Does the Holy Spirit move after Acts?

[Mitspa]

My experience doesn’t trump the Word of God. I never said such a thing so please don’t put words in my mouth. It nearly compliments what the Word has meant to so many Christians out there. Maybe not in your little Christian circle, but in the one I’m in I see these signs and wonders all the time. Though, not as you state it. These are from God and Him alone! It’s also funny how you say “end times†only mentions the signs being from satan. There are many verses that use “end times†along with these miracles especially the one I keep on mentioning, but you ignore them if it doesn’t fit your agenda.



Last I checked God works through His people. I hear about Jesus here on earth walking around laying hands on people. In OT and NT God uses people of faith. People without faith are never used. I highly recommend you read Hebrews 11:1 - 12:2

Studies have shown that many people who claim to be healed later die of the very thing they supposedly were healed from?†Whose studies? I have friends who’ve seen the dead raised, go tell them that! The deaf boy who God healed can still hear, and as for myself, I can still walk upstairs.



Jesus answered, "It says: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"
Mat 16:4b (NIV) "A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign."



I already quoted Titus 3:5 saying it’s not by works, than your claiming that I’ve given some sort of check list? Clearly your mistaken, and then said for yourself that we are to put all of them together for the checklist to make it to heaven. It contradicts Titus 3:5 How about my statement earlier? Baptize in the name of Jesus = Spirit Baptism because that would make a whole lot more sense! Considering if we do not have the Spirit we are hell bound, it is the very thing that seals us. Simple enough a child can understand this.



The Bible appears to be just a history book for you, but for me it’s alive!
So your saying God’s plan died when the 12 apostles died in the flesh?

The gifts are still here and just because you don’t notice them or don’t have the faith to receive it yourself, doesn’t mean God doesn’t want to us His people to reach out to this lost and dyeing world. That was the original plan for God to send Jesus so we could receive the Holy Spirit. in the OT anyone who had the Holy Spirit inside them had “giftsâ€. It’s why I stated earlier do you believe the Holy Spirit lives inside us? As far as I can gather your against the move of the Spirit and grieving the Holy Spirit. Maybe it’s cause your taught wrong, or just believe the Bible is a history book?



Everything your doctrine means relies on this one verse, which is clearly misread because it contradicts the Word of God.

Do take the time to read Hebrews 11:1 – 12:2 again. It’s an encouraging to all believers! ☺

2Th 2:9 (NKJ) The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders.

Sidenote:
Can you think of a counterfeit miracle? I quickly think of all the quack doctors that live here In the Philippines. Sad part is sometimes people do get temporary relief so people continue to go back to them.

I believe the end times “anti Christ†will do big miraculous signs to even fool His elect. Maybe fire from heaven? He is the prince of the air.

Any honest person can see what is going on in this thread. some believe the Word of God and some seek to justify their powerless, and dead religion.

Psa 119:160


Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

What nonsense! to make the Word of God of no effect by traditions of men!

Not One promise of God will end! much less the Holy Spirit of promise!


Rev 3:17

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Rev 3:18

I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

 

[BornAgain]

Any honest person can see what is going on in this thread. some believe the Word of God and some seek to justify their powerless, and dead religion

Hi Mitspa,

Who are the one's that seek to justify....I am a little confused myself so if you could shed some light on who is dead in their religion or who are powerless would certainly help me with the confusion of this thread. Thank you.... :p

 

[Mitspa]

Any honest person can see what is going on in this thread. some believe the Word of God and some seek to justify their powerless, and dead religion

Hi Mitspa,

Who are the one's that seek to justify....I am a little confused myself so if you could shed some light on who is dead in their religion or who are powerless would certainly help me with the confusion of this thread. Thank you.... :p

Hello BornAgain! I dont think the rules really allow us to point out so and so? But the Word of God is eternal, Jesus never changes, the Holy Spirit did not go into a cave and hide. every word out of The Lords mouth is forever. It dont stop when some group of religious folks stop believeing it. Any promise He made is for you and me today! Remember how satan deceives? "did God really say?"
I say it is satan who is at the heart of keeping the Holy Spirit out of the "church" WHY? because the Holy Spirit comes and "convicts satan of judgment" So satan has blinded the church, to the truth. he also brings every nut job like Texx Marrs etc.. into public view to make the "real" seem ungodly!

