It is silly to post such a reply that is preceded by the declaration , of course he isn't! (God)
When everything there says otherwise.
Of course He isn’t the Father... is what I was referring to.
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It is silly to post such a reply that is preceded by the declaration , of course he isn't! (God)
When everything there says otherwise.
Curious as I was just made aware of this recently. Is this how the rule of prohibition concerning OSAS had its genesis? Nonsense like that which seeks to argue against the truth to the point such chaos arrives as to make a topic that garners the attention of that which brings chaos forbidden?
Jesus name at his birth was to be Emmanuel, as decreed by God to the angel Gabriel that then related that message to young Mary should she agree to be covered by the holy spirit, which is God, God being the verb in the scriptures, the creative action, while the creator is the one and only spirit that is holy. Emmanuel means, as God said, God with us.
No such name of God as Jehovah.
That’s a perversion of the name of the Lord.
Joel 2 is YHWH which Paul quoted.
It’s that simple.
If you disagree that Joel uses YHWH for Lord then so be it.
God bless
JLB
How do you pronounce YHWH? Why was it necessary for the Masoretes of the 6th and 7th centuries AD to insert vowels in YHWH?
This is the man Christ Jesus speaking of His purpose while on earth.
The Father is God.
The Son is God.
The Holy Spirit is God.
I don’t know if that is Orthodox or not.
JLB
- Jesus' baptism—Matthew 3:13-17 (voice of the Father, Son baptized, Spirit descending like a dove).
- Salvation—1 Peter 1:2 (chosen by the Father, sanctified by the Spirit, sprinkled with the blood of Jesus).
- Sanctification—2 Corinthians 13:14 (grace of the Lord Jesus, love of God, fellowship of the Holy Spirit).
- Christian Baptism—Matthew 28:19 (baptized in one name, yet three Persons—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit).
- Prayer—Ephesians 3:14-21 (strengthened by his Spirit, know the love of Christ, filled with the fullness of God).
- Christian Growth—2 Thessalonians 2:13 (chosen by God, loved by the Lord, sanctified by the Spirit) [God in Three Persons: A Doctrine We Barely Understand, Ray Pritchard]
It says the Son can only do what he sees the Father doing. Logically, if the Son created the universe, he would have been doing what he saw the Father doing. The Son obeys the Father. Whatever the Father does, the Son does likewise. Pr. says he was like a master workman. So the Son accomplished on earth what the Father did in heaven.
To put it another way, the Son was the way God the Father created the universe.
Are you associated with orthodox (not Orthodox) evangelical Christianity?
What you have stated here most certainly is part of the explanation of the orthodox view of God. However, we need to explain the relationship among Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
Are they 3 separate persons or 3 separate modes or manifestations of existence OR something else?
These Scriptures confirm the separate persons and functions of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. How does that line up with the theology you accept of the Father being God, Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God?
JLB,
Are you associated with orthodox (not Orthodox) evangelical Christianity?
What you have stated here most certainly is part of the explanation of the orthodox view of God. However, we need to explain the relationship among Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
Are they 3 separate persons or 3 separate modes or manifestations of existence OR something else?
In your view, how do Father, Son and Holy Spirit related to one another?
Would you agree or disagree with this assessment?
All three Persons are associated together on an equal basis in numerous passages:
These Scriptures confirm the separate persons and functions of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. How does that line up with the theology you accept of the Father being God, Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God?
Oz
I simply don’t know.
If you want to add vowels to YHWH, add these.
YĕHoWsHuwa
JLB
One of the frequent cases was the tetragrammaton [YHWH], which according to later Jewish practices should not be pronounced but read as "Adonai" ("My Lord"), or, if the previous or next word already was Adonai, as "Elohim" ("God"). The combination produces יְהֹוָה and יֱהֹוִה respectively, non-words that would spell "Yehovah" and "Yehovih" respectively.....
Yahweh
Wilhelm Gesenius's Hebrew punctuation (i.e., Yahweh)
Tetragrammaton (with the vowel points for Adonai) on a Wittenberg University debate lectern
The Hebrew scholar Wilhelm Gesenius [1786–1842] suggested that the Hebrew punctuation יַהְוֶה, which is transliterated into English as Yahweh, might more accurately represent the pronunciation of the tetragrammaton than the Biblical Hebrew punctuation "יְהֹוָה", from which the English name Jehovah has been derived. His proposal to read YHWH as "יַהְוֶה" ... was based in large part on various Greek transcriptions, such as ιαβε, dating from the first centuries CE but also on the forms of theophoric names. In his Hebrew Dictionary, Gesenius supports Yahweh (which would have been pronounced [jahwe], with the final letter being silent) because of the Samaritan pronunciation Ιαβε reported by Theodoret [Tetragrammaton, Wikipedia].
In English,
's' is not a vowel;
'h' is not a vowel;
'w' is not a vowel.
The vowels the Jewish Masoretes, 6th-10th centuries, added so that YHWH could be pronounced were:
Oz
Again, your quote was a reference to the Man Jesus Christ, while He was on earth.
The Son created all things before He became flesh.
Before all things.
The Son is before all things.
- He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or [e]principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. Colossians 1:15-17
JLB
Hebrews says God created the world through his Son. Heb. 1:2
You agree that the Son was with God in the beginning, so what makes you think it was different back then before he was made flesh?
Jesus' statement is true. “Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of his own accord, but only what he sees the Father doing; for whatever he does, that the Son does likewise.
I don’t know what that is.
What does Yahweh mean in the Bible ?
I would like to ask you a question, and I invite anyone to answer it.
Based on the flowing scripture, that says the Lord YHWH, is coming with the saints, do you believe the Father or the Son is coming with the saints on that Day?
Thus the Lord my God will come, and all the saints with You.
Zechariah 14:5
JLB