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Dorothy Mae said:
What is the difference? A script is dialogue that is written down. What is the difference between writings or scripture?
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To the Islamic faith... the Quran is Scripture and the Hadith are writings.
Understand?
For a Christian... you would consider the Bible scripture... but Vines Expository would be considered a writing.
 
dwb001 said:
To the Islamic faith... the Quran is Scripture and the Hadith are writings.
Understand?
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This is a christian discussion site. What Muslins or Hindus believe plays no role here. Having said that, it doesn’t take 1 minute to know the Father of Jesus the Christ did not inspire the Koran. Scripture is writings but not all writings are inspired.
dwb001 said:
For a Christian... you would consider the Bible scripture... but Vines Expository would be considered a writing.
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I would consider what the author of Vines Expository says of itself. That would be me view.

As it is, it’s pretty easy for the mature to discern between words inspired of God and words not. It’s actually like night and day. For the immature, I admit, it’s pretty difficult. Even many who consider themselves mature cannot tell the difference.
 
Dorothy Mae said:
This is a christian discussion site. What Muslins or Hindus believe plays no role here. Having said that, it doesn’t take 1 minute to know the Father of Jesus the Christ did not inspire the Koran. Scripture is writings but not all writings are inspired.

I would consider what the author of Vines Expository says of itself. That would be me view.

As it is, it’s pretty easy for the mature to discern between words inspired of God and words not. It’s actually like night and day. For the immature, I admit, it’s pretty difficult. Even many who consider themselves mature cannot tell the difference.
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Ok so not Vines... how about the Apocrypha or Pseudepigrapha?
 
dwb001 said:
Well... Christians cant even decide how many books are in the Bible... So how many books that claim to be part of the Bible are scripture? Is the Gospel of Thomas scripture?
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The Canon was agreed upon centuries ago so that’s not true. I’ve read sone of those pieces and it’s pretty easy to see they’re not inspired. But they’re not destroyed. But all christian’s of any degree of knowledge know that is not inspired (scripture.) You’re raising a “problem” solved in the first millennium. Time for an update.
 
Dorothy Mae said:
The Canon was agreed upon centuries ago so that’s not true. I’ve read sone of those pieces and it’s pretty easy to see they’re not inspired. But they’re not destroyed. But all christian’s of any degree of knowledge know that is not inspired (scripture.) You’re raising a “problem” solved in the first millennium. Time for an update.
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Canon was agreed upon... but not settled. There are many Bibles out there with various number of books in them. To this day.

And your feelings determine inspiration of the Holy Spirit?

What problem am I raising? I think maybe you should ask some questions before deciding something about another,
 
dwb001 said:
Canon was agreed upon... but not settled.
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Of course it was settled. It’s not a discussion and hadn’t been for centuries. Where do you see this as a church discussion?
dwb001 said:
There are many Bibles out there with various number of books in them. To this day.
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Well there are the texts available but they’re not part of bibles. You can read them but anyone with any degree of understanding sees quickly they are different to the point of wierd.
dwb001 said:
And your feelings determine inspiration of the Holy Spirit?
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It’s called knowledge and discernment. Some take only a little bit of brains.
dwb001 said:
What problem am I raising? I think maybe you should ask some questions before deciding something about another,
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You think there are various bibles with various books in them. This just isn’t so.
 
Dorothy Mae said:
Of course it was settled. It’s not a discussion and hadn’t been for centuries. Where do you see this as a church discussion?
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Not settled. Google the number of books in the Bible.
Dorothy Mae said:
Well there are the texts available but they’re not part of bibles. You can read them but anyone with any degree of understanding sees quickly they are different to the point of wierd.
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Check out a Catholic Bible.
Dorothy Mae said:
It’s called knowledge and discernment. Some take only a little bit of brains.
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Was that an attempt at an insult?
Dorothy Mae said:
You think there are various bibles with various books in them. This just isn’t so.
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The canon consists of 46 books in the Old Testament and 27 books in the New Testament, for a total of 73 books in the Catholic Bible.:Google
 
dwb001 said:
Not settled. Google the number of books in the Bible.
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Google isn’t a reliable source. I know friends who studied theology and that’s not the case. I have a few bibles and they all have the same books.
dwb001 said:
Check out a Catholic Bible.
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That’s one difference and it’s been so for centuries. The catholics burned all Bibles for centuries. Finally the printing press got them and they had to come up with their own.
dwb001 said:
Was that an attempt at an insult?
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No, not at all. We’re having a discussion on a subject.
dwb001 said:
The canon consists of 46 books in the Old Testament and 27 books in the New Testament, for a total of 73 books in the Catholic Bible.:Google
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The catholic “bible” has a few extra books. But protestant churches don’t have special bibles.
 
Dorothy Mae said:
Google isn’t a reliable source. I know friends who studied theology and that’s not the case. I have a few bibles and they all have the same books.

That’s one difference and it’s been so for centuries. The catholics burned all Bibles for centuries. Finally the printing press got them and they had to come up with their own.

No, not at all. We’re having a discussion on a subject.

The catholic “bible” has a few extra books. But protestant churches don’t have special bibles.
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So not settled canon between Catholics and Prods. Thanks for agreeing with me.
 
dwb001 said:
So not settled canon between Catholics and Prods. Thanks for agreeing with me.
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Yet, the Catholics have settled their canon and the Protestants theirs, with both agreeing on the NT. I think the support is strongest for the Protestant canon, but either way, there are no other outstanding books that could be considered Christian scripture.
 
Free said:
Yet, the Catholics have settled their canon and the Protestants theirs, with both agreeing on the NT. I think the support is strongest for the Protestant canon, but either way, there are no other outstanding books that could be considered Christian scripture.
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Says you. But Dan Brown would probably disagree.
 
Free said:
Says 1600+ years of Christian history. Dan Brown's ideas have been debunked numerous times. It's almost all fiction and fantasy.
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So the question is not settled.
So long as one person questions something... it ain't settled.
 
dwb001 said:
So the question is not settled.
So long as one person questions something... it ain't settled.
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Such a fallacious argument could be used to say that it isn't settled that the Earth is round, since far more than one person questions that. Anything and everything could be called into question.

The question of canon is settled and has been for a very long time. Again, Dan Brown's claims have been thoroughly and repeatedly debunked.
 
DiscipleDave said:
God says " All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

Believe that.

Nicolaitan Christians says "Only the Pentateuch is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

All Scriptures, means ALL SCRIPTURES. What are Scriptures then? EVERYTHING God reveals in the Word of God.
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Do you consider 2 Ezdras and the other books of the Apocrypha to be included as ALL SCRIPTURE? How about the gospel of Thomas? Or the book of Enoch? How about the Pseudepigrapha? Are these ALL SCRIPTURE?
 
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