Justified while Ungodly !

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deb

So funny to ignore the rest of what Spurgeon, he says, that that idea is
"Absurd, indeed!"

I am not talking about what spurgeon said, but what the scripture said.

That Right. That's why its the Gospel of their Salvation they believe in. Eph 1:13

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

If they were not already saved by Christ, it would not be the Gospel of their salvation they heard.

 

[Deborah13]

If they were not already saved by Christ, it would not be the Gospel of their salvation they heard.

So everyone that hears the word of truth, the gospel, is saved?

Now this scriptures pretty clear isn't it?

John12 YLT
32 and I, if I may be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto myself.'

So by the way you interpreted that last scripture you would agree that Jesus "will draw ALL men" so ALL men will be saved?

Or how about this one?

Revelation 3:20
lo, I have stood at the door, and I knock; if any one may hear my voice, and may open the door, I will come in unto him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

So I suppose that hearing the knock one will always open the door? Why would Jesus be knocking if they are already saved? Why would the apostles preach if all are saved already?

 

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Deborah

So everyone that hears the word of truth, the gospel, is saved?

That's not what I stated or what the scripture says. it reads Eph 1:13

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Yes, everyone who hears the Gospel of their salvation is saved !

 

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A Declarative Justification !

Those in modern day false religion do deny that there is a Justification of those Christ died for apart from their God given Faith, of which the scripture does teach. One of the teachings of scripture to a declarative Justification before God is that of non imputation of sin. If God does not charge a people with sin, then He by that Justifieth them Per Rom 8:33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

The reason for the inquiry who shall lay any charges against God's Elect is to bring notice to the fact that God has not ! Why ? Because of non imputation of sin. Lets look at Rom 4:8

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

This applies to everyone Christ died for, because He was imputed with their sins, and so they are not ! Because of that, they acquitted from all sin, by non imputation.

This blessed man or men are Justified / Blessed because God will not count their sins against them in a way of condemnation now or in the Judgment. This also applies to a whole World of Blessed men and women 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

John Gill comment:

not imputing their trespasses. This was what he resolved upon from all eternity, that inasmuch as Christ was become the surety and substitute of his people, he would not impute their sins to them, or look for satisfaction for them from them; but would reckon and place them to the account of their surety, and expect satisfaction from him; and accordingly he did, and accordingly he had it. And this will, not to impute sin to his people, or not to punish for it, which existed in God from everlasting, is no other than a justification of them; for to whom the Lord does not impute sin, he imputes righteousness, and such are properly justified.

And so the World of 2 Cor 5:19 because of non imputation of sin is Justified by God Rom 8:33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Note: Those Persons reconciled to God by the Death of His Son, even while they are being enemies or unbelievers, God does not count their sins against them while they are being enemies 2 Cor 5:19 !105

 

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A Declarative Justification !2


Secondly, there is a Declarative Justification before God, apart from one's God given Faith, not only by Non Imputation of their sins, but also by Imputation of their sins to Christ Isa 53:6

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

That word laid means to cause to fall upon Him,to meet upon Him or to strike the mark !

Thats why the World Christ died for did not have its sins imputed to it 2 Cor 5:19; Rom 4:8 because their sins, trespasses, offense's, iniquities were caused to meet on Christ.

God the Father determined before the foundation of the World, not to charge, impute their sins and condemnation to them, but to lay them on Christ instead.

So the reason is once again answered as to why God did not charge His Elect Rom 8:33 and look at Rom 8:34a

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Because it was for Christ to die for their sins instead. He died for them because He was charged with them instead of them, so He bare their sins Isa 53:11-12

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

The word bare in Vs 11 is the hebrew word cabal

to bear, bear a load, drag oneself along

a) (Qal) to bear (a load)

b) (Pual) laden (participle)

c) (Hithpael) to make oneself a burden, drag oneself along

He received the penalties that the ones He died for deserved !

But notice the results of baring their sins, He made them to be accounted Righteous or He Justified many, and this Justification is based solely upon His baring their sins that were imputed to Him !

ESV Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities.

So God declares Righteous or Justified those whom sins were imputed to Christ for Him to bare in their stead !

 

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A Declarative Justification !3

And thirdly, We know that His Death alone Justified them apart from their God given Faith because of the declaration of the resurrection, for since He died not for His own sins and offenses, but as the Representative of those He died for, He rose as that same Representative, and as He was declared acquitted or Justified for His Faithfulness unto death, His death not being for Himself, but for those he died in the stead of, then it was they which were discharged, acquitted and Justified, as declared by His Resurrection. Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for [because of] our offenses, and was raised again for[because of] our justification.

YLT 25 who was delivered up because of our offenses, and was raised up because of our being declared righteous.


