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Did Jesus take on the sins of the whole world?

Re: People who die having not heard of Christ in last 2000 years
If there heart is right they will notbgo to hell.

The bible says no ones heart is right so the statement is irrelevant. Romans 3:11-12; Romans 11:32


Now a days people who have never heard will have dreams and visions.
Possibly ... very rare. I don't want to address rare exceptions and scripture doesn't address them so the evidence is not substantial. Aside: I think it occurs, but rarely.

The bible says that if you seek him you will find him.
Agreed. The bible also says NO ONE SEEKS GOD. Rom 3:11 ... therefore the verse is of not practical use.
Aside: It is God that seeks some people analogous to a shepherd seeking lost sheep; the sheep do not seek the shepherd; none of His sheep remain lost (John 6:39)


He gives everyone am opportunity.
I've given irrefutable evidence to the contrary. https://www.christiantoday.com/arti...lion.who.have.never.heard.of.jesus/136398.htm
...unless you are teaching another gospel of salvation for those who never hear of Christ.

Go on youbtube and type, an amazing counter with jesus." This is the type of stuff I an talking about. Watch the whole thing. I hope it is still there. It should be. I didn't have issues watching it.
I agree that I believe this happens to a VERY SMALL percentage of people ... for billions of others it does not happen.
 
Google "how many people have never heard of jesus" ... one site says 3 billion. You should do research instead of blind assumptions.
I said I wouldn't comment further ... so I reneged by replying... sorry
Do they say who those people are? Nothing is hidden from the Lord so no worries.

Whose right? - very general how was it measured?
Estimates say that over a billion people in the world today have little to no knowledge of Jesus, little to no knowledge of the gospel, and little to no chance of hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ before they die. It begs the question, then: What happens to them when they die? This is a deeply theological question.
 
What happens to them when they die?
Already answered. John 3:18 says without knowledge of Christ you go to hell. We been there, done that.
If you've got another gospel to get people to heaven without faith in Christ .... spit out the scriptural evidence ... otherwise, we've said our peace.
 
Also, when the Bible talks about our Lord bearing the sins of the world, it makes sense to see it as talking about sins common among all of humanity.
Wrongful hatred, jealousy, etc. are sins we've all committed and our Savior endured those sins. So Paul says,

Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. Rom.2:1

and why James said,

Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another? Jas.4:11-12

And Paul says.

Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. 2Cor.5:20

In Christs' stead, as though God was pleading with sinners. Acts tells us how Jesus' disciples were persecuted and killed for him. They fully understood how Jesus bore the sins of mankind.
 
Already answered. John 3:18 says without knowledge of Christ you go to hell. We been there, done that.
If you've got another gospel to get people to heaven without faith in Christ .... spit out the scriptural evidence ... otherwise, we've said our peace.
"he who does not believe" is not the same context.
 
There under God's covenant he promised to Abraham and David. Yes, look up the video before they take it down. I gave Jesus my heart so I am no longer overruled by it, but it is under God's authority.
 
Whe God repeats himself through scripture about him hardening their hearts, he isn't talking about a physical heart.
 
Do they say who those people are? Nothing is hidden from the Lord so no worries.

Whose right? - very general how was it measured?
Estimates say that over a billion people in the world today have little to no knowledge of Jesus, little to no knowledge of the gospel, and little to no chance of hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ before they die. It begs the question, then: What happens to them when they die? This is a deeply theological question.
They are under abraham and David's covenant promises
 
First of all I don't believe any in this day and age has not heard of Jesus and we preach to the living not the dead. Any preaching on the other side is of the Lord Himself.
In regard to wicked Joe he would come before Jesus and He will make a judgment concerning Him. What about Alice who never heard of Jesus neither directly or from others and she was a sweet and kind always helping the less fortunate. Does Alice deserve eternal judgment?

