Defending the faith: A discussion of Catholic Doctrine

[donadams]

This is nothing but the doctrine of the Catholic denomination, but it clearly disagrees with what the Bible says.

You write "You cannot enter on you’re own or by “faith alone”! You cannot receive Christ or grace by “faith alone”!"

But the Bile says in Ephesians 2:8-9, " For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God— not the result of works, so that no one may boast."

If you don't agree with that then you disagree with God. Guess whom I believe?

And then you write this: “Accept Christ as you’re personal lord and savior” is fundamentalist tradition not found scripture! But the Bible says, “For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. “Indeed, God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world but in order that the world might be saved through him. Those who believe in him are not condemned, but those who do not believe are condemned already because they have not believed in the name of the only Son of God." John 3:16-18

If you don't agree with that then you disagree with God. Guess whom I believe?

You claim "The Christian sacrament of baptismal regeneration is required for the new covenant and salvation", but that is not what the Bible says. Baptism is a ritual statement of death and rebirth. "Therefore we were buried with him by baptism into death, so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we also might walk in newness of life." Romans 6:4

If water baptism accomplished salvation then everyone baptized by John would have been saved and would have had no need for a Savior. So again, your Catholic doctrine disagrees with the Bible. "No baptism no grace!" is nonsense.

And you quote 2 Corinthians 5:17 to justify baptism, "Baptismal regeneration a new creation in Christ! 2 Cor 5:17"
even though baptism isn't mentioned. "So if anyone is in Christ, there is a new creation: everything old has passed away; look, new things have come into being!" Why do you distort God's word???

"No baptism no grace!" is total nonsense. Read the quote from Ephesians again.

"Jn 3:5 Born again water and the spirit! Not by “faith alone”!" is also false. When you include the following verse, "by water" clearly means natural birth. "Jesus answered, “Very truly, I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit. What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit." Born of the flesh is not water baptism.

Look, I can go on with many more examples. Believe what you want, even if your doctrine -- actually your priests' doctrine -- disgrees with what the Bible clearly says in context. Just like the ancient Jews, your separate priesthood has come up with all kinds of unBiblical doctrine to keep you under their control. Those of us who have been born of the Spirit and can read God's written word directly (without intermediaries) know the truth. We believe GOD, not men.

There are no denominations in scripture only the one true church Matt 16:18 Matt 18:17 1 Tim 3:15 etc.
Jn 10:16

 

[donadams]

John 20:21 does not say the apostles send more apostles.
And the Act reference only shows the Disciples playing dice instead of waiting on Gods direction.

Really you think they acted wrongly or with the authority they received from Christ?
What about Peter’s sermon in acts 2? And
Acts 15:25

1. It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
2. Acts 15:28
   For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

Jn 20:21 the apostles are sent with the same power, mission, and authority as Christ, “as the father sent me so I send you” if Christ has authority to send apostles and they have the same authority why can’t they send apostles? Thanks

 

[Paul Timothy]

Really you think they acted wrongly or with the authority they received from Christ?
What about Peter’s sermon in acts 2? And
Acts 15:25

1. It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
2. Acts 15:28
   For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;

Jn 20:21 the apostles are sent with the same power, mission, and authority as Christ, “as the father sent me so I send you” if Christ has authority to send apostles and they have the same authority why can’t they send apostles? Thanks

I see you finally are getting to the point of asking interesting questions.
So... my church had the authority to send me on a missions trip... was I an Apostle?

 

[donadams]

The Bible says what it says. "By grace you have been saved" That is the Present Perfect Continuous tense that talks about action that started in the past and is continuing now. If you understood English verb tenses you would understand this.

Then you write "We are saved by grace, the grace received at baptism", even though the Bible disagrees with that untruth. Again, why weren't all those whom John baptized saved???

Of course, your mind set prevents you from accepting what the Bible clearly says. Instead you believe Catholic doctrine, even when it disagrees with the Bible.

Not John’s baptism of repentance that was only a preparation for the new covenant sacrament of baptismal regeneration and we have eternal life and grace but not saved until the end Matt 24:13
We must abide in Christ Jn 15:1-5

 

[donadams]

No Biblical references for this? Why can not anyone correct an apostle?
Have you defined what makes a person an apostle?

You keep saying that... what confession?
You are using these words but there is not intelligent meaning being conveyed.

And this verse does not say Peter was the only one prayed for.
If I say to my son "son I have prayed for you today" does that mean I did not also pray for my daughter?
Was Jesus only able to pray for a single person at a time?

