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Have you spoke in tongues, if not you are not saved

Is speaking in tongues needed to be saved

  • Yes it is

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No it is not

    Votes: 20 100.0%
  • Total voters
    20
Anyone want to try and tackle this one ?

Hi there All !

I thought that this thread was a question to the matter of " is speaking in tongues needed to be saved ?" Tongues in the Greek as it is utilized in most of the New Testament (which is written in Greek) comes from the Greek word Glossa, as it was written in the Greek and THEN translated in the English as tongues, and it means a language, such as Spanish, English, German, Chinese, Dutch, etc.; now the question was does one need to speak in a language to obtain salvation, right ? well, EVERYONE speaks in a particular language depending on what nation they are from. However, what is needed to obtain salvation is written in the Word of God, the Bible.... let us see what is says with regards to how and what one must do to obtain salvation. I think it is the most quoted verse in the Bible and many know it by heart. Let's see if it sounds familiar to you. I hope this is not an over simplification.


John 3:16
" For God so Loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, THAT WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHALL NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. "


So we see by this verse, which is very straight and to the point, it needs no interpretation, that JESUS CHRIST DOES THE SAVING, and not someone that speaks a language in Spanish, English, German, Chinese, Dutch, or any other language for that matter. Thanks for listening !


Abiyah
 
His posts were from May; you joined July 1.
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Right then my mistake ;)

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Unknown to whom? THE CONGREGATION.

And unknown to the speaker.
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Unknown to the speaker AND the congregations - hence the 'no man' bit.

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So that means, if someone was to come to my home speaking japenese then it would be an UNKNOWN TONGUE and NO MAN would understand.

Except for the person speaking it, which is not what Paul was talking about. Nor is this what happened in Acts 2.
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Paul was talking about an unknown foreign language...not known by the speaker or the congregation. If I was to speak japanese (the gift of tongues) and entered a congregation where NO MAN understood it....I'd be speaking mysteries. This includes me - the speaker.

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How can one have faith in God's word if they see a sign? That's not faith at all!!!


Faith in God's Word has nothing to do with whether or not one sees a sign. One could see a sign and it could strengthen their faith. So, yes, it is still faith.
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Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the EVIDENCE of things unseen. The signs/works would be evidence of your faith but your faith is the evidence of salvation - since you can't see salvation.

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If you are a sign seeker then you are an 'adulterous generation'! <--- Jesus words...not mine.


Who said anyone was seeking a sign? This is a fallcious argument.
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People who seek for a sign that they are saved - ie tongues...are seeking signs!
 
Merry,

Paul was talking about an unknown foreign language...not known by the speaker or the congregation. If I was to speak japanese (the gift of tongues) and entered a congregation where NO MAN understood it....I'd be speaking mysteries. This includes me - the speaker.
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Then I guess I am unclear as to what your original point was since that is something that neither I nor Julian are arguing against.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the EVIDENCE of things unseen. The signs/works would be evidence of your faith but your faith is the evidence of salvation - since you can't see salvation.
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I guess I am unclear here too about the point you are trying to make.

People who seek for a sign that they are saved - ie tongues...are seeking signs!
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But you are assuming that those who speak in tongues are looking for a sign, but such an assumption is unwarranted. Perhaps some do, some sects even, such as UPC, but I wouldn't even think "most" could be argued.
 
Well that's probably because I came in halfway through a conversation ;)

But you are assuming that those who speak in tongues are looking for a sign, but such an assumption is unwarranted. Perhaps some do, some sects even, such as UPC, but I wouldn't even think "most" could be argued
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No I'm saying those who seek for a sign or evidence that one is saved or that one has the Holy Spirit are seeking signs. I didn't say that ALL tongue speakers are looking for signs. I myself speak in tongues because I belonged to a cult that sort after signs - I sort for a sign and I got one...but now I know that I was wrong.

I no longer agree that one needs to speak in tongues as evidence or a sign of salvation - as this would be seeking after a sign.
 
I have just come across this subject, surfing the different subjects on this website.

I must say that I am encouraged with the results of the poll thus far.
One of the things that gets up my nose are Christians, (well meaning they may be) who come along and say that we must speak in tongues in order to be saved.

I say to the 7%, ‘what gives you the right to judge another Christian’s experience because they don’t speak in tongues?

The bible forbids judging, Why? Because humans judge by the outside appearance, why God judges the heart.

Tongues becomes salvation by works: i.e. I must do something to be saved, I must speak in tongues. Therefore It becomes a subtle form of legalism.