Yes God is just. Jesus went and preached to the spirits in prison so that though judged according to the flesh as judgement for wickedness they might live according to the spirit.
Everybody is dead, not living, how can anyone be living without Jesus in them, who is life. ( John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.)

There is no wisdom/knowledge, nor understanding, in the grave, nor against the Lord, because all who reason against the Lord, are dead, the same as those in the grave are dead.



Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

Proverbs 21:30 There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the Lord.




Jesus went to the dead, on earth, ( dead in sins/darkness) and to the grave, where all men go, to show the new living way we can go, so all who follow Jesus go to life, ( as He rose to life eternal.) all who do not follow, are still on the path to death. ( in darkness.)


Hebrews 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

1 John 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.



Does anyone who cannot speak truly for Jesus, not deserve the punishment they are already in, which is their self chosen, self belief, self glory, self deceiving, self darkness, self death.

Jesus alone is the one who glorifies the Father, lays HIs life down, which also is light, atoning and redeeming sacrifice, overcoming of this world/the devil, who then deserves good, to deny all of that and consider they did well without Him ? Through Jesus overcoming, is how we overcome, nobody else is worth a thought. ( no man is worthy.)



Revelation 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.




The way I know every creature under heaven has heard of Jesus Christ, ( preached to every creature. Colossians 1:23.) is because the whole world is deceived by satan, so satan knows who are his, and I know by that too. The Lord knows those who are HIs, and it is simple to know who they are, it is all who are not satans, right now.




The Shepherd knows His sheep, He must bring them, so we know He does/has.



John 10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.




The Gospel is hid to those who are lost. Not hidden to those who are found, ( by the Shepherd)

The whole world is deceived by the devil, blinded, non believing.

The whole theological discussions, are for no purpose, it is only by people who are deceived. ( the whole world.)



2 Corinthians 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
 
They are under abraham and David's covenant promises
God's promises were to Abrahams offspring as reckoned through Jacob. Setting that aside how is that promise fulfilled?

If you belong to Jesus then you are the seed of Abraham and heirs according to the promise.

In the 1st century the world outside of Israel lived in unrestrained sin in darkness and ignorance with many false Gods apart from the promises and covenant with the only living God. For the most part God left their sins beforehand unpunished. With the light of the gospel message comes including those peoples through Christ into Gods covenant promises. They also through Christ would be those God calls His children and heirs. Also the "wrath" of God is included in the gospel message as God is no longer allowing "unrestrained" sin to continue without accountability. Those who refuse Gods salvation will perish in "their own" sin. Keep in mind the 1st convent also had curses and blessings in regard to obedience and disobedience. God brought blessings and calamity accordingly.

Accountability to all nations.
“Here is my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen one in whom I delight; I will put my Spirit on him, and he will bring justice to the nations.

I have never met anyone who has not heard of Jesus and there are churches and missionaries in even the remotest parts of the world. That said even if there are a few who have not directly heard or heard from others anything in regard to Jesus I still don't state they are redeemed nor do I state they are condemned but that they would come before the one who judges and Jesus will make a judgment concerning them. I also add "nothing" is hidden from Him.

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

Jesus=>
Those who listen and learn from the Father come to me.
 
John 3:18 Whoever believes and has decided to trust in Him [as personal Savior and Lord] is not judged [for this one, there is no judgment, no rejection, no condemnation]; but the one who does not believe [and has decided to reject Him as personal Savior and Lord] is judged already [that one has been convicted and sentenced], because he has not believed and trusted in the name of the [One and] only begotten Son of God [the One who is truly unique, the only One of His kind, the One who alone can save him]. AMP
Premise 1: one must believe and trust in only begotten son to be saved or he will be judged (John 3:18)
Premise 2: People can't believe and trust in the Son of God if they have no knowledge of same
Conclusion: Those that have not heard of Jesus and die are in Hell
There is condemnation for all who choose/remain in darkness, because light came into the world, and darkness is what everyone has, who has not got light.

