Misrepresentation
destiny said:
I think the thorn in my side concerning the OSAS issue is that a lot of times its focus is more on 'what you can get away with' than on walking in obedience to God. This won't produce true disciples.
Ok folks - it appears I am the one so let's get the show on the road here.
First off thanks Judy for challenging this statement made by the above poster.
I’ve never sought to make light of sin nor have I placed the emphasis on 'what you can get away with'. When discussing this OSAS issue my emphasis has always been on how the sinner is justified before God for an understanding of this doctrine clears up OSAS.
Do I believe a true saint can sin? Yes.
Do I believe a true saint will sin? Yes. Rom. 7
Do I believe a true saint should sin? An emphatic no!!!
Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
I’ve been posting here for almost 5 years and I trust some of you can attest to my stand here even if others cannot see my stand. I believe the saint lives according to:
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; and..
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
And a few more..
Grace teaches a true saint how to live. “Loose-it†on the other hand live by the law – this is very evident for they place the emphasis on obedience so much that they have made their prideful obedience the
basis for their justification which is contrary to Paul. People who spend talking about their great obedience are most likely counting on their great obedience to justify themselves before God.
Bottom line – the above poster twisted my view on grace and misrepresented what I believe about the practical Christian life. This was a cheap shot and uncalled for. They did this because it is evident their understanding of grace and justification is lacking at best.
Now to rub salt in the wound: Do I believe that if I “started to get drunk, run around on his wife, and rob banks for a living (and live this way as a lifestyle)†that I’d still be saved? An emphatic yes. Would I ever do the above? I pray I wouldn’t but it is within all true saints to blow it. But if I were to do the above then I’d loose my wife, my testimony, my job, my joy, my peace and a lot more but my salvation? Nope – that is settled in Christ.
I should have left the Ignore button on.
God bless