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Hell's Population Clock Update (19)

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38 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Using the original factor of 2,669 adult-age Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 101,422 adult-age Americans have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 2,252,374 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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"Who is that mighty one who seems not to heed the fire, and lieth lowering and disdainful, so that the fiery rain seem not to mellow him? And he himself, who had become aware that I was questioning my guide about him, cried: Such as I was living, am I in death."

Dante's Divine Comedy
Inferno, canto XIV, v.46-51

Dante's "mighty one" refers to a character in the epic named Capaneus; representing people who retain in Hell the very qualities which sent them there to begin with; and in Capaneus' case, he represents a very stubborn blasphemer who simply refuses to be cowed in the slightest by a flaming substance that settles on him continually like snowflakes except that the flakes in his predicament are not ice, but rather, akin to hot, glowing cinders.

As usual, though Dante's concepts are impressionistic, they do contain a kernel of truth, and in this example; it's that people arrive dead in Hell just as corrupt as they were in life.

†. Rev 22:11 . . He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

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I apologize

A sign of your good character!

 

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Hell's Population Clock Update (20)

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40 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Using the original factor of 2,669 adult-age Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 106,760 adult-age Americans have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 2,370,920 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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Charles Hart, the author of Without Reason— a book about this autistic son and brother —sums up his son's thinking in one sentence: "Ted's thought processes aren't logical; they're associational."

This explains son Ted's statement "I'm not afraid of airplanes. That's why they fly so high." In Ted's mind, airplanes fly as high as they do because he's not afraid of heights; in other words, his illogical thinking combines two pieces of information; 1) airplanes fly high, and 2) he's not afraid of heights. It's like in his mind, if he had a fear of heights, airplanes would fly lower to accommodate him.

That kind of associational thinking takes place even in the minds of so called "normal" people too. There are perfectly rational people convinced in their own minds that the Bible's hell doesn't exist simply on the basis of 1) it isn't reasonable, 2) it's too cruel, and 3) they're afraid of fire and lava.

†. Rev 20:12-15 . . And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

. . . And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Liquefied flame occurs in nature as volcanic lava; of which there are a few types. There's the really runny, low-silica watery stuff like that of the Hawaiian islands, and at the other end of the spectrum, there's the heavy, pasty, high-silica stuff called blocky lava like that of the Augustine volcano in the State of Alaska. The pasty stuff is particularly dangerous because its viscosity impedes the venting of its own gases; like a bubble trying to rise in peanut butter, thus causing a build-up of gas pressure so immense that it results in a catastrophic blast when the volcano's structure reaches the limits of its mechanical endurance, whereas Hawaii's lava gases vent easily with relatively little resistance.

It's my guess the reservoir of liquefied flame depicted Rev 20:11-15 is an impoundment consisting of low-silica Hawaiian type of lava; but then again maybe it's just molten sulfur. I should think that would do the trick just as well.

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Hell's Population Clock Update (21)

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42 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Using the original factor of 2,669 adult-age Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 112,098 adult-age Americans have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 2,489,466 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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Tales Beyond The Crypt

Creeping up the blind side, shinning up the wall,
stealing through the dark of night.
Climbing through a window, stepping to the floor
checking to the left and the right.
Picking up the pieces, putting them away;
something doesn't feel quite right.

Help me someone, let me out of here.
Then out of the dark was suddenly heard:
Welcome to the Home by the Sea

Coming out the woodwork, through the open door,
pushing from above and below.
Shadows with no substance, in the shape of men;
round and down and sideways they go.
Adrift without direction, eyes that hold despair
then as one they sigh and they moan:

Help us someone, let us out of here.
Living here so long undisturbed,
dreaming of the time we were free
so many years ago before the time when we first heard:
Welcome to the Home by the Sea

Sit down . .Sit down
As we relive our lives in what we tell you

Images of sorrow, pictures of delight
things that go to make up a life.
Endless days of summer, longer nights of gloom
waiting for the morning light.
Scenes of unimportance, photos in a frame
things that go to make up a life.

Sit down . .Sit down
Cause you won't get away,
no with us you will stay
for the rest of your days.
So sit down as we relive our lives in what we tell you.
Let us relive our lives in what we tell you.

