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Jesus Died For You To Be Saved

brightfame52 said:
Salvation from Christ is eternal and cant be lost. Heb 9 12

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Heb 5:9

And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

His Salvation causes obedience and its eternal.
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Immortality is conditional in Scripture and we don't have it yet. Yes, this inheritance can be lost. There is a judgement coming that each one will attend. After that, one may get eternal life or otherwise.

Romans 2
5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
 
Runningman said:
Immortality is conditional in Scripture and we don't have it yet. Yes, this inheritance can be lost. There is a judgement coming that each one will attend. After that, one may get eternal life or otherwise.

Romans 2
5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
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The RCC teaches that God breathed into a body an immortal soul.
Then they go around trying to save souls that are immortal and therefore never die.
They can’t see their own contradictions. A soul that never dies doesn’t need saving. So bring all your missionaries home.
 
Runningman said:
Immortality is conditional in Scripture and we don't have it yet. Yes, this inheritance can be lost. There is a judgement coming that each one will attend. After that, one may get eternal life or otherwise.

Romans 2
5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
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Salvation from Christ is eternal and cant be lost. Heb 9 12

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Heb 5:9

And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

His Salvation causes obedience and its eternal.
 
brightfame52 said:
Salvation from Christ is eternal and cant be lost. Heb 9 12

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Heb 5:9

And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

His Salvation causes obedience and its eternal.
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The entering into the holy place was to obtain eternal redemption for himself so that others may enter afterwards or follow him.
“For us” is not in the Greek.
 
brightfame52 said:
Salvation from Christ is eternal and cant be lost. Heb 9 12

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
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If you are "walking" in the light (being holy, righteous, etc) then there is a sacrifice for sins available.

1 John 1
7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
brightfame52 said:
Heb 5:9

And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
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Hebrews 5:9 places "obedience" as a condition on eternal life.
brightfame52 said:
His Salvation causes obedience and its eternal.
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Tell that to Judas who was a believer, given to Jesus, and was lost after all.
 
LeviR said:
The RCC teaches that God breathed into a body an immortal soul.
Then they go around trying to save souls that are immortal and therefore never die.
They can’t see their own contradictions. A soul that never dies doesn’t need saving. So bring all your missionaries home.
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Yes, it's a contradiction. How can they have an immortal soul if only those who obey the gospel receive eternal life.
 
Hopeful 2 said:
That prayer will save nobody.
Where was the repentance from sin ?
Where was the washing away of past sins ?
Where is the mentioning of enduring faithfully until the end ?
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Also, where was a requirement for a belief in a supreme being mentioned?
 
LeviR said:
The entering into the holy place was to obtain eternal redemption for himself so that others may enter afterwards or follow him.
“For us” is not in the Greek.
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Doesnt matter if it isnt in the greek, its still was for them He died for. Just like the High Priest, when He went into the Holy Place it was as a Representative for the good of the People. Christ personally didnt need redemption. Redemption means λύτρωσιν:

  1. a ransoming, redemption
  2. deliverance, esp. from the penalty of sin

Those He secured redemption for, they ar forever delivered from the penalty of sin !
 
Runningman said:
If you are "walking" in the light (being holy, righteous, etc) then there is a sacrifice for sins available.

1 John 1
7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Hebrews 5:9 places "obedience" as a condition on eternal life.

Tell that to Judas who was a believer, given to Jesus, and was lost after all.
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Salvation from Christ is eternal and cant be lost. Heb 9 12

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Heb 5:9

And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

His Salvation causes obedience and its eternal.
 
rstrats said:
To whom is "his people" referring?
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His Church Eph 5:25-27

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
 
brightfame52 said:
Salvation from Christ is eternal and cant be lost. Heb 9 12

Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

Heb 5:9

And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

His Salvation causes obedience and its eternal.
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What's your work around for everything I have shown so far that doesn't work with what you're saying?

These people who were once joined with Christ, became estranged or severed from Christ, and fell from grace.

Galatians 5
4You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
 
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