If this is your beginning of your arguments... well the outlook is not very good.
Try to make single points... discuss... and then move on to larger topics.

In Lk 22:32 Jesus prays for Peter and Peter is commanded to strengthen the other apostles he has authority under Christ the king as prime minister (the one who holds the keys of the kingdom) over the apostles

Peter’s confession in Matt 16:17 many say it’s Peter’s confession that Christ builds his church but we say Peter’s person cos you can’t give the keys of jurisdictional authority to a confession.

 

[jaybo]

I did not say that
I said the doctrine of the “Bible alone “

Bible yes with the authentic interpretation of the teaching authority of christ
Bible alone, free for all every man for himself no! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3

Teaching authority of the Apostles and their successors founded in the one true church by Jesus Christ!

Jesus Christ is the head of the church, (eph 5:23) the body of Christ,
(col 1:18) the new and eternal covenant, (pre-figured Jer 31:31) (Heb 8:8) new covenant replaces the Mosaic covenant, (Heb 8:13) holy mother church replaced Israel Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Christ replaces David as king, (Lk 1:32-33) Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and men, (1 Tim 2:5 & Heb 12:24) but a mediator remains on earth mediating between God and His people, but Christ ascended to heaven, (acts 1) before He did He founded His church, on Peter, and the apostles, and their successors!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 2:42 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

Apostolic succession: apostles must remain till Christ returns Matt 28:19-20



Authority of the Apostles!

What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?

Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission!

Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!

John 17:18
As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

The apostles are Christ’s successors!
They have authority to send others as well until Christ returns in glory!

apostle means one who is sent!

Therefore the apostles have authority to send more apostles or successors!

Apostolic succession!

The nations still need to be taught, disciples still need to be baptized and the church the new covenant kingdom of christ still needs to be governed!

Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;

Christ is an apostle, and has authority to send other apostles, the apostles also have this authority, so the apostles continue down thru the centuries as Christ promised! Matt 28:19-20

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18 matt 28:19 Isa 22:21-22

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors, and Interpreting scripture.

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments for the forgiveness of sin.

You can write complete books about Catholic doctrine, but I believe God's word, the Bible. You believe the teachings of men, i.e., a separate priesthood similar to that of the Old Testament, but only the Bible is 100% true. Numbers 23:19, "God is not a human being, that he should lie, or a mortal, that he should change his mind."

And never forget that the man you claim was the first Pope was called "Satan" by Jesus Himself.

You can claim all kinds of authority, but even now, where I live, the diocese had to pay $121,000,000 for the sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests.

 

[Paul Timothy]

In Lk 22:32 Jesus prays for Peter and Peter is commanded to strengthen the other apostles he has authority under Christ the king as prime minister (the one who holds the keys of the kingdom) over the apostles

I don't remember the words Prime Minister in the Bible in relation to Peter.
And you are misrepresenting the passage.
The passage is not Jesus praying for Peter.
The passage is Jesus saying to Peter that Jesus had prayed for Peter.
You may not understand the difference... but it is very different.

Peter’s confession in Matt 16:17 many say it’s Peter’s confession that Christ builds his church but we say Peter’s person cos you can’t give the keys of jurisdictional authority to a confession.

I don't say it is Peters confession... I call it Matthew 16:17.
Also in Matt 16:19-20 Jesus could easily be speaking to all the Disciples.
I don't see why Peter is being sectioned out as some special case.

 

[RudolfRed]

Really? Even though Protestants agree on somewhere near 75 percent of catholic dogma ?

Can you be saved without a priest?
Thanks

Please explain Matt 17:24-27?

That isn't the least bit true at all. Protestants and Roman Catholics do not agree on 75% of their Dogma at all.

And lest we forget, Protestants are not perfect either, and have never been perfect at all. Martin Luther started out to Protest Abuses as he saw them in the R.C.C., and thus that is how the Protestant Reformation got it's name, from it's initial start as a protest against R.C.C. corruption and abuses. And as a result, Martin Luther became the accidental symbolic father of the Reformation, when he was merely it's initial spark.

I don't like Martin Luther, and never will. Personally I think he was an idiot. But hey, for all his education, he was initially raised as a Roman Catholic, so I shouldn't have expected much more from him. For when he finally became the Protestant he became, riding the wave of the protest he started, he came to such crazy conclusions, such as rejecting the Book Of Revelation, because he couldn't see Jesus in it because of it's judgements? Really? the book screams of Jesus from end to end, but I guess Luther was some snowflake pacifist, who could not see that God has the right to eventually Judge people and or the world? etc.., So I personally, for all of his education, think Luther was nuts.