Home By The Sea
Genesis, 1983
Phil Collins, Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford

The lyrics of that song are so sad because it depicts how the only thing people have to do down in the netherworld to help pass the time is tell each other about their lives on earth. There is, of course, nothing to tell about their lives in Hades since the colloquialism "get a life" is a non sequitur in that place. Nobody has a life down there; nor any hope of getting one.

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Hell's Population Clock Update (22)

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44 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Using the original factor of 2,669 adult-age Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 117,436 adult-age Americans have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 2,608,012 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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Ed Viesturs is a high altitude mountaineer who's managed to summit the earth's fourteen tallest peaks without supplemental oxygen. National Geographic magazine labels him "a man on a mission". Should I applaud Mr. Viesturs? Absolutely not! Climbing those peaks was nothing less than tempting fate. And unless Mr. Viesturs is certain of his afterlife destiny, he is literally playing with fire every time he goes up.

If you would like to see something really white-knuckle scary, check out page 98 of the May 2011 issue of National Geographic magazine for a photo of Dean Potter scaling an overhang on one of the mighty granite monoliths in Yosemite National park with nothing to arrest a lethal fall but his fingertips and a bag of chalk dust.

If perchance you should go to Hell, don't go there like a fool. Stretch out the years of your life and make them last as long as you can. It's just not smart to take unnecessary risks that could result in your entering the flames before your time.

Courage is one thing; in point of fact, any fool can be courageous; but courage without honor is wasted. A courageous man who falls off a mountain that he didn't really have to climb has no honor. Why? Because he pushed his luck for no good reason. Some people aren't happy unless they're living on the edge. Dumb. They're just asking for it; and like they say : be careful what you ask for; you just might get it.

For example : 46 year-old activist Timothy Treadwell who, after living peacefully with Alaskan brown bears without weapons since the late 1980's, finally ran afoul of Murphy's Law in Oct 2003 when he was killed by a bear in Alaska's Katmai National Park. He could have lived another forty years had he not been so foolish.

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Hell's Population Clock Update (23)

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46 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Using the original factor of 2,669 adult-age Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 122,774 adult-age Americans have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 2,726,558 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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If those 2,726,558 total arrivals were, on average, roughly 20 inches wide from shoulder to shoulder, then if those 46 days-worth were laid down on the ground side by side; would create a picket roadway 860.6 miles long; which is roughly the crow-flies distance from Bagdad Iraq to Alexandria Egypt and/or from Baltimore Maryland to Mobile Alabama.

If those same people were, on average, roughly 8 inches thick (ignoring the obvious difference in men's and women's upper thorax) then 2,726,558 of them stacked on top of each other like a pile of human bricks would reach up in the sky 299 nautical miles, which is something like 106 nmi further out in space than the apogee of the orbit of the International Space Station.

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Hell's Population Clock Update (24)

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48 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Using the original factor of 2,669 adult-age Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 128,112 adult-age Americans have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 2,845,104 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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You know what can be even worse than going to Hell? Your own children following you there. Here's a cute story I heard once. I don't know if it's true but I guess it could be.

A farmer with a drinking problem went out to his barn in the dead of night after a snowfall to sneak a pull from a liquor bottle he kept hidden in the loft. Just as he got to the barn door he heard something behind him. Turning, the farmer recognized his little boy coming towards him in the dark. In amazement he asked the little guy how he ever managed to find his way out to the barn. His son replied; It was easy; I walked in your footsteps.

For some families, the only thing they have to look forward to in the afterlife is a sad reunion in fire and agony; and some will suffer even more in the knowledge that trusting kin followed them down there. For those families, it would have been better if the parents had been neutered rather than perpetuate generations for the furnaces of Hell. I sometimes wonder if death camp parents didn't suffer something akin to those kinds of feelings while watching smoke furl from the chimneys at Auschwitz and Dachau. It would have been better for them had they remained celibate than produce victims for the Nazis.

Though I sometimes like to describe the damned as fuel for the furnaces of Hell, the Bible itself doesn't portray them as kindling, but rather, as baking. Luke's narrative doesn't state that the rich man is on fire; but rather, that he's in fire.

