was crucified in 27AD?

Where in what I posted did I state Christ was crucified in 27AD? I said Messiah was cut off (killed) in the midst of the 70th week leaving a time frame within the 70 weeks that no man can count as no one, not even Jesus knows when he will return at the end of the 70th when everything of prophecy will be fulfilled.

 

[Sinthesis]

Messiah is cut-off at the crucifixion which is the 69th week. God set aside the wrath that will come in the 70th week and revealed the revelation of the mystery to the apostle Paul and we will be in that gap until the rapture of the church and then God will pour out his wrath upon the earth.

The command to rebuild Jerusalem was in 457BC. Daniel 9:25 says it took 7 weeks (49 years) to rebuild. This brings us to 408BC.

Then Daniel says 62 weeks later (434 years) Messiah will arrive. This brings us to 27AD which is the end of week 69 and start of week 70. (408 – 343 = -26. Add 1 year for year “0” and you come to 27AD)

Then Daniel 9:26, 27 says Messiah is cut off and in the midst of week 70th Jesus shall confirm the covenant (grace) and that which is determined (judged) will be that of Gods judgment of those not found written in the Lamb’s book of life.. (31AD)

There

 

[for_his_glory]

1Co 15:55 - O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1Co 15:56 - The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
1Co 15:57 - But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

With Jesus' resurrection He defeated sin and death. By Grace we share in that victory. Thus in, Christ, sin and death have come to an end.

Yes Jesus defeated sin and death at the cross as in God making a new covenant of grace that we now through the grace of God can be saved, but only to those who will endure all things until the end, Matthew 24:13 as Christ will confirm the covenant in His coming when those who have endured that have been saved by grace will meet Christ in the air and forever more be with the Father forever, Daniel 9:27.

 

[for_his_glory]

There

I said messiah will arrive in 27AD which is the end of the 69th week, which now starts the 70th with His arrival and finished when He returns again. Anything after Christ arrives is dated AD.