And I could go on. But lets skip personalities, and go right to the heart of the matter. Very quickly the Pope, in due time,

in very short order Excommunicated All of the Protestants!

He Excommunicated them all.

And the Protestants likewise in short order returned the favor.

The Protestants declared the Pope the Antichrist. And not the Final Antichrist yet, but the succession of them, quoting John, in writing there would be many antichrists.

It was an all out war to the death, where kings and queens and kingdoms tried to kill each other over it. In England, and King Henry VIII was nuts, and his children were real pieces of works as well. And so his two daughters Elizabeth, and Mary respectively, when they had chances to succeed each other, as Elizabeth was Protestant, and Mary Catholic, took turns in buring the other sides peeps at the stake.

Catholic Spain tried to destroy Henry's England, and sent an entire Spanish Armada to destroy England, but the Spanish Armada got destroyed instead.

So the Reformation was really more of a war, and a real hot mess over time. And the R.C.C. eventually created a Counter Reformation where they sent the Jesuits into several countries for a great deal of subterfuge and sabotage internally within those nations, who came to feel they were so bad, that a great many nations felt like the Jesuits were like an Illuminati, or somesuch.

And when the dust eventually settled, I don't think both sides should have reconciled. The whole burning everyone else at the stake was a bit much. It was very wrong indeed. But we can't settle our differences at all. This current air where both sides grow closer and closer, is very evil indeed, as the world seems to head towards a one world great apostacy of falsely alleged mutual worship and interests.

But as any student of history also knows, the best lies are built upon at least some truths. The Devil has always been a very clever liar in the Garden of Eden, to the tempting of Christ. But Jesus, as God in the form of the Son, would have none of that, and none of Satan misquoting either scripture, or authority. Satan may indeed have had authority over the kingdoms of the world at the time, but Jesus thru his faithfulness, and obedience to the truth, has the ultimate authority over the ony kingdom that matterts.

So no, I for one, will never reconcile with the Cult of Rome, and would be more than happy to go thru their blasphemies, one by one

 

[jaybo]

Not John’s baptism of repentance that was only a preparation for the new covenant sacrament of baptismal regeneration and we have eternal life and grace but not saved until the end Matt 24:13
We must abide in Christ Jn 15:1-5

LOL!!! Try reading your Bible instead of listening to your fallible priests. John 6:39-40, "And this is the will of him who sent me, that I [Jesus] should lose nothing of all that he has given me but raise it up on the last day. This is indeed the will of my Father, that all who see the Son and believe in him may have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day.” So, why do you not believe what Jesus said?

 

[RudolfRed]

Can you be saved without a priest?
Thanks

Yes, that's absolutely nuts, and 100% certifiable to think one needs a priest to be saved.

And please don't take our arguing personally. I'm a bit nuts. Maybe not a porkchop short of a mixed grill, but nuts just the same, and can get a bit crazy, like that puppy that gets his bone, and goes bonkers

 

[jaybo]

I have participated in many discussions about the beliefs of Catholics and
frankly, have been very distressed about their unScriptural beliefs.

The Bible in general, and the New Testament in particular, are about God's
interactions with people and His covenants with them, resulting in the New
Covenant which was instituted by Jesus Christ and put into effect by His one-
time sacrifice for all sin.

After this sacrificial act, God formed a new people: the body of Christ. The
beginnings of this formation are written about in the epistles, which also serve
to formulate a new doctrine for all to believe and follow. From Acts onward we
have the story of the New Covenant.

Instead of discussing the formulation of a new people in Christ and the terms of
the New Covenant, Catholics go into "la-la land". They focus on the
following...

1) "Ever virgin" Mary. Even though Scripture says in several places that Jesus
had brothers, they come up with all kinds of rationalizations to claim just the
opposite. For some reason, the idea that Mary was a normal woman who had
intercourse with her husband is abhorrent to them. Citing the woman in Genesis,
a single word in Isaiah (which refers to a young woman with implied virginity)
and the fact that Jesus' brothers are named, they exalt Mary to a state of
purity that has no Scriptural basis. And Joseph waited to have intercourse with
Mary only until after Jesus was born.