Listen to those who are claiming the Holy Spirt has past! are they being really honest in scriptures? They claim the Holy Spirit is still here but its somehow a weaker and different Holy Spirit? Thats blasphemy in my opinion! better to say "I am not sure" than to LIE AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD!

 

[Justin_Gilpin]

Any honest person can see what is going on in this thread. some believe the Word of God and some seek to justify their powerless, and dead religion.

Psa 119:160


Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.

What nonsense! to make the Word of God of no effect by traditions of men!

Not One promise of God will end! much less the Holy Spirit of promise!


Rev 3:17

Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Rev 3:18

I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

Your right for the most part; sad to say. I truly feel like I'm now wasting my breath because they honestly don't want to hear what the Scripture is saying. Sure you can take any verse and piece them together to make it say whatever you want.

"But the anointing that you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that anyone should teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about everything, and is true, and is no lie—just as it has taught you, abide in him." 1 John 2:27

My prayers are with you who grieve the Holy Spirit when He's trying to teach you the Scriptures. If we all were truly led by the Spirit then we'd all be in agreement with what it says.

Hello BornAgain! I dont think the rules really allow us to point out so and so? But the Word of God is eternal, Jesus never changes, the Holy Spirit did not go into a cave and hide. every word out of The Lords mouth is forever. It dont stop when some group of religious folks stop believeing it. Any promise He made is for you and me today! Remember how satan deceives? "did God really say?"
I say it is satan who is at the heart of keeping the Holy Spirit out of the "church" WHY? because the Holy Spirit comes and "convicts satan of judgment" So satan has blinded the church, to the truth. he also brings every nut job like Texx Marrs etc.. into public view to make the "real" seem ungodly!

Listen to those who are claiming the Holy Spirt has past! are they being really honest in scriptures? They claim the Holy Spirit is still here but its somehow a weaker and different Holy Spirit? Thats blasphemy in my opinion! better to say "I am not sure" than to LIE AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD!

:amen God bless you brother as I know your trying to help too

 

[ezra]

Yes, I received the Gift of the Holy Spirit when I was baptized....

you got saved first then the holy spirit. then baptism

 

[BornAgain]

you got saved first then the holy spirit. then baptism

I received the gift of the Holy Spirit after I was baptized....Acts 2:38.

They were not only to repent, but they were to "be baptized." In giving the commission, Jesus said: "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved." John and Jesus had both preached baptism; Jesus had placed baptism in the commission; hence, the apostle Peter, guided by the Holy Spirit, gave the answer and told them what they should do. "Repent ye" is singular, while "be baptized every one of you" is in the plural. There is here also a change from the second to the third person; this change shows a break in the thought; the first thing to do is make a radical and complete change; this is done in repentance; then let each one be baptized "in the name of Jesus Christ." This is the same as the command in Matt. 28:19. There is no distinction between "eis to onoma" and "en toi onomati" with "baptizo," since "eis" and "en" are really the same word in origin. In Acts 10:48 "en toi onomati Iesou Christou" occurs, but "eis to onoma" is found in Acts 8:16; 19:5. The use of "onoma" means in the name or with the authority of one, as "eis onoma prophetou" (Matt. 10:41) as a prophet, in the name of a prophet.
—Gospel Advocate Commentaries

 

[BornAgain]

Hello BornAgain! I dont think the rules really allow us to point out so and so? But the Word of God is eternal, Jesus never changes, the Holy Spirit did not go into a cave and hide. every word out of The Lords mouth is forever. It dont stop when some group of religious folks stop believeing it. Any promise He made is for you and me today! Remember how satan deceives? "did God really say?"
I say it is satan who is at the heart of keeping the Holy Spirit out of the "church" WHY? because the Holy Spirit comes and "convicts satan of judgment" So satan has blinded the church, to the truth. he also brings every nut job like Texx Marrs etc.. into public view to make the "real" seem ungodly!