†. Luke 16:24 . . And he called out and said: Father Abraham, have pity on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

A corresponding above-ground example would be timberland fire fighters. Their duties require them to be in fire all the time; the meanwhile trying to avoid catching on fire themselves. I would imagine timberland fire fighters would have a thing or two to say about parched tongues since that's no doubt a common experience in their line of work.

The rich man requested a fingertip of water. The koiné Greek word for "tip" in Luke 16:24 is akron (ak'-ron) which is an ambiguous word that means: extremity (cf. Mrk 13:27) and can easily indicate more than just the tip-end of a finger; but rather, the whole end of a finger; viz: the first and/or second joint. The way I see it; the man requested what amounts to a swab; which would certainly be a soothing relief in his particular circumstances.

C.L.I.F.F.
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Hell's Population Clock Update (25)

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50 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Computing with the original factor of 2,669 adult-age Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 133,450 adult-age Americans have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 2,963,650 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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†. Isa 14:12-17 . .For you said to yourself; I will ascend to heaven and set my throne above God's stars. I will preside on the mountain of the gods far away in the north. I will climb to the highest heavens and be like the Most High.

. . . But instead, you will be brought down to the place of the dead, down to its lowest depths. Everyone there will stare at you and ask : Can this be the one who shook the earth and the kingdoms of the world? Is this the one who destroyed the land and made it into a wilderness? Is this the king who demolished the world's greatest cities and had no mercy on his captives?

In context; that passage targets an ancient Babylonian king, but serves to illustrate an important point : there is no pecking order in Hell. Look around you at the celebrities, the socialites, the news anchors, the politicians, the stock brokers, the Donald Trumps, the empire builders, the financial giants, the television moguls, the movie-makers, the civic leaders, the entrepreneurs, the fashion leaders, the intellectuals, the best-sellers, the Olympic stars and professional athletes, the Lewis & Clarks, the Charles Linberghs, the Nobel Prize winners, the shuttle astronauts, the Hillary Clintons, the Barak Obamas, the Regis Philbins, the Oprah Winfrys, Congress, the Supreme Court, the winners of Oscar and Tony and Grammy awards. In the Bible's hell, those kinds of people are just one more skull in an ever-growing population of eternal losers.

†. Luke 16:19-23 . .There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham in the distance, with Lazarus by his side.

Can you just imagine that rich man's chagrin to see that homeless bum, who at one time scavenged his own garbage, now in comfort while he himself was in misery? Isn't it interesting that the bum's name is given, but the rich man's isn't. You know why? Because he's now a forgotten man who no longer matters.

†. Ps 73:2-17 . .I came so close to the edge! My feet were slipping, and I was almost gone. For I envied the proud when I saw them prosper despite their wickedness. They seem to live such a painless life; their bodies are so healthy and strong. They aren't troubled like other people or plagued with problems like everyone else. They wear conceit like a jeweled necklace, and their clothing is woven of cruelty.

. . .These fat cats have everything their hearts could ever wish for! They scoff and speak only evil; in their arrogance they seek to crush others. They boast against the very heavens, and their words strut throughout the earth . . Look at these arrogant people— enjoying a life of ease while their riches multiply . .Then one day I went into your sanctuary, O God; and I understood their destiny.

†. Ps 37:10-11 . . For yet a little while and the wicked shall be no more; indeed, you will look carefully for his place, but it shall be no more. But the meek shall inherit the earth, and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

Note : people aren't necessarily wicked because they're successful. It's success sans God that's wicked. Compare Luke 12:15-21 where a successful man is depicted as totally focused on his enterprises while not giving a single thought to his association with God.

C.L.I.F.F.
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[warfrog]

Greetings,

I for one find your mathmatical and information database outstanding, but that leads me to my thoughts.

How long does it take you, to get your calculations and where do you get your information from (regarding what you do not post directly from scripture) in many parts of the bottom of your calculations, the little tidbits.

Also i am curious to know why are you posting this?
which if you feel appropriate you can p.m me that responce if you so desire.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

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How long does it take you, to get your calculations?

At most; just a minute or two with an electronic calculator.

where do you get your information?