2) They cite Peter, a.k.a. Cephas, as the rock on which the church (actually
their denomination) is built. They willfully ignore that shortly after Jesus
said "on this rock I will build my church", Jesus called Peter "Satan". (He
never called any other person "Satan".) Peter denied Jesus three times when He
was arrested, and used violence against another person, using his sword to cut
the ear off the high priest's servant. Catholics claim him as their first Pope
-- an unScriptural term -- even though Paul described him as the apostle to the
uncircumcised (only) in Galatians. Paul also reprimanded him for his
hypocritical behavior when other Jews arrived in Galatia.

3) They claim that the Pope is the leader of the church, even though the word
"Pope" is not mentioned anywhere in Scripture. (They make the doubly-false claim
that Peter/Cephas was the first Pope.)

4) They ignore the abhorrent, UNCHRISTIAN history of their denomination,
including the crusades, the inquisitions, the murder of innocent people who
refused to succumb to their conquests, the murders, tortures, excommunications,
and other heinous acts against non-Catholics, etc.

5) Finally, and worst of all, they depict Jesus as => DEAD on the cross <= Every
single crucifix and picture of the Lord they have shows him as a dead
European!!! By so doing, they visually deny that He died, was buried, AND WAS
RESURRECTED TO THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD!!!

In summary, the Catholic denomination has discarded the fundamental truths and
doctrines of the Bible in favor of a bizarre mythology invented by their clergy!

1) They focus on Mary instead of Christ. They even pray to her!!!
2) They focus on Peter, denying the truth of the gospels.
3) They invent an unScriptural clergy and believe the lies that clergy tells
them.
4) They have committed unspeakbale atrocities against non-Catholics, and
recently, sexually abusing children
5) They visually deny the resurrection of Christ, then claim that He actually
exists in the form of crackers and wine!

 

[RudolfRed]

Please explain Matt 17:24-27?

There is nothing to explain? Your point please? What does Matt 17:24-27 have to do with the debate between Protestants and Roman Catholics? So unless I'm missing something, that question has no relevance at all, unless you're suggesting that because Jesus told Peter to pay the tax on behalf of the both of them, that that somehow suggests that Jesus was elevating the status of Peter as a result? LOLOL Sorry, I couldn't help getting a little snarky / and sarcastic, but still don't understanding what you are asking?

 

[GodsGrace]

That isn't the least bit true at all. Protestants and Roman Catholics do not agree on 75% of their Dogma at all.

And lest we forget, Protestants are not perfect either, and have never been perfect at all. Martin Luther started out to Protest Abuses as he saw them in the R.C.C., and thus that is how the Protestant Reformation got it's name, from it's initial start as a protest against R.C.C. corruption and abuses. And as a result, Martin Luther became the accidental symbolic father of the Reformation, when he was merely it's initial spark.

I don't like Martin Luther, and never will. Personally I think he was an idiot. But hey, for all his education, he was initially raised as a Roman Catholic, so I shouldn't have expected much more from him. For when he finally became the Protestant he became, riding the wave of the protest he started, he came to such crazy conclusions, such as rejecting the Book Of Revelation, because he couldn't see Jesus in it because of it's judgements? Really? the book screams of Jesus from end to end, but I guess Luther was some snowflake pacifist, who could not see that God has the right to eventually Judge people and or the world? etc.., So I personally, for all of his education, think Luther was nuts.

And I could go on. But lets skip personalities, and go right to the heart of the matter. Very quickly the Pope, in due time,

in very short order Excommunicated All of the Protestants!

He Excommunicated them all.

And the Protestants likewise in short order returned the favor.

The Protestants declared the Pope the Antichrist. And not the Final Antichrist yet, but the succession of them, quoting John, in writing there would be many antichrists.

It was an all out war to the death, where kings and queens and kingdoms tried to kill each other over it. In England, and King Henry VIII was nuts, and his children were real pieces of works as well. And so his two daughters Elizabeth, and Mary respectively, when they had chances to succeed each other, as Elizabeth was Protestant, and Mary Catholic, took turns in buring the other sides peeps at the stake.

Catholic Spain tried to destroy Henry's England, and sent an entire Spanish Armada to destroy England, but the Spanish Armada got destroyed instead.

So the Reformation was really more of a war, and a real hot mess over time. And the R.C.C. eventually created a Counter Reformation where they sent the Jesuits into several countries for a great deal of subterfuge and sabotage internally within those nations, who came to feel they were so bad, that a great many nations felt like the Jesuits were like an Illuminati, or somesuch.

