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Bible Study good Friday
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Scriptures literally says three days and three nights and that I have to believe plus all the other scriptural proof I have give. I truly can not see how you can call this a idiomatic expression.
Today I am going to die and be laid to rest before sunset. Day means that part of the day, not a 24hour period, but the moment of that day before sunset.
23 For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; 24 and when He had given thanks, He broke itand said, “Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.”25 In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” 1 Corinthians 11:23-25
- the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread
JLB
I have shown you where it’s mathematically impossible for it to be three days and three literal nights.
For it to be three literal nights, it must be 4 days.
This is without question.
If you choose to ignore this truth, then so be it.
JLB
I couldn’t agree more.
He was laid to rest on Friday. Day 1
The sabbath was the next day. Day 2
He rose from the dead on Day 3
The first day of the week.
JLB
So true.
There is only one Sabbath mentioned in context to His death burial and resurrection
The Sabbath : The Seventh Day.
I challenge anyone to more that one Sabbath mentioned in the context of His death burial and resurrection.
JLB
It was God who established the Hebrew Lunar calendar beginning with the first month being Abib/Nisan. God also gave instruction for the 10th and the 14th of the month of Nisan. Remember you have to begin with sunset that began a new day.
On the 10th of Nisan (Monday) they were instructed by God to take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house This had to be an unblemished lamb a male of the first year. And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day (Thursday) of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening being Thursday evening. This a a shadow of Jesus dying and laid in the tomb Thursday before sunset.
At midnight, now being Friday before sunrise, the Lord smote all the firstborn of Egypt. Midnight being after sunset on Thursday was the beginning of the Lord's passover in Egypt. And he called for Moses and Aaron by night, and said, Rise up, and get you forth from among my people, both ye and the children of Israel; and go, serve the LORD, as ye have said. Exodus Chapter 12
Matthew 26:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had finished all these sayings, he said unto his disciples, 2 Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified.
Two days would begin on Thursday after sunset being the beginning of Friday with Passover being Saturday after sunset that would begin a new day. Jesus was crucified, dead and buried before Thursday at sunset just as the lambs were killed and were eaten that same night on Thursday before sunset.
Matthew 26 the last supper, (not a Seder Passover as I already explained), that Jesus sat and ate with His disciples and told them of His betrayal that He would be crucified was on Wednesday evening of the 12th before sunset. After sunset began the new day of the 13th (Thursday) that begins the Fast of the Firstborn as being a day of preparation that John spoke of in John chapter 19 as Jesus said it would be two days before Passover.
Exodus Chapter 16 Moses gave instruction for keeping the sabbaths.
I think this is a great topic and well worth finding all the information we can on it. The Lunar Calendar is so different then our Gregorian Calendar in the numbering of days. You have to use the Lunar Babylonian Calendar to understand most of this. Now to answer your questions.
It was Rameses III that is mentioned in Exodus 12:37. There were 11 pharaohs named Rameses.
Exodus 16:1 And they took their journey from Elim, and all the congregation of the children of Israel came unto the wilderness of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after their departing out of the land of Egypt. 2 And the whole congregation of the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron in the wilderness: 3 And the children of Israel said unto them, Would to God we had died by the hand of the LORD in the land of Egypt, when we sat by the flesh pots, and when we did eat bread to the full; for ye have brought us forth into this wilderness, to kill this whole assembly with hunger. 4 Then said the LORD unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no. 5 And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily. 6 And Moses and Aaron said unto all the children of Israel, At even, then ye shall know that the LORD hath brought you out from the land of Egypt: 7 And in the morning, then ye shall see the glory of the LORD; for that he heareth your murmurings against the LORD: and what are we, that ye murmur against us?
The 15th being a Saturday the following morning was the 16th of Nisan being Sunday the first day of the week.
Exodus 12, God did say to eat their lambs after they were slaughtered, but we have to remember Moses didn't receive the Mosaic laws until they came into the land of Sin and God called Moses up to Mt. Sinai. All Moses and Aaron would know and follow would be the Noahic commandments, which are the then commandments we know today that we are to keep, Jew and Gentile.