Listen to those who are claiming the Holy Spirt has past! are they being really honest in scriptures? They claim the Holy Spirit is still here but its somehow a weaker and different Holy Spirit? Thats blasphemy in my opinion! better to say "I am not sure" than to LIE AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD!

Thank you Mitspa...I appreciate your clarification...you have been a Christian and willing to help a sister with question.

 

[rrowell]

At this point showing the error in your reasoning is all that is required. There is simply no basis for taking the meaning of a word in one part of Scripture and equating it with it's use in another part.

So far I have not seen you show the error in anything? it has only been opinion. I could be erring but I prefer to be shown, not told.

It doesn't matter if it describes the Bible. It has no bearing on what Paul is saying in 1 Cor 13.

It absolutely does, if I am correct (which I say I am) then when the Bible was complete, then the Spiritual Gifts vanish away (as they have done further affirming it must be the Bible.)

As for teleios (Strong's #5046) which is used 17 times in the NT, that is not what is used in Ps 19:7 in the LXX, one of the verses you have tried to use to support your position.

It was actually in the TR used 18 times, with 7 different inflections, and with this particular inflection τελειον it is used exactly 7 times (Rom 12:2, 1Cor 13:10, Eph 4:13, Col 1:28, Jas 1:4, Jas 1:17, Jas 1:25) and every one of those verses can be seen clearly in 2 Tim 3:16...

I never said the word was in Psalms 19:7, I said Psalms 19:7 affirms Gods word as Perfect.

The context best fits something other than the Bible. See my post to Butch5 as to some of the difficulty with trying to make the Bible "that which is perfect."

I see no reason to believe that that was the case. If Paul was just writing to a certain group and not all Christians, then we must ask if whether or not other Christians at that time had part or even full knowledge.

Additionally, one then must consider that the "perfect" would had to have been something that happened while he was alive: "Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known." (ESV) Would this then apply to the group he was writing to or just Paul--"I shall know fully"?

If the "perfect" was the completion of Scripture, or some other thing that would occur after him writing that and prior to the end of all things, then one may raise all sorts of absurdities. For example, although Paul didn't exist when Scripture was completed (even what that means and when that happened can be up for debate), it must be said that at that point he then knew fully. But that is just absurd.

The best fit for this passage is that it was written to all believers and the "perfect" is referring to that period of time of the summation of all things; that distant point in the future when all will be fully revealed to believers.

It simply does not fit the context nor what we experience within the Church and Christian walk.

1 Corinthians 13:12 (KJV)
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

"For now we see through a glass, darkly" this is like looking into a mirror in the day, it was polished metal that would tarnish, The bible is not completed so revelation is not complete.


"but then face to face" Here I believe Paul does tell us himself (or us today) will never know (or could understand) the "full" revelation until we see him "face to face" 1 John 3:2, but does not change the fact that once the revelation given to us (the Bible) is sufficient and Miraculous powers including prophecy will no longer be required and will cease.


(as a matter of fact, "τελειον" in the inflection used is the best single word translation to English is "completed" look it up <-Click Here, Strongs usually gives the Lemma (least inflected word))

 

[Blev]

Justin
I was in no way correcting you. I was pointing out we are told to recieve the Holy Spirit, it was not merely a suggestion.
The verse was also quoted some recieved the Holy Spirit before being water baptized

 

[Eugene]

Follow me as I follow Christ. I'm not perfect but I can point you to the One who is!