And when the dust eventually settled, I don't think both sides should have reconciled. The whole burning everyone else at the stake was a bit much. It was very wrong indeed. But we can't settle our differences at all. This current air where both sides grow closer and closer, is very evil indeed, as the world seems to head towards a one world great apostacy of falsely alleged mutual worship and interests.

But as any student of history also knows, the best lies are built upon at least some truths. The Devil has always been a very clever liar in the Garden of Eden, to the tempting of Christ. But Jesus, as God in the form of the Son, would have none of that, and none of Satan misquoting either scripture, or authority. Satan may indeed have had authority over the kingdoms of the world at the time, but Jesus thru his faithfulness, and obedience to the truth, has the ultimate authority over the ony kingdom that matterts.

So no, I for one, will never reconcile with the Cult of Rome, and would be more than happy to go thru their blasphemies, one by one

Hi Rudolfred
Welcome back to the forum.

I noticed that you use different colors when posting. Please don't use the color red since it's the color staff uses for important warnings.

It's appreciated!

Happy posting and blessings.

 

[RudolfRed]

Hi Rudolfred
Welcome back to the forum.

I noticed that you use different colors when posting. Please don't use the color red since it's the color staff uses for important warnings.

It's appreciated!

Happy posting and blessings.

Hey, and thank you. Just the brown red that I like, or all of the reds? And did I scare anyone with my use of red so far, Bwahahahaha :P ?

Thanks again

( I've never been called out by the color police before :/ )

God Bless

 

[Randy]

Not without the sacraments

Ez 36:25-27

25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

I wasn't saved by sacraments but by grace through faith in Christ. And the sign that you are in the faith, belong to Christ and one who God calls His children is Christ in us. If that Spirit isn't in you I don't care how many sacraments you follow you don't belong to Christ and are not in the faith Paul spoke of. Washed and sanctified by the inward dwelling of the Spirit of Christ. A personal relationship with God. A child of God. Oneness with Christ.
Those who belong to God hear what God says. Jesus informed those who didn't believe in Him was because they didn't belong to God.

Not by sacraments but by Gods Spirit one comes to Christ.

It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me.
“I have revealed you a to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. 7Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. 9I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. 11I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of b your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. 12While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by c that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.

My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

 

[GodsGrace]

Hey, and thank you. Just the brown red that I like, or all of the reds?

LOL
I did notice your name before writing.
I had to think about it a bit before writing to you.
Yes. It's too important. Sorry. : (

And did I scare anyone with my use of red so far, Bwahahahaha :tongue ?

I'll bet you did!

Thanks again

( I've never been called out by the color police before :/ )

God Bless

Hey hey,
I'm not the police!
Just a sister in the Lord trying to keep the peace around here so we could have a pleasant site where we could discuss with love and respect.
This is our aim.

 

[Randy]

As God wills, but they are devoid of grace and He said heaven is closed without the grace of baptismal regeneration Jn 3:5

Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God

We hope in the mercy of God

Its a no brainer to know Jesus, who judgments by His righteousness, will welcome the souls of innocent infants who pass into heaven. He has that authority.

 

[Randy]

He is an apostle by the will of Christ not by acts 1

Yes and to sit on one of twelve thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel is not for man to give. Paul was set aside from birth. That one other I repeat "1" other had all ready been chosen by God. The Apostles weren't aware of it at that time and didn't wait for a answer of their prayer. They prayed and immediately cast lots for one of "their" two chosen candidates. For a office that exists beyond the life of the body. Sitting on a throne of judgment. 12 foundations of the new Jerusalem with their names written on them.

concerning Judas who betrayed and abandoned his office.
For,” said Peter, “it is written in the Book of Psalms:

“‘May his place be deserted;
let there be no one to dwell in it,’
and,

“‘May another take his place of leadership.

 

[Randy]

Yes, that's absolutely nuts, and 100% certifiable to think one needs a priest to be saved.

And please don't take our arguing personally. I'm a bit nuts. Maybe not a porkchop short of a mixed grill, but nuts just the same, and can get a bit crazy, like that puppy that gets his bone, and goes bonkers

Its his trick question as Jesus was appointed a Priest forever by Gods decree.

 

[jasonc]

LOL
I did notice your name before writing.
I had to think about it a bit before writing to you.
Yes. It's too important. Sorry. : (



I'll bet you did!


Hey hey,
I'm not the police!
Just a sister in the Lord trying to keep the peace around here so we could have a pleasant site where we could discuss with love and respect.
This is our aim.

Das polazai ,lol