US population data is available here :

http://www.census.gov/population/www/popclockus.html

World population data is available here :

http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/popclockworld.html

A good site for converting just about anything to anything else is here :

http://www.onlineconversion.com/

And lots of trivial data can be found at Wikipedia's site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

i am curious to know why are you posting this?

Mostly for fun. Perdition is far more interesting when it's fleshed-out with some facts and figures; don't you think?

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[warfrog]

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At most; just a minute or two with an electronic calculator.



US population data is available here :

http://www.census.gov/population/www/popclockus.html

World population data is available here :

http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/popclockworld.html

A good site for converting just about anything to anything else is here :

http://www.onlineconversion.com/

And lots of trivial data can be found at Wikipedia's site.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page



Mostly for fun. Perdition is far more interesting when it's fleshed-out with some facts and figures; don't you think?

C.L.I.F.F.
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Thanks for the info, just for clarification, wiki info is based on information anyone can distribute to the site right? so not all information can be credited as truthful or non truthful in account?

I dont see why its harmful, if it isnt taking up alot of time and its done under recreation who am i to say its wrong or right, is putting out information based on those who will attend judgement where the second death has power going to make them go there any harder or faster? im not the judge of that, as long as names and specific details about individuals are presented that you have no actually knowledge of being in hell based off of scripture are presented, if they are you should change that and be rebuked, you do not know the judgements of the Father nor the condition of ones heart before they pass on, other than that i see no harm in this at all, but i also dont see the fruit of it either, just so you know, but again in many cases thats not something i could witness over the internet, so you seem to have the approval from the site Admin and moderators themselves.

Grace to you, peace from God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

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Hell's Population Clock Update (26)

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52 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Computing with the original factor of 2,669 adult-age Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 138,788 responsible Americans have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 3,082,196 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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"Reader, as God may grant that you from your reading, think now yourself how I could keep from weeping when I saw nearby our image so contorted that the tears from their eyes bathed their behind parts at the cleft. Truly I wept, leaning against one of the rocks of the solid cliff, so that my guide said to me: Are you like the other fools as well? Pity is alive here where it is best forgotten. Who is more impious than one who bears compassion for God's judgment?"

Dante's Divine Comedy
Inferno, cante 20, v.19-30

The sight that Dante beheld was that of fortune tellers, sorcerers, and diviners whose necks have been twisted 180 degrees so that their heads are literally on backwards. They cannot see where they're going; but only where they've been. In effect then, they're doomed to walk backwards as if it were frontwards, and frontwards as if it were backwards; the meanwhile weeping so that each one's tears obscure their eyesight and dampen their naked buttocks. Their justice is in the fact that they made their livings in life foreseeing the future via the dark arts. In Hades then, they are doomed to never see ahead again; only behind; and not even all that clearly.

The cause of Virgil's scolding is that Dante's pity for those wretched souls was all the same as questioning God's competence as a fair-mined jurist; which is not done in heaven.

†. Rev 16:5 . . And I heard the angel of the waters say : Thou art righteous, O Lord, which are, and was, and shall be, because thou hast judged thus.

†. Rev 16:7 . . And I heard another out of the altar say : Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.

†. Rev 19:1-2 . . And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying : Alleluia; salvation, and glory, and honor, and power, unto the Lord our God: for true and righteous are His judgments

The lesson is : it's okay to pity the lost while they're alive; even God does so (cf. John 3:14-17). But once they become condemned to the netherworld, the pity must stop. Compare Luke 16:19-31 where Abraham displayed not the slightest ounce of sympathy for one of his own progeny.

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Having orgasms over all those people going to hell? I suspected so. No wonder non-Christians think so little of us.

I've posted threads like this on a number of other forums over the years; and curiously I've yet to have even one non-Christian complain. No, it's always the "believers" who try to get it stopped.

One atheist I encountered was actually very helpful. He not only commended my zeal; but even gave me a link to a hell sermon on YouTube that was so intense it scared even me!

It's been my experience over the years that non-Christians think so little of Christians because they're hypocrites who not only don't practice what they preach, but often don't even believe what they preach.