An excerpt of a pamphlet I wrote: 1 Corinthians 11:1, "Be ye followers of me (Paul), even as I also am of Christ." You won't be able to follow Christ in dying for the world, but you can follow Jesus as Paul did in 2 Corinthians 11:23-30. Are any doing this today, and according to Romans 2:16 Paul's walk in Christ is the criterion. Your and my walks are judged by men, and they know us by our fruits, and so in essence; this is not only what I say, but here's the way to do it.

Paul suffered many things to bring us the gospel, and the following verses are an illustration of how he followed Christ. (23) "Are they ministers of Christ? (I speak as a fool) I am more; in labours more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequent, in deaths oft. (24) Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one. (25) Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned, thrice I suffered shipwreck, a night and a day I have been in the deep; (26) In journeyings often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils by mine own countrymen, in perils by the heathen, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren; (27) In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness. (28) Beside those things that are without, that which cometh upon me daily, the care of all the churches. (29) Who is weak, and I am not weak? who is offended, and I burn not? (30) If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities."

Regardless of the problems Paul encountered, he was able to say in Romans 8:28, "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." If you're attending a church, have you heard Paul's gospel? You can hear a message of salvation in most Christian churches, but how many are telling their congregations what God wants told during this dispensational age of grace? Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 9:16, "For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!"

Blessings in Christ Jesus.

 

[Eugene]

I am not a "So called" miracle healer, but I have had God's gift of healing applied to a dead child with a broken neck in my hands as I cried out to God. Gifts are given severely as God chooses; not us.

Have I received the Holy Spirit since I believed? oh yes. Should I exercise that faith given me in ministering to others? yes again. I have seen large growths disappear in group prayer, lives made whole again out of a life of despair in a moment of time. Praying online for a brother diagnosed with an inoperable huge cancerous growth in his windpipe or whatever it is and lungs laying in the hospital ICU gasping for air waiting for the bad news, he said he was in the worst depression of his life. He was prayed for, and the next morning before going further with treatment the doctor wanted one follow-up MRI or whatever before starting any treatment. What? they found nothing left but some residual matter; the doctor couldn't believe it and that soon cleared up.

One dear brother here talks of "When the perfect Comes" as relating to gifts no longer being in effect, and that's exactly what I preached as a doctrine of a church I attended prior to being filled with the Holy Spirit. I now view that as when we are caught up into the very presence of our Savior face to face.

I do not have to go into the world looking for a place to apply any gift my Lord gives me; He brings them to me. Two weeks ago my neighbor called me to come to her house and help set up an oxygen compressor to fill spare bottles so she could become mobile. I had no idea she had become dependent on it; she had just gone to the doctor and they rushed her to the hospital and walla; here's what we have for you. After a week she came home to her family fully equipped to spend the remainder of her life on a breathing apparatus. I asked if I could pray for her and she and her husband agreed. Within the week the company came and removed all the equipment.

I do not know the answers to all of God's wondrous love and care of us, as many times I pray seemingly to no effect, but I do believe God always does that which is right. I reckon the Apostle Paul may have wondered somewhat like that when he prayed three times to have God remove the thorn in his flesh in 2 Corinthians 12:8-9, but God left it there for his good.

As Christians we are given bodily and spiritual gifts; what are they? You'll never know unless you go forth in faith. Are you afraid to pray for something because you think you are responsible for the outcome? If not, our prayer forum would be filled with your prayers seeking help for those coming to us in need. In all our times of need we are told to go to God's throne of grace, and I put that into practice daily. How do I know that God hasn't given me a gift of healing for that poor soul coming to us asking for prayer? I don't but I pray anyhow. We read in Proverbs 18:16 that "A man's gift maketh room for him."

Now I have ended up just rambling on but I hope it is an encouragement for some of you to go forth in the power of God available to you in Jesus' name.

