[I know what you mean.
But think of this]
Let's think about scripture, rather than philosophical speculation.
[Why do you suppose God created mankind?]
For His own Glory
[He knew we would sin in the Garden.]
18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
If you want to use scripture that's perfect with me.
But your going to have to state the book, chapter and verse.
You have an 18 up there...That's not enough info.
However, I know the verse, but what does that have to do with why God created us if He knew we would sin in the Garden? OF COURSE, God knows all His works from the beginning.
And you say He created us for His own glory?
What I wrote in green up there said exactly that...that God created us FOR HIS GLORY, and how does He get that glory in calvinist theology? By sending most of humanity to hell.
Yes, that's some glory God has for Himself. That He created most of humanity to send them to hell.
Do you realize that this is blasphemy?
Also, you should learn to use the reply features.
[He knew most would be going to hell.]
Where does it say "most are going to hell? I read where a multitude will be saved, more than the sand of the sea,More than the stars in the heaven. Where do you see"MOST"
Where do I see MOST?
Are you following along??
I'M saying that God knew most would go to hell.
He only picked a few - so most are going to hell.
What about this do you not understand?
[Do you think God enjoys sending persons to hell?]
23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord God: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
Why would you or anyone ask such a question when scripture gives a direct answer?
Well, you still didn't post the scripture.
So it seems from your verse that God does NOT enjoy persons going to hell...
and I agree.
So WHY is most of humanity going to hell IF GOD does not want them to?
Could it have something to do with the fact that He PASSED THEM OVER?
God does not take pleasure in the death of the wicked, but they are surely going to die!
You must understand all the verses equally, not pick and choose to create a false scenerio.
What false scenario?
YOU picked the verse and I agree with it.
Please answer the question....
WHY are most humans going to hell IF GOD does not wish them to?
Could it have something to do with Him PASSING THEM OVER?
[Can we agree that He doesn't at least?]
No...The original creation was very good Gen.1:31
What does this have anything to do with anything?
If you're driving and don't have time, I'd appreciate it if you just wouldn't answer.
And the ones that are passed by are going to hell.[If Jesus is our atonement, doesn't this mean that God made a plan for mankind to be saved?]
Jesus died a Covenant death for All the Father gave to Him, They and they alone will be saved. Jn6;37-44
NO MORE , NO LESS....The others are passed by.
And you posted Ezekiel 33:11 which states that God has no enjoyment in sending persons to hell.
So why is God PASSING OVER persons if He's a God of love, mercy, and justice.
Why doesn't He give to everyone the same opportunity to become saved?
11Say to them, ‘As I live!’ declares the Lord GOD, ‘I take no pleasure at all in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn back, turn back from your evil ways!
23“Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked,” declares the Lord GOD, “rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?