C.L.I.F.F.
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Hell's Population Clock Update (27)

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54 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Computing with the original factor of 2,669 responsible Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 144,126 responsible Americans have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 3,200,742 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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†. Mtt 10:28 . . And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

One of Webster's definitions of "destroy" is: to ruin the structure, the organic existence, or the condition of; also: to ruin as if by tearing to shreds

The koiné Greek word for "destroy" in Mtt 10:28 is apollumi (ap-ol'-loo-mee); which means: to destroy fully; (reflexively: to perish, or lose); literally or figuratively.

Anti-hell Christians would like nothing better than to restrict apollumi's meaning to rendering something non-existent. However, apollumi is an ambiguous word that can be taken more than one way. Primarily, apollumi doesn't mean to render something non-existent; no, it mostly means to wreck something beyond repair; viz: to total it out, to ruin it; viz: to render it either unrecognizable and/or unsuitable for its intended purpose; e.g. the World Trade Center. The twin towers were destroyed, yes, but the materials that constructed them didn't go out of existence, no, they were all still right there at ground zero after the dust settled— all the concrete, all the glass, all the plastics, and all the metals. But instead of being neatly assembled in the shape of fully-functioning buildings, the materials were converted into a pile of rubble.

That's the interpretation of apollumi that pro-hell people prefer; because a destruction of that nature leaves the damned disabled, but doesn't remove them from existence; rather, it leaves them permanently disfigured.

During the Lord's ordeal, his face was so badly battered that it was difficult to tell it was even a man's.

†. Isa 52:14-15 . . Many were amazed when they saw him— beaten and bloodied; so disfigured one would scarcely know he was human.

If God would permit the world to inflict that degree of physical injury upon His kin for their own sake; then just think what He himself will inflict upon those of the world who fail to appreciate it.

†. Heb 10:29-31 . .Think how much more terrible the punishment will be for those who have trampled on the Son of God and have treated the blood of the covenant as if it were common and unholy. Such people have insulted and enraged the Holy Spirit who brings God's mercy to his people. For we know the one who said; I will take vengeance. I will repay those who deserve it. It is a terrible thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Since that's the case, it's highly probable that by the time many folks' judgments are finished, they will be cast into Rev 20:11-15's reservoir of liquefied flame as human hamburger meat, giving the molten impoundment the appearance of an apple-bobbing tub what with thousands of bloodied people floating around in it.

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Hello;

According to the Lord's testimony as an expert witness in all matters pertaining to the afterlife; the majority of earth's accountable human beings haven't been making it to safety when they cross over to the other side.

†. Luke 13:22-24 . . And he went through the cities and villages, teaching, and journeying toward Jerusalem. Then said one unto him, master, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them: Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

†. Mtt 7:13-14 . . Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

†. Mtt 22:14 . . For many are invited, but few are chosen.

Webster's defines "many" as: consisting of, or amounting to, a large but indefinite number; while "few" is defined as: consisting of, or amounting to, only a small number; viz : not many; i.e. some, but indeterminately small in number

According to Webster's then; few means a small percentage, and many means a large percentage; in other words : many = the majority. Bear with me while I flesh this out.

As of Mar 21, 2011 @ 08:12 pm New York time, there were approximately 311,024,970 people alive in the USA with a death rate of approximately one every 11 seconds; which amounts to an average of 7,854 American deaths of all ages during just one 24-hour civil day.

Allowing for say, 1/3rd of those 7,854 daily USA deaths to be minors, would leave 5,235 adult-age Americans crossing over to the other side every day.

Giving the "few" the benefit of the doubt by setting their maximum percentage at 49%, would indicate that 51% of those 5,235 equals 2,669 Americans transferring to perdition each day— roughly 111 souls per hour.

That's a very conservative estimate as the Lord didn't really specify exact percentages to represent the quantities of few and many. Just think; by the time CBS completes its half-hour evening news report, a bare-bones minimum of 55 Americans cross over to the Bible's hell.

Using the ratio of 2,669 condemned souls per 311,024,970 population : computing the number of condemned souls worldwide from a currently estimated population of 6,907,246,256 people, rounds out to something like 59,273 new arrivals in the Bible's Hell every 24 hours; in other words : 2,470 souls every sixty minutes on the clock.

Those numbers would fill the new 51,800 seat Yankee Stadium to capacity in roughly 20 hours and 58 minutes. In other words, if those 59,273 souls started filling the stadium at 6:00 am this morning; by 2:58 am tomorrow, the stadium would be full. Meanwhile, another 59,273 would be outside in line ready to take their place.