 

[Randy]

Mark 16:15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.â€

Are we suppose to heal the sick + cast out demons? What are your thoughts on this verse? I know there are many supporting verses, so this could be a doctrine to preach,cast out demons, speak in new tongues, and heal the sick?

It comes down to what I see as "authority given in those days" God's Holy Spirit healed the sick. I don't have the authority to state this, Acts 3:6 and see the Holy Spirit react to my commands.

That being said I can "pray" for others and ask God to heal the sick. I have the Spirit of Christ in me and I have never spoke in tongues and I didn't have flames of fire descend on me as in Pentecost. But I do have the same Spirit in me that Peter, Paul, John etc.. were given. I don't have their authority though.

 

[Mitspa]

It comes down to what I see as "authority given in those days" God's Holy Spirit healed the sick. I don't have the authority to state this, Acts 3:6 and see the Holy Spirit react to my commands.

That being said I can "pray" for others and ask God to heal the sick. I have the Spirit of Christ in me and I have never spoke in tongues and I didn't have flames of fire descend on me as in Pentecost. But I do have the same Spirit in me that Peter, Paul, John etc.. were given. I don't have their authority though.

What if there is more? what if you have only received part of what God will give?
would you want it? Did the Lord not give us Authority? or did His Words end with the natural life of a group of men?

 

[Mitspa]

I am not a "So called" miracle healer, but I have had God's gift of healing applied to a dead child with a broken neck in my hands as I cried out to God. Gifts are given severely as God chooses; not us.

Have I received the Holy Spirit since I believed? oh yes. Should I exercise that faith given me in ministering to others? yes again. I have seen large growths disappear in group prayer, lives made whole again out of a life of despair in a moment of time. Praying online for a brother diagnosed with an inoperable huge cancerous growth in his windpipe or whatever it is and lungs laying in the hospital ICU gasping for air waiting for the bad news, he said he was in the worst depression of his life. He was prayed for, and the next morning before going further with treatment the doctor wanted one follow-up MRI or whatever before starting any treatment. What? they found nothing left but some residual matter; the doctor couldn't believe it and that soon cleared up.

One dear brother here talks of "When the perfect Comes" as relating to gifts no longer being in effect, and that's exactly what I preached as a doctrine of a church I attended prior to being filled with the Holy Spirit. I now view that as when we are caught up into the very presence of our Savior face to face.

I do not have to go into the world looking for a place to apply any gift my Lord gives me; He brings them to me. Two weeks ago my neighbor called me to come to her house and help set up an oxygen compressor to fill spare bottles so she could become mobile. I had no idea she had become dependent on it; she had just gone to the doctor and they rushed her to the hospital and walla; here's what we have for you. After a week she came home to her family fully equipped to spend the remainder of her life on a breathing apparatus. I asked if I could pray for her and she and her husband agreed. Within the week the company came and removed all the equipment.

I do not know the answers to all of God's wondrous love and care of us, as many times I pray seemingly to no effect, but I do believe God always does that which is right. I reckon the Apostle Paul may have wondered somewhat like that when he prayed three times to have God remove the thorn in his flesh in 2 Corinthians 12:8-9, but God left it there for his good.

As Christians we are given bodily and spiritual gifts; what are they? You'll never know unless you go forth in faith. Are you afraid to pray for something because you think you are responsible for the outcome? If not, our prayer forum would be filled with your prayers seeking help for those coming to us in need. In all our times of need we are told to go to God's throne of grace, and I put that into practice daily. How do I know that God hasn't given me a gift of healing for that poor soul coming to us asking for prayer? I don't but I pray anyhow. We read in Proverbs 18:16 that "A man's gift maketh room for him."

Now I have ended up just rambling on but I hope it is an encouragement for some of you to go forth in the power of God available to you in Jesus' name.

Good post brother Eugene!

 

[rrowell]

It comes down to what I see as "authority given in those days" God's Holy Spirit healed the sick. I don't have the authority to state this, Acts 3:6 and see the Holy Spirit react to my commands.

