How to Find False Prophets Using Scripture

[felix]

I want all to see what sort of person assumes the right to beat and whip other believers? ...

The person who has the same zeal as Christ, will do what Christ did and taught.

 

[Mitspa]

The person who has the same zeal as Christ, will do what Christ did and taught.

So, you have the Zeal of Christ? I know Christ and you have nothing in common with Him. I think you have more in common with anti-christ. the accuser of the brothern.

I have already judged you, in the spirit. troy

 

[reba]

Enough bashing others... on all sides good grief guys .... Christians can have differing views and still be in the arms of Christ.

 

[Guest]

Reba, this thread is about discerning false christians. Felix not once has showed me a verse about eternal salvation and life. Read the OP.

 

[Mitspa]

Enough bashing others... on all sides good grief guys .... Christians can have differing views and still be in the arms of Christ.

Its getting bedtime for me anyway. You know you could let me wear one of these "whip snappers" out sometime? It seems you always come in and save them from the beating they give to others everytime? I guess thats your job?

 

[reba]

Bothers me when I see Christians acting up....



Mitspa I just noticed I posted just after you again.... I was reading farther down the page when I decided that was enough... I guess I shouldn't find that so funny...

 

[reba]

The true Jesus Christ who I worship will:

• Feeds the birds with human flesh (Rev 19:17-18)
• Curses cities and towns (Luke 10:13)
• Make the body feed with worms (Acts 12:23)
• Destroys fornicators (1Cor 3:16-17)
• Hates people like Easu (Rom 9:13)
• Kill children (Rev 2:21-23)
• Vomit fake Christians (Rev 3:15-16)

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Is this the only side of God you know Felix? Here is some more of Him

Joh_10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Luk 12:24 Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls?
Joh_13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.


Luk_23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.


1Jn_1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

 

[felix]

Is this the only side of God you know Felix? Here is some more of Him

Joh_10:11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Luk 12:24 Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls?
Joh_13:35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.


Luk_23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.


1Jn_1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

God does not have multiple faces or multiple sides.

Mal 3:6 " For I [am] the LORD, I do not change; Therefore you are not consumed, O sons of Jacob.

It is people's misunderstanding that under grace everything is relaxed. No. It was His period on earth where He lived a holy and righteous life like a servant to show the way how to live without blemish before God. Listen to the warnings of Christ for 6/7 churches.

At one point, He gives "time" for her to repent. (this is not a unbeliever but a believer who knows God and proclaims herself as prophetess). Which is why Christ Himself patiently waits and gives time for her to repent.

Rev 2:21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent.
Rev 2:22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds.
Rev 2:23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

Which is consistent with the parable He spoke:

Luke 13:6 He also spoke this parable: "A certain [man] had a fig tree planted in his vineyard, and he came seeking fruit on it and found none.
Luke 13:7 Then he said to the keeper of his vineyard, 'Look, for three years I have come seeking fruit on this fig tree and find none. Cut it down; why does it use up the ground?'
Luke 13:8 But he answered and said to him, 'Sir, let it alone this year also, until I dig around it and fertilize [it.]
Luke 13:9 And if it bears fruit, [well.] But if not, after that you can cut it down.'"

Yet, most people want to believe what they want to believe rather than what the Bible actually teaches. I also haven't got any reply for #71.

 

[proveallthings]

A false prophet to me is one who does not teach/preach on how to obtain salvation in this lifetime and eternal life after death with the scriptures that have been give to us but still preaches Jesus. What is a false prophet to you?

There is only one specific formula given in the New Testament to discern between true and false prophets. It was given by Jesus himself. See Matt. 7:15-20.

 

[Guest]

There is only one specific formula given in the New Testament to discern between true and false prophets. It was given by Jesus himself. See Matt. 7:15-20. Anything else is just guessing and interpretation.

Whether there's only one specific formula in the Bible or not, the false prophet uses many formulas and schemes to question your faith sir. I've only been on this forum for two months and I've already come across three 'christians' that are twisting scripture and adding and taking away from it as they please. The fact is, is that you came in late on this thread so let me catch you up on my past couple months..

False P#1 - Believes Hell exists but no torment/note: those not saved ARE the wicked and accursed ones
False P#2 - Believes in obeying Christ, but no eternal salvation
False P#3 - Believes that angels are aliens and not from God

 

[Mitspa]

There is only one specific formula given in the New Testament to discern between true and false prophets. It was given by Jesus himself. See Matt. 7:15-20. Anything else is just guessing and interpretation.

So we are just to ignore all Pauls, Peters, Johns, etc.. warnings about those false phophets and teachers? No! all the scriptures are true all the time. All are given to us "believers" by the Holy Spirit and are to be considered . As a matter of fact if one does not understand Pauls gospel, they can never understand those who teach a false gospel.

 

[Mitspa]

Felix, you hit the nail right on the head. The formula should work today the same as in Biblical times. Christ and the apostles taught doctrine that was radical to the scripture quoting Jews of their time. If they tested whether John the Baptist, Jesus or Peter were true prophets by whether they agreed with their interpretation of the scriptures, they would never discover the full gospel offered by Christ. That was Saul's problem before he had his encounter with Christ.

Sauls problem was he was a legalistic angry man, who thought he was doing gods work in destroying Gods people. Sauls battle was against the grace and goodness of God. But he had murder in his heart for those God had given His sure mercy.
I do not see any understanding of Christ nor His teachings nor those of the Apostles in any of felix's post, nor yours for that matter. Different Jesus, different spirit, and a different gospel, is what I see.

 

[felix]

Sauls problem was he was a legalistic angry man, who thought he was doing gods work in destroying Gods people. Sauls battle was against the grace and goodness of God. But he had murder in his heart for those God had given His sure mercy.
I do not see any understanding of Christ nor His teachings nor those of the Apostles in any of felix's post, nor yours for that matter. Different Jesus, different spirit, and a different gospel, is what I see.

Yes, you are right: Different Jesus and different gospel. I was referring to Christ who spoke in Matt. 7:15-20 which is not the same Jesus you are referring to.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

New Testament (except Revelation) is not Scripture. Neither Christ nor Apostles or disciples who wrote them referred to their own letters as Scripture.
Scripture always includes only the Old Testament.

2 Peter 3 NASB
14 Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless.
15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation ; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you
16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
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I'm afraid Peter doesn't agree with you.

 

[reba]

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[Agape]

2 Peter 3 NASB
14 Therefore, beloved, since you look for these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, spotless and blameless.
15 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation ; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you
16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
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I'm afraid Peter doesn't agree with you.

LOL, just noticed we used the same text. ;)

 

[Deborah13]

Felix, you hit the nail right on the head. The formula should work today the same as in Biblical times. Christ and the apostles taught doctrine that was radical to the scripture quoting Jews of their time. If they tested whether John the Baptist, Jesus or Peter were true prophets by whether they agreed with their interpretation of the scriptures, they would never discover the full gospel offered by Christ. That was Saul's problem before he had his encounter with Christ.

Unfortunately, Christ disagrees with you. It is not what they preach but what "fruits" they bear.

So what is the fruit of the Spirit? LOVE

 

[reba]

Doing some clean up guys... posts will be deleted


Getting off topic and throwing barbs and snarks sure ends up making a thread less readable..

 

[Mitspa]

This is how we KNOW those who are Christ? They have love one for another. They even love the sinner.

 

[Guest]

This is how we KNOW those who are Christ? They have love one for another. They even love the sinner. .

I second that love , I hate the devil but I love the sinner.