Christmas and New Year's are even worse. A study done of 26 years of death certificates shows that coronary fatalities are, on average, 11.9% higher on those days than any other days of the year; with non-heart deaths spiking to 12.2% higher; and believe me folks, the Bible's God makes no exceptions for those holidays; no, none at all. Souls never stop cascading into the dungeons of Hell in an endless stream like chocolate kisses flowing on a Hershey's conveyor belt.

C.L.I.F.F.
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--Elijah here:
We seem to disagree on individual's LOVE? God call's it His Strange act. It seems that one would be very sorrowful at these ones choice? Not happy or gloatful as it appears with some?

And your discription??
Anyway: God tel's of these ones of Heb. 6:1-6 having once been given the Holy Spirit. (MADE PARTAKERS!) And then making fatal Decisions in verse 6! And Obad. 1 finds this type of attitude displayed by these ones who were actualy at one time 'upon His Holy Mountain spiritually' and THEIR 'FINAL' ENDING.

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[12] But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that [he became] a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.

[13] Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity;

[14] Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress.

[15] For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: [ as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee]: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
[16] For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and [they shall be as though they had not been].

 

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Hell's Population Clock Update (28)

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56 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Computing with the original factor of 2,669 responsible Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 149,464 U.S. residents have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 3,319,288 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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†. Mrk 9:43-48 . . If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into geena, where the fire never goes out. And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life crippled than to have two feet and be thrown into geena. And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to have two eyes and be thrown into geena, where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.

The "worm" of Mrk 9:43-48 was predicted in the Old Testament.

†. Isa 66:23-24 . . All humanity will come to worship me from week to week and from month to month. And as they go out, they will see the dead bodies of those who have rebelled against me. For the worms that devour them will never die, and the fire that burns them will never go out. All who pass by will view them with utter horror.

In order for the worms to enjoy a perpetual buffet would require that the flesh they consume off people's corpses somehow regenerate itself for re-consumption, which reminds me of a scene from Dante's Divine Comedy, the Inferno, canto XXIV.

The spirits of sinners— whose lives were characterized by theft —are depicted naked, and their hands tied behind them with a serpent whose head and tail are threaded through their body at the loins and tied in coils and knots at the front. Another serpent sinks its fangs in the neck of the spirit, who immediately bursts into flame, burns to ashes, and falls to the ground; only to resume its shape and its torment once again.

Upon regaining consciousness, the sinner is bewildered by what has happened as one who has been the victim of a seizure of some kind; and the serpents are right there waiting on him to steal from the thief as he stole from others. Since the only thing he owns in Hell is his soul, they steal that : over and over again.

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Hell's Population Clock Update (29)

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58 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Computing with the original factor of 2,669 responsible Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 154,802 U.S. residents have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 3,437,834 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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FAQ : People in hell are to be there forever. Does that mean they have eternal life?

Answer : No; people in hell are there with human life rather than eternal life.

It's very common to mistake eternal life for longevity; but that's not really it. Had Adam eaten from the tree of life back in the beginning, it would have extended his youth and prevented him from dying of natural causes; but it would not have given him eternal life because eternal life is a kind of life that had no beginning; but Adam clearly did.

If somebody can understand what animal life, bird life, aquatic life, and/or human life is, then they can understand what eternal life is. It's a supernatural quality of life that exists nowhere in nature but rather, exists only in God; which is exactly what God conveyed when He identified himself to the people of Israel by saying :

And Moses said unto God : Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them "The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you" and they shall say to me "What is his name?" what shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses : I Am that I Am. And he said : Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel : I Am hath sent me unto you. (Ex 3:13-14)

†. 1John 1:1-2 . .That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (for the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and show unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us)

The Bible's Christ is the designated distributor of eternal life; and he only gives it to a very select category of people identified as those God has given him.

†. John 17:2-3 . .You have given your son authority over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as you have given him.

People to whom the Lord bestows eternal life do not go to hades with it.

†. John 5:24 . . I assure you, those who heed my message, and believe in God who sent me, have eternal life. They will never be condemned for their sins, but they have already passed from death into life.