This Justification of those Christ died for, had nothing to do with them believing, repenting, or doing anything; In fact its True of them even while they are being enemies in unbelief ! To deny this, is to deny the Gospel of Grace, Salvation by Grace !107

 

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Declared to God given Faith ! 4

Now God given Faith, given in the New Birth, for Faith that Pleases God is not found in the natural man, to it is revealed their declared Justification by the Gospel sent to them Rom 1:16-17

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

17 For therein is the righteousness of God[Our Justification] revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

The word Righteousness and the Word Just are basically the same word in the original both derived from the word dikaios:

righteous, observing divine laws

a) in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God

1) of those who seem to themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves in their virtues, whether real or imagined

2) innocent, faultless, guiltless

3) used of him whose way of thinking, feeling, and acting is wholly conformed to the will of God, and who therefore needs no rectification in the heart or life

a) only Christ truly

4) approved of or acceptable of God

b) in a narrower sense, rendering to each his due and that in a judicial sense, passing just judgment on others, whether expressed in words or shown by the manner of dealing with them

The Knowledge of their Righteousness / Justification before God is revealed to them by the Gospel, and that this was an Matter of fact outside of themselves, and hence they now believe the Truth of it which is the Gospel of their Salvation Eph 1:13. The Gospel in the matter of Salvation is not sent to people to put them in a position to perform a duty or an act to get saved, but its to reveal or make known the Good News of what Christ has accomplished and Established on ones behalf; Because Christ was delivered up unto Death and Divine Justice in their stead and for their transgressions, and when the Law released Him, it was a notification of their discharge; and the Spirit enlightens all those Christ died for of their Justification by Christ's Righteousness charged to them, and so it comes to past that the Just shall live by Faith. The Spirit takes of Christ's [ What He accomplished via His Death / Blood for them]and shows it to them or reveals it to them in or by the Gospel; and it is then God given Faith receives, embraces, appropriates this REVELATION as their Justification and Righteousness before God, and now before their own purged conscience. Heb 9:14

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?108

 

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Justified from all things !

Acts 13:39

And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

The Nature of the Justification that Christ gives to all for whom He died, all the Elect of God or His Body the Church, its Justification from all things which means:

They are Justified from their Transgression in Adam their Natural Head Rom 5:12

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

They are Justified from all actual Transgressions they begin t commit from the womb, before conversion and also after conversion.

They are Justified from all their present impurities in the flesh, Yes they are Justified in the court of God's Justice and Righteousness against anything anyone can bring against them even as a legitimate charge !


Illustrated by Joshua the High Priest who had on filthy garments ! Zech 3:1-4

And he shewed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.

2 And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.

4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.

All for whom Christ died, the Israel of God, He has taken away their Iniquities from before the Justice of God !109

 

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What About Heb 1:3


All for whom Christ died, are by His Death/Blood Alone, Justified before God from all sin, this can be concluded also by Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

What sins ? These sins that were charged to Him 1 Cor 15:3

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Now the sins of all for whom He died, He hath purged them away. That word purged means:

a cleansing from the guilt of sins wrought by the expiatory sacrifice of Christ

Now actually, by Imputation, the Guilt of the sins of those Christ died for, is gone, done away with by the Offering of Christ.

All for whom He died therefore are Justified from all guilt of their sins !

It has been purged out of the sight of God and His Law, hence they are Justified, and none of these can ever die in their sins Jn 8:24

24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

This also means that those Christ has died for and purged away their guilt before God, will not always remain Unbelievers, for only those whom Christ did not die for shall continue in Unbelief and consequently die in their sins or will be found in them at His Coming !

This purging of their sins was done by Himself, not by anything they for whom He died for did or done !110

 

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Justified the Ungodly !

Though it is hotly denied by religionists, all those Christ died for are Justified before God solely on Christ's Death Merits, while they in and of themselves are sinners, ungodly, and enemies in their minds towards Him. They are while enemies forgiven of all Transgressions against God's Law, free from any curse of the law Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law[HOW], being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

That's how they are redeemed from the curse of the Law, not by believing, not by repenting, not by anything they did at all, but by Him being made a curse for them, meaning His Death !

So through His Death, they are , even while ungodly in themselves, Justified before God's law as through they never sinned. This Justification is made evident by Christ's Resurrection from the deadRom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for[because of] our offences[transgressions, iniquities], and was raised again for[because of] our justification.

All this while they in themselves are being Ungodly ! The Natural Man cannot comprehend this Grace !111

 

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Justified by His Blood ! Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood[Knowing it by Faith], we shall be saved from wrath through him.

This is one verse the adversaries of Truth cannot deny, even though they do, which is that those Christ died for are Justified by His Blood or by His Death, and that while they have no faith. For Christ's Blood that Justified them was shed for them before they had being in themselves, but being the foreknown of God; And what was His Blood shed for or because of ? Why for their sins 1 Cor 15:3

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

And He died for their sins before they had a actual being, so they were Justified before God from all their sins before they had an actual being, and so Justified by His Blood. It does not matter how this Truth is opposed, for the Resurrection of Christ from the dead, after dying for their sins, evidences or confirmed their Justification before God , by His Blood or Death Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

YLT who was delivered up because of our offences, and was raised up because of our being declared righteous.

That's an excellent Translation and agrees with OT scripture Isa 53:11

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

ESV Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities.

This is Justification by His Blood Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

Understand this, one for whom Christ died for in 33 ad, was Justified by His Blood then, though they may not have yet been given Faith to know it or realize it until 1958, when they believed. Their act of believing did not change what was already done and evidenced by Christ's Resurrection, their Justification by the Blood in 33 ad, and to say otherwise is to lie against the Truth, to bear false witness.112