My bible says we are saved by grace through faith and not by works least any man should boast.

Eph 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faithâ€â€and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of Godâ€â€
Eph 2:9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Jesus is my Saviour, not tongues.

Sorry to be so forthright on this subject.

God bless
gazzamor
 
Free said:
sputnik,

I would like to see biblical support for any one of your claims. Well, I would like to see support for all of them, but even just one will do.
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'Tongues are FOR A SIGN, not for them that BELIEVE, but for them that BELIEVE NOT'.

MEC
 
1 cor 12:7 to each individual the manifestation of the Spirit is given for some benefit
.in other words, the Holy Spirit has bestowed upon each individual christian a unique combination of gifts that he is to use to build God's Kingdom. the gift of tongues is one of those gifts

1cor 14:1-51Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy. 2For anyone who speaks in a tongue[a] does not speak to men but to God. Indeed, no one understands him; he utters mysteries with his spirit. 3But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort. 4He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church. 5I would like every one of you to speak in tongues,[c] but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues,[d] unless he interprets, so that the church may be edified.

1 cor 14:19 But in the church I would rather speak five intelligible words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue.

just because a christian does not posess the particular gift of speaking in tongues does not mean that he is not filled with the Holy Spirit. the fact is that God may have given him many other spiritual gifts that the person who speaks in tongues doesn't have..... that being said i do believe that God does give the gift of tongues to many i myself pray in the Spirit and i'm a catholic who considers himself a "very orthodox" catholic who loves the latin mass the most....... many of the saints had this gift too.

hanna had this gift along with many others.
1 sam 1:12-13And it happened, as she continued praying before the LORD, that Eli watched her mouth. 13 Now Hannah spoke in her heart; only her lips moved, but her voice was not heard. Therefore Eli thought she was drunk.

with this gift(and all the others) we must keep the humility of Christ as with other gifts we don't get them because we're "wonderful" we get them cause He chooses to give them to He wants.
 
I took 2 years each of French and Spanish, does that count? :-D
 
ChristineES said:
I took 2 years each of French and Spanish, does that count? :-D
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Only if you plan on moving to France or Spain, I guess! :lol: ... or a French or Spanish speaking country...
 
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Is speaking in tongues needed to be saved?

No.

Getting saved is needed to be saved.
Speaking in tongues is speaking in tongues.

I am thinking of starting a new thread.

"Is God pleased when His children mock the gifts of the Holy Spirit?"
 
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Praying in tongues is a gift that is received. We ask, and we receive it. In other words it is a free gift from God. Interpretation and divers of tongues is gift that is given as God choses for the benifit of the Church. Do you see the difference?


May God bless, Golfjack
 
Gabbylittleangel said:
"Is God pleased when His children mock the gifts of the Holy Spirit?"
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destiny said:
Grace probably covers ignorance to the extent of denial, but not mockery.
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Destiny, you are so intensely deep. :)


Gabbylittleangel, I was Not mocking, just having a bit of fun. If I choose to use words from a song that are indecipherable so as to not allow the demons to "hear" the words I want to express in a whimsical verse. Is that so bad? What does the bible say about speaking in tongues, surely not everything there is to know about it? God knows the heart. And whatever comes out of my mouth is from my heart. It was not mocking.... it was song....

God knows what I was saying from my heart. It was whimsical, not mocking. And I'm sure there were some who were tickled by the whimsy spirit of it.... and that's all that matters to me.

sorry, no harm meant. Seems there is a shortage of "lightheartedness" lately. I did not intend to mock speaking in tongues.


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Relic, are you having one of those days where you have to keep explaining yourself? :-D

God knows your heart, sis ....thats good enough

(Thanks for explaining)
 
destiny said:
Relic, are you having one of those days where you have to keep explaining yourself? :-D

God knows your heart, sis ....thats good enough

(Thanks for explaining)
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Thanks, I needed that! :lol:


It's a jungle out there!

ooooga chucka! :silly:


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Is the gift of tongues necessary for salvation? No of course not.

And there is something else I can state just as adamantly. Tongues is no guarantee that one is 'saved'.

And since I speak in tongues, I'm sure Solo would agree with me. :wink:
 
I don't believe tongues are necessary for salvation, but God doesn't give the authentic gift of tongues to an unsaved person either.
The gifts of the spirit are to be coveted by believers, they are a blessing to the body and a testament to the glory of God.

Alot of people who are sick and dying would rather have a spirit filled believer praying for them instead of someone who dismisses the power of God as being able to manifest through the body.
 
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