†. John 10:27-28 . .My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish.

Today, the Bible's Jesus not only has eternal life, but he also has immortality (John 5:26, Rom 6:9, 1Tim 6:14-16, Rev 1:18). So that now you could place the Lord's body at ground zero of a nuclear detonation and it would neither die nor even suffer burns, because the Bible's Jesus now has a supernatural kind of body that simply cannot be injured. (1Cor 15:35-54)

But for the people in hades, it's a different story. They are feeling pain and thirst, and they exist in a form that is both recognizable and capable of sight and speech (Isa 14:4-11, Lk 16:19-31). The precise nature of their netherworld existence is yet unknown, but I seriously doubt it's flesh and blood since an Adamic human body wouldn't survive for very long in a flaming environment.

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Hell's Population Clock Update (30)

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60 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Computing with the original factor of 2,669 responsible Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 160,140 U.S. residents have passed through the gates of Hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 3,556,380 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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In the stressful society of Hades; it's reasonable to expect quarrels, bickering, hard feelings, vendettas, rivalry, selfishness, insensitivity, irritation, aggravation, and ugly words exchanged between people. Is there really any good reason down there to be courteous and/or respect your fellow man's human rights in the Bible's hell; or to be kind, forgiving, affable, genial, courteous, cordial, charitable, altruistic, tolerant, sympathetic, honest, generous, and patient?

I was once discussing the netherworld with a co-worker and he said: "Hell won't be so bad; I'll have plenty of friends down there". No he won't.

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Hell's Population Clock Update (31)

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62 days have elapsed since beginning the topic on Mar 21, 2011.

Computing with the original factor of 2,669 responsible Americans transferring to perdition per each 24-hour civil day, suggests that 165,478 U.S. residents have passed through the gates of hades just since beginning the topic.

The world-wide total, based upon the original factor of 59,273 condemned souls per 24-hour civil day, suggests 3,674,926 total arrivals in perdition since beginning the topic . . . and the clock is still ticking.
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And Sinon, who perhaps took offense at being named so rudely, struck Adam's rigid belly with his fist so that it resounded like a drum; and Master Adam struck Sino in the face with his arm, which seemed no softer, saying to him : I have an arm free for such a situation, though I am kept from moving by my heavy limbs. At which Simon answered : You were not so ready with it going to the fire, but as ready and readier when you were counterfeiting coin.

And he of the dropsy said : You speak truth in that, but you were not so truthful a witness there when you were questioned about the truth at Troy. If I spoke falsely, you falsified the coin; Sinon said; and I am here for the one crime, but you for more than any other devil. He who had the swollen belly answered : Think of the Wooden Horse, you liar, and let it be a torment to you that all the world knows of it.

The Greek replied : Let the thirst that cracks the tongue be your torture, and the foul water make your stomach a barrier in front of your eyes. Then the coiner : Your mouth gapes wide as usual, to speak ill. If I have thirst, the moisture swells me, you have the burning, and a head that hurts you; and you would not need many words of invitation to lap at the mirror of Narcissus.

Dante's Divine Comedy
Inferno, canto XXX, v. 100-129

What's taking place in that scene? Answer : recriminations; which can be roughly defined as countering an accusation with an accusation.

Recriminations are futile. If somebody's conduct merits criticism, then it merits criticism regardless of their accuser's faults. Though retaliating by pointing out your accusers faults (a favorite with politicians) may seem an intelligent tactic during a quarrel; in reality, recriminations are a childish defense, and do nothing to change the facts and/or mitigate one's own culpability. You can neither diminish, nor delete the responsibility for your own conduct by pointing the finger at someone else's shortcomings; but I see people on internet forums passing themselves off as Christians doing that very thing all the time by quoting Mtt 7:3-5 and John 8:7 as if those passages somehow grant them immunity from scrutiny.

Recriminators are selfish cowards in that they lack the integrity to bravely face the music for their own their sins without dragging somebody down with them.

The ironic thing about those two men in the Comedy is that they are incarcerated together down on the very same level in hades dedicated to punishing falsifiers and it is therefore comical to watch the two debate about whose punishment is more deserved; the meanwhile slugging each other like two little boys in a punch-out.

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