That being said I can "pray" for others and ask God to heal the sick. I have the Spirit of Christ in me and I have never spoke in tongues and I didn't have flames of fire descend on me as in Pentecost. But I do have the same Spirit in me that Peter, Paul, John etc.. were given. I don't have their authority though.

To this I agree, and I think well put...

These false preachers walking around laying their hands on people as if they could say this Acts 3:6 is without Biblical proof...

But prayer has never been taken away, we are in fact told to do so unceasingly :

1 Thessalonians 5:17 (KJV)
17 Pray without ceasing.

 

[Mitspa]

To this I agree, and I think well put...

These false preachers walking around laying their hands on people as if they could say this Acts 3:6 is without Biblical proof...

But prayer has never been taken away, we are in fact told to do so unceasingly :

1 Thessalonians 5:17 (KJV)
17 Pray without ceasing.

Rom 3:3

For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

Rom 3:4

God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged

2Pe 3:5

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

Pro 4:19

The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.
Pro 4:20

My son, attend to my words; incline thine ear unto my sayings.
Pro 4:21

Let them not depart from thine eyes; keep them in the midst of thine heart.
Pro 4:22

For they are life unto those that find them, and health to all their flesh.
Pro 4:23

Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life.

Out of your belly shall flow rivers of living water!

 

[Rebecabrown88]

I don't know why Christians are so afraid of the Holy Spirit.

No where does it show in the Bible that the Holy Spirit is ONLY for the Aspostles. You can *interpret* it to mean that way, but Jesus never says: You guys and no one else will be able to do my works filled with the Holy Spirit. It's ONLY YOU GUYS.

That passage is left up to interpretation and people interpret it diffferent ways.

So the way that I see it is, the proof of whether or not Jesus meant to say that EVERY Christian can do greater works than He, and EVERY Christian is to be filled with the Holy Spirit and is to do works through the Holy Spirit, is whether or not the people that believe this is true actually DO works through the Holy Spirit. And the answer is a resounding YES.

I'm pentecostal. I speak in Tongues and when I was "baptized in the Holy Spirit", it's unlike anything you can ever experience. Your whole body burns and your mouth just opens and speaks. It's amazing

Casting out demons is the same. About 4 weeks ago, we had a girl with demons come in, and the only way to get it out is to say: Leave in the name of Jesus. And it left and she was freed. Again, the Holy Spirit moving in amazing ways!

In Luke 3, John the Baptist says: water. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with[c] the Holy Spirit and fire

And there is nothing in these verses from John's or Jesus'mouth that make it seem like that Holy Spirit baptism is limited to only the apostles. Anyone that believes that is interpreting the verses in a different way - there is nothing concrete that says otherwise.

In fact - Cornelius is not even Jewish and he and his entire family get baptized in the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues. So why would the Holy Spirit stop moving after Acts?

So i think that the best test is the physical, visible proof. And I've seen once and time again that miracles *do* happen and the Holy Spirit *does* baptize and moves in us even today!

 

[ezra]

Are you saved? if so at what point were you saved (give me scripture please)?

i am sorry to say this. but you are Blind to the scriptures. it appears as if you do selective scripture . you can not pick and choose scripture to base your doctrine.

 

[rrowell]

i am sorry to say this. but you are Blind to the scriptures. it appears as if you do selective scripture . you can not pick and choose scripture to base your doctrine.

I am not selecting scripture, I am asking you for some, if I am wrong I want to be right.

So please tell me at what point in the scripture did you become saved? what scripture did you use to validate your salvation?

 

[Mitspa]

I am not selecting scripture, I am asking you for some, if I am wrong I want to be right.

So please tell me at what point in the scripture did you become saved? what scripture did you use to validate your salvation?

He might have used this one?



Rom 10:8

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10

For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Rom 10:11

For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

It the best one for salvation!