God instructed Moses and Aaron that on the 10th day of the first month being Nisan to take to them every man a lamb without blemish. They were to keep their lambs until the 14th of Nisan being the day before the Lord's passover of all the first born. That evening they were instructed to kill their lambs and place the blood on their door post then to roast their lambs with fire and eat them with unleavened bread and with bitter herbs. I would think it would be before sunset. If anything was leftover they were to wait until morning to burn the leftovers. They were to eat it in haste fully dressed and staffs in their hands for after midnight the Lord would pass over Egypt killing all the first born. It would not be till sometime in the morning after midnight they would have taken flight out of Egypt.
It was the 15th (Saturday) of Nisan that was to be held as a memorial of the passover that happened around midnight after the 14th being a Friday. We read in Exodus 16 about Moses giving instructions for keeping the Sabbaths. This particular sabbath would become a High Sabbath.
It is an open forum that all can discuss anything, even if something is directed to another person. If you do not want others to jump in your conversation with another person might I suggest you take it to PM with them and discuss it there.
stovebolts
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Cornelius Tacitus, a well-known first century Roman historian, also mentioned Pontius Pilate in one if his well-known texts:
“Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus…” (Annales, Historiae, Chapter 15, paragraphs 54 and 55)
We see here that Jesus really existed in association with Jesus. I can find a few others as well.
Please don't misunderstand my point. History and archeology verifies Jesus was crucified and it gives us a timeframe when it occurred.
Im not sure what you think you heard me say, but my intent was that we can use outside sources to verify the Bible and gain a better understanding of its content. My comment about it being dangerous to only use the Bible to verify is a valid point, and for many reasons that should be obvious.
But I regress. I was using a source which used modern technology that is able to calculate the exact date of Passover during the timeframe, verified from historical writings outside the Bible to assign days for Passover based on those years.
ezra
Member
might i suggest you do the same ..
stovebolts
Member
Please stop twisting my words. That is not what I meant so please stop.
stovebolts
Member
Did you get a chance to read my reply to you. I even gave you a link in a previous post.
In a Jewish mind, a typical day looks like this.
Night, Day.
The 14th looks like this.
Night, Day, Night.
Jesus Died a 3 and was buried before the end of the Day. This is Day 1.
The Night of the 15th is counted twice. Jews consider the night of the 15th as the night of the 14th because scripture says they had to eat the lamb by the end of the day...
This is because
Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
These are the words Jesus spoke. If He said three days and three nights I will believe His math. Sunset to sunset makes a day in the Hebrew numbering of days and nights. There is no 24 hour period.
ezra
Member
i have twisted nothing welcome to my world
Thank you for proving that Friday was not a Sabbath before the the Seventh day, because Moses and the children of Israel traveled away from Egypt on that day.
The only Sabbath mentioned in the New Testament account of the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ is the Sabbath; the seventh day.
JLB
The term three days and three nights is an idiomatic expression for three consecutive days.
Not three “literal” nights.
Three literal nights, means there are four days involved.
I believe Paul when he said d he had a “thorn in his flesh”, but that doesn’t mean Paul “literally” had a thorn in his flesh.
Thorn in his flesh was an idiomatic expression for a source of irritation or frustration, like we say today “pain in the @#s”.
JLB
By showing from the scriptures, like I have, that there is only one Sabbath associated with the death and resurrection of Christ.
Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a tomb that was hewn out of the rock, where no one had ever lain before. That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near. And the women who had come with Him from Galilee followed after, and they observed the tomb and how His body was laid. Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared.
Luke 23:53-24:1
Day 1 - The day of Preparation- Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a tomb that was hewn out of the rock, where no one had ever lain before. That day was the Preparation, and the Sabbath drew near.
Day 2. The Sabbath - Then they returned and prepared spices and fragrant oils. And they rested on the Sabbath according to the commandment.
Day 3. The first day of the week - Now on the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they, and certain other women with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared.
Very Simple.
JLB