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Defending the faith: A discussion of Catholic Doctrine

Isn't Christ and the forgiveness of sins received? And can they know and believe in that unless that new message of life is explained to them? This was the 1st century world. Wouldn't it be both shown? As those who didn't believe were not baptized.

What is not negotiable to you in regard to true salvation is water baptism. What is not negotiable to me is faith in and obedience to Christ Jesus.
Yes absolute requirement of the new covenant
Faith and baptism
 
There's not alot of disagreement in this but according to Jesus no one comes to Him unless enabled by the Father. And those who belong to God hear what God states. Jesus informed those that didn't believe in Him was because they didn't belong to God.

I believe the NT is the teaching given from one Shepard. Warning bells go off in anything in addition to them. Not just meaning Catholics. I care not who claims authority to add to them as truth. So in some cases such a church may not be considered a pillar of truth.
The apostles are shepherds acting in the person of Christ
The church of the apostles is an extension of Christ to all men and nations Matt 28:19 acts 1:8
 
Please quote where the verse says John or apostle.
Jn 19:26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

The disciple he loved refers to John the apostle

John the apostle took Her into his house
 
I'm not aware of any scripture which says that. What scripture do you have in mind?
John apostle the beloved disciple

Jn 21:7 Therefore that disciple whom Jesus loved saith unto Peter, It is the Lord.

24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.

John the beloved disciple wrote it!
 
Their in heaven. We have their testimony.
Read carefully Jesus to his apostles “behold I’m with to the end of the world Matt 28:19
To the ends of the earth acts 1:8
Successors are implied
 
Read carefully Jesus to his apostles “behold I’m with to the end of the world Matt 28:19
To the ends of the earth acts 1:8
Successors are implied
I have the Spirit of Christ in me. I hope you do as well.
I'm nobody but He certainly has made Himself known to me. As I have stated HE LIVES!
Fellowship
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.
 
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Read carefully Jesus to his apostles “behold I’m with to the end of the world Matt 28:19
To the ends of the earth acts 1:8
Successors are implied

Read carefully what the apostle John has stated.


But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him. 1 John 2:27


Do you believe the apostle John?


There are many apostles that claim to be apostles but like Jesus said, they have been tested and found to be liars.


And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars; Revelation 2:2


Any person claiming to be an apostle that doesn’t live by and teach the words of Jesus Christ, given to us in scripture, are liars.


Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 9


Followers of Christ, Christians don’t follow creeds, catachesims, or commentary, they follow Jesus Christ and His teachings as written in scripture.







JLB
 
I have the Spirit of Christ in me. I hope you do as well.
I'm nobody but He certainly has made Himself known to me. As I have stated HE LIVES!
Fellowship
Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.
Yes but we must submit to and obey the authorized ministers of Christ
Fidelity to them is fidelity to christ
Christ and his church are one acts 9:4 eph 5:32
 
Read carefully what the apostle John has stated.


But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide in Him. 1 John 2:27


Do you believe the apostle John?


There are many apostles that claim to be apostles but like Jesus said, they have been tested and found to be liars.


And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars; Revelation 2:2


Any person claiming to be an apostle that doesn’t live by and teach the words of Jesus Christ, given to us in scripture, are liars.


Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 9


Followers of Christ, Christians don’t follow creeds, catachesims, or commentary, they follow Jesus Christ and His teachings as written in scripture.







JLB
In other words if I have the anointing I can do whatever I please and believe whatever I want
Total spiritual anarchy
 
Eph 4:5 one baptism
The Christian sacrament of baptism

Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. Hebrews 6:1


There are three distinct baptisms with three distinct baptizers.


And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” Acts 1:4-5


  • John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.



JLB
 
Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. Hebrews 6:1


There are three distinct baptisms with three distinct baptizers.


And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” Acts 1:4-5


  • John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.



JLB
JTB was only for repentance and preparation for the coming of Christ and his grace of the sacrament of baptism
Why send JTB with baptism to prepare for the preaching of faith alone?
Jn 3:22 they went and baptized!
 
Yes but we must submit to and obey the authorized ministers of Christ
Fidelity to them is fidelity to christ
Christ and his church are one acts 9:4 eph 5:32
My answer was in context of Christ being with us even to the end of the age.

I can be respectful to such leaders but Christianity or the body of Christ is not a theocracy under a High Priest on earth. Rather we better explain the absence of a High Priest on earth than those who worship in the synagogue teach. Not meaning Messianic. Protestants have no vicar of Christ. We follow the Apostolic teaching that was written in the NT alone. It is that testimony that is taught and preached. Local congregations usually submit to their Pastors and I know of Pastors who state the power is usually found in the church board not themselves.
 
My answer was in context of Christ being with us even to the end of the age.

I can be respectful to such leaders but Christianity or the body of Christ is not a theocracy under a High Priest on earth. Rather we better explain the absence of a High Priest on earth than those who worship in the synagogue teach. Not meaning Messianic. Protestants have no vicar of Christ. We follow the Apostolic teaching that was written in the NT alone. It is that testimony that is taught and preached. Local congregations usually submit to their Pastors and I know of Pastors who state the power is usually found in the church board not themselves.
Matt 16:18 keys jurisdictional authority to govern the church

Jesus even works a miracle to show this Matt 17:27
 
Matt 16:18 keys jurisdictional authority to govern the church

Jesus even works a miracle to show this Matt 17:27
That context is debatable, but Peter is in heaven as I believe.

And clearly Paul was sent to the gentiles. He is in heaven as I believe.
 
In other words if I have the anointing I can do whatever I please and believe whatever I want
Total spiritual anarchy
You are not free to sin.
We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person. 5 But if anyone obeys his word, love for God[a] is truly made complete in them. This is how we know we are in him: 6 Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did.

Love fulfills Gods moral law.
Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not covet,” and whatever other command there may be, are summed up in this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[b] 10 Love does no harm to a neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
 
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