The judgement is that all are dead, without life in them, ( and light) and the darkness that is already in man, is all that is taken to eternal darkness.


All must believe in Christ, or all will be judged for not believing in light. ( God is light and in Him is no darkness.)



The knowledge man has has no value for escaping of the grave. Light and life escape the grave.



Those who have not heard of Jesus, have no need of light, have their light as sparks, as satan as an angel of light/lightening, hate the light, and do not come to the light.
 
In the 1st century the world outside of Israel lived in unrestrained sin in darkness and ignorance with many false Gods apart from the promises and covenant with the only living God. For the most part God left their sins beforehand unpunished. With the light of the gospel message comes including those peoples through Christ into Gods covenant promises. They also through Christ would be those God calls His children and heirs. Also the "wrath" of God is included in the gospel message as God is no longer allowing "unrestrained" sin to continue without accountability. Those who refuse Gods salvation will perish in "their own" sin. Keep in mind the 1st convent also had curses and blessings in regard to obedience and disobedience. God brought blessings and calamity accordingly.
From the beginning all lived in darkness, until the light shined in darkness.

Sins were always punished,with death, all die in sin.


Light was always from the beginning. ( Genesis 1:3.)


Christ is of the seed of Abraham, and is the fulfilment of the promise made to Abraham, for all nations to be blessed in him.

The wrath of God began with the flood, and continued in examples such as Sodom, Israel in the wilderness, Israel exiled into Babylon.

Those who do not believe in the light always being, and that same light shone into our hearts, will only speak of accountability, and not of the benefit of seeing light, which is the Holy Ghost, and the love of Christ to lay His life down for us.



There was no blessing until Christ, as all blessings ended in death, only in Christ are all made alive.




Psalm 133:3 As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the Lord commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
 
I have never met anyone who has not heard of Jesus and there are churches and missionaries in even the remotest parts of the world. That said even if there are a few who have not directly heard or heard from others anything in regard to Jesus I still don't state they are redeemed nor do I state they are condemned but that they would come before the one who judges and Jesus will make a judgment concerning them. I also add "nothing" is hidden from Him.

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it.

Jesus=>
Those who listen and learn from the Father come to me.
Everybody in darkness, has not heard of Jesus in their heart. It makes no difference to hear in any other way.


The Gospel is peached, because light has come, and light is rejected by all who are in darkness.

Satan is the ruler of this world who has everybody already in darkness, and satan deceives everybody now to believe that dark reasoning, is better than light.



Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
 
If darkness has a conversation, it is limited to not have ability to have any light in it, at all.

Will nobody calm themselves for a moment ever, to realise all their theological discussion, is more of the same darkness that has gone on, and why it went on, which pleases satan, for the wise in this world to be fools for the next. ( death)
 
I'm a Baptist; So if I could have some Baptist answers I'd appreciate it.

So my question is did Jesus die for the sins of the Gentiles are they considered part of the "world"

I know that God told Peter what God had made clean let no man call unclean.

But what scriptures can I refer to that prove He died for the Gentiles as part of the whole world.

If the Gentiles were never under the law then how are they freed from the law they were never under?

But if by freeing the Jews under their contract or Covenant through His death so that He can be Lord of all through the Spirit what did that look like in scripture.

With that said what did His death mean for the Gentiles and How?

It seems so that He could marry another.

So what does it mean That God loved the World?
"World"
Every single human can be redeemed through the sacrifice of Jesus. But it is pointed out that many will not choose to accept it. Mat 7:13,14
 
Everybody in darkness, has not heard of Jesus in their heart. It makes no difference to hear in any other way.


The Gospel is peached, because light has come, and light is rejected by all who are in darkness.

Satan is the ruler of this world who has everybody already in darkness, and satan deceives everybody now to believe that dark reasoning, is better than light.



Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Thanks for pointing our that the Gospel is being preached Gordon, so God is fulfilling His part, why do you suppose